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statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« on: February 06, 2011, 10:38:45 AM »

To run statsRB you must have the following:
A PleoRB
A micro-SD card compatible with PleoRB
A micro-SD card reader for your computer
A Windows computer to run the statsRB.exe program

Full instructions here.
http://www.aibohack.com/pleorb/statsrb.htm

This is version 1. Predicting when PleoRB will evolve to the next stage/age is still rather 'fuzzy'. Please don't rely on the exact numbers, but use it as a tool for guessing how much longer you need to play with your Pleo before it grows up.
The rest of the report (moods, feed level, obedience etc) can be used to figure out specifically what is wrong with a moody or disobedient Pleo.

For those who don't want to look inside their Pleo's brain - don't use it.
'statsRB' is a simple monitoring program. It does not change your PleoRB. Using statsRB is not a replacement for playing with your PleoRB normally.
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2011, 10:43:41 AM »

Woohoo - I've been waiting for this!!  Thanks Pleopet!  ;D

Two questions, is Windows 7 OK to use, please?

And is there a significance to allowing it to sleep for 30 minutes or so?

Please forgive if these are dumb questions!  :D
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2011, 10:44:21 AM »

Great tool!   Thanks so much PleoPet!! :)

LOL Beta is a bit boring though!

Gender: None

Courage: Normal
Temper: Normal
Physical: Normal
Activeness: Normal
Intelligence: Normal
« Last Edit: February 06, 2011, 10:53:21 AM by degers »
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2011, 10:53:24 AM »

> is Windows 7 OK to use
Yes, it should work in all versions of Windows (I use Windows 7)

> And is there a significance to allowing it to sleep for 30 minutes or so?
I took that part out (it was bogus advice).
When Pleo decides to grow up to the next stage is fuzzy. The best thing to do is to use that part as a general guide. For the longer stages (like to Juvenile or to Adult/Mature), check back to make sure you are making progress, the amount of time predicted will change slightly, but that's ok as long as you are making progress.
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2011, 10:57:18 AM »

Oooops - sorry!  Should have checked current version first, though it was more that I was trying to understand the logic!  :-[

Thank you, and for the quick response!  :-*

I shall go off and have a play - thanks again - it's so great to have some of the guesswork taken out!  :D
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2011, 11:13:53 AM »

Thank you so much, this is awesome!

Eva:
Gender: Female
Courage: Normal
Temper: Good
Physical: Normal
Activeness: Low
Intelligence: Normal

Cato:
Gender: None
Courage: High
Temper: Bad (WOW BIG SHOCKER HERE!)
Physical: High
Activeness: High
Intelligence: Normal

Quick gender question, Cato's say's none but also says Pleo is sending out Male pheremones for him, whereas under Eva it says Female for both. Is this because the "genderless" Pleos send out the male signals anyway?

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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2011, 11:20:42 AM »

"Temper: Bad (WOW BIG SHOCKER HERE!)"

OK, well maybe it wasn't ALL just guesswork - some of it will have been patently bloomin' obvious!!  :P
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2011, 11:55:05 AM »

It makes me feel that much closer to him ;)

Do we have any idea on what traits affect what behaviors and how?

I mean, for instance, Cato has been terribly moody and is quite loud when he's angry, but he cheers up pretty quick and becomes quite lovely. He also tends to explore and be extremely active (I feel like I have to babysit him more than 'real' pets, not because he necessarily causes problems but because he gets out of sight so fast). Obviously I'm guessing these deal with temper and activeness. But what about Courage? What exactly does that impact?
« Last Edit: February 06, 2011, 11:57:53 AM by bhobbes »
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2011, 01:39:55 PM »

(MAJOR SPOILERS obviously)

> Is this because the "genderless" Pleos send out the male signals anyway?
Yes, it looks that way (that's why I named it that).
As-Far-As-I-Can-Tell that's the only part directly relying on the gender DNA.

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> Do we have any idea on what traits affect what behaviors and how?
I am still working on generalizing it. Here's a quick overview from what I've found so far.
The DNA value (which never changes, like "Temper"), influences how quickly or slowly your Pleo will change its current attribute (like the current "Mood").

The current "Mood" (shown in the Health Report) changes all the time when you interact with Pleo. Some things you do are positive (making the "Mood" go up), some are negative (making the "Mood" go down).
A bad tempered Pleo is hard to keep in good mood. It will under-react to positive things, and over-react to negative things.
Similarly a good tempered Pleo will over-react to positive things and under-react to negative things.
(I'd say you have to be 3 times as nice to a bad tempered Pleo compared to a good tempered one)

> But what about Courage? (etc)

DNA "Temper" - influences current "Mood"
DNA "Courage" - influences current "Emotion"
DNA "Physical" - influences current "Health" and current "Physical"
DNA "Activeness" - influences current "Activity" - ?? I don't know if this is used ??
DNA "Intelligence" - influences current "Obedience" and current "Skill"



NOTE: Some DNA attributes have similar names to the current properties. I should rename them.
The DNA attributes have 3 values low/normal/high (or in the case of temper bad/normal/good).
The current health properties are a percentage as shown in the Health Report
If the DNA value is low, you will have to work harder to keep the current health number high.

