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Title: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 06, 2011, 02:38:56 PM
After looking at the link RWM posted of the retouch kit being sold for