« Last Edit: February 06, 2011, 01:45:09 PM by PleoPet »
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2011, 02:12:45 PM »

Wow, perfect description of Cato's personality - looks like I'll have to be extra nice to him.

Also, will the files the program creates automatically rewrite themselves if you use it again in another Pleo or do you need to delete them before putting it in the other Pleo.

Thank you so much for all the information, it's really interesting!
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2011, 02:29:15 PM »

Ooh can't wait to try this out, thanks Pleopet :)
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2011, 03:30:27 PM »

I'm using this to keep a better eye on Cato's moods haha. Everything is almost 99% but his emotions are staying around 60% and he is sending out a depressed vibe, lol.

Seriously PleoPet you're awesome! 
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2011, 05:08:12 PM »

> LOL Beta is a bit boring though!
The Green ones will probably all be gender neutral.
It looks like the earlier releases may not have extra unique personalities. They have to do something at the factory to randomly? generate the DNA personality. I don't know if the website serial number check is tied into the true settings or just a rough guess.
BTW: My Green RB, shipped in early January from PleoWorld USA does report non-normal values for some of the DNA settings.
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> Also, will the files the program creates automatically rewrite themselves if you use it again in another Pleo or do you need to delete them before putting it in the other Pleo.
Not necessary. It copies the files from inside the PleoRB to the SD card all the time. It will replace the ones on the stick.
It will not alter the values inside Pleo.

'statsRB' is read only. A future tool may allow you to do Brain Surgery (and Genetic Engineering) to tweek the Pleo's settings.
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> Everything is almost 99% but his emotions are staying around 60% and he is sending out a depressed vibe, lol.
You don't need everything at 99%. There is a Normal mood and emotion level (depending on the DNA) that PleoRB will try to stabilize around. 40, 50 or 60% (look for Mood_Normal and Emotion_Normal in the raw properties). I'll add that to the main report for the next version.
The Pheromone feature is just a way of explaining the last IR communication it sent to another Pleo. I don't think it does that all the time. Check back later.

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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2011, 01:22:26 AM »

Well that was kind of fun and a little interesting. :)  Both my guys are Normal for everything.  Kermy3 is 74.4% through stage 2 and Norbit is stage 4 Mature Adult 1% complete.
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2011, 05:43:01 AM »

Belle is pretty boring too (or should I say well-adjusted)  :P:

Gender: None

Courage: Normal
Temper: Normal
Physical: Normal
Activeness: Normal
Intelligence: Normal

Although she'll be relieved about the gender (she can live with sending out male pheromones!).  :D

Interesting that the profile said she was courageous, but doesn't appear to be especially so ..........
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2011, 07:10:19 AM »

The PleoWorld Profile said Cato would be sensitive, strong, and obedient. So sensitive = bad temper (he's seriously a drama queen sometimes, I've just been holding back haha), strong = physical, and obedient = intelligence? Well, he is obedient and listens to me when he's in a great mood (not going into it), but that's hard to maintain sometimes (though the coffee bean/leaf has been a great help, so glad I got it!), so that would fit with the bad temper and what PleoPet said below?

Could just be chance/my over-interpreting but I think I made it fit well lol...
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Re: statsRB - properties discussion (entire thread SPOILER)
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2011, 08:43:53 AM »

Looks like the Pheromone feature is going to be controversial...

> The PleoWorld Profile said...
I couldn't get the PleoWorld Cafe thing to work with my serial #s for some reason.
My guess is sensitive would relate to emotional (which is the poorly named "Courage" DNA). Either fit your Pleo so we'd need more data to draw any conclusions.
But with statsRB it is the exact properties of the running robot. Takes out the guesswork, and some of the fun -- which is why it can be a SPOILER.

re: which plastic toys influence moods
I'll be adding a little list of what toys do what. The manual describes them pretty well, and your common sense. For example: the Coffee Leaf is a major jolt to emotion and speed. Ice and Sugar cane do a smaller bump to emotion (with other side effects).
« Last Edit: February 07, 2011, 08:49:21 AM by PleoPet »
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2011, 02:03:43 PM »

I will try this today I promise! Hmm I wonder if it'll work virtualized in parallels or if I'll need to bootcamp... For any Mac users out there... had to use bootcamp.

DNA Attributes (what PleoRB was born with)


Gender: Female (Hehe oops poor Pleakly ;D)

Courage: Normal
Temper: Normal
Physical: Normal
Activeness: Normal
Intelligence: Normal



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Health Report (how you are treating your dinosaur)


Mood: 83%
Physical: 96%
Emotion: 56%
Health: 50%
Feed: 33% (Oh dear, luckily Pleakly has some tasty new foods :))

Activity: 50%
Obedience: 50%
Skill: 50%
« Last Edit: February 07, 2011, 03:58:46 PM by InmemoryofRomeo »
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2011, 04:28:52 PM »

I gotta get a micro digital card reader some time. I gonna have to stop being lazy and do some reports. I need the money. I so wanna try this out now.
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2011, 10:56:40 AM »

I'm beginning to wonder if there actually ARE any male Pleo rbs, or if there are just Pleo rbs and girly Pleo rbs?  I guess it's possible that only the pheromone signals are actually male?  ???
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2011, 03:12:24 PM »

It appears that Painter is disgustingly normal...

Courage: Normal
Temper: Normal
Physical: Normal
Activeness: Normal
Intelligence: Normal

A little disappointing, but it also means that he will be shaped more evenly as he grows.

Mood: 56%
Physical: 99%
Emotion: 52%
Health: 50%
Feed: 9%

Pleo is in bad shape

Activity: 50%
Obedience: 50%
Skill: 50%

These are his health stats... the feed is not surprising considering the problems he's been having. I'm hoping that this tool will help me diagnose him so that I can get him in better shape.

Edit: Ohh no! His abuse flag is 1! I feel so sorry for him; this must be from him being constantly malnourished. I'm doing my best to keep him fed, but bugs have thwarted my attempts. Is it possible to nurture him back after he's completely debugged?

Can I also get a full report from someone so that I can compare stats in an attempt at diagnosing him.

Edit 2: What are the chances of getting a realtime version of this?
« Last Edit: February 08, 2011, 03:22:49 PM by Magnnus »
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2011, 03:35:51 PM »

If it helps, Magnnus, I have seen reports for two Pleo rb's so far and both had the same abuse flag of 1.  :o

I'll get a copy of Belle's next report and send it to you.
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2011, 04:25:19 PM »

re: lots of all Normal PleoRBs
We need more data. There is also the possibility that the Pleo's properties got corrupted sometime in the past. This should be rare, and it keeps a backup copy, but if there was corruption it will go back to normal DNA (except Gender).

FWIW: my Green RB:

Gender: None

Courage: Normal
Temper: Normal
Physical: High
Activeness: Normal
Intelligence: Low

(and low feed level and abuse flag set)
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Keeping Pleo fed (a high feed level) can be a lot of work.

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> I guess it's possible that only the pheromone signals are actually male?
As-far-as-I-can-tell that's the only place that uses the gender DNA property (at least in the current firmware).
The Blue RBs should be officially male, but as far as the software goes that's the same as a Green PleoRB.

It only changes one specific interaction when two PleoRBs meet, and that only happens some of the time and only when the PleoRBs are in good condition (ie. not tired, injured etc), and old enough.
The two PleoRBs must meet nose to nose (so they can send IR signals between eachother / pheromones).

There are unique interactions when two males meet, when a male and a female meet, and when two females meet.
If you have two PleoRBs, try them out for yourself.
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> ...Ohh no! His abuse flag is 1!
Don't jump to conclusions with the Raw properties. Many are artifacts and not significant. I'm trying to put the significant properties up front in the summary as I learn more.
The abuse flag is set the first time you grab him by the tail (and never changed back to 0). So if anyone doesn't have that flag set, they are missing out on the coolest Pleo animation!

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> ...What are the chances of getting a realtime version of this?
I'm looking to make a standalone personality that will speak the values to you (and eventually let you change the DNA/gender/mood by pressing the right combination of legs).
Not as realtime as you would like, but you won't need a computer (ie. power down PleoRB, stick in SD card, power up, have it tell you how it is feeling in English, power down, remove SD card, power back up)
NOTE: if we had source code to the main PLEOPM personality, this would be very easy to incorporate into the realtime personality.
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2011, 04:33:58 PM »

Well, for what it's worth, Eva's abuse flag is 0, Cato's is also 1. But oh well. Eva (so far, and she's in the adult stage now) has been easy to keep relatively well-fed (around the 90% margin for 3 feedings). Cato even after 8 feeds tends to stick in the 50-70% range. However, Cato's health is higher (and has remained higher) than Eva's.

And they're both sending out "Very Happy Vibes" despite Cato's mood only being in the 76% range. Not saying it means anything, just throwing it out there.

I'll send you both of them Magnnus in case you want to compare multiple reports.
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Re: statsRB - tool for dumping internal statistics from PleoRB
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2011, 06:51:04 PM »

I hope you can get a "stand alone" personality thing going Pleo. That'd be nice.
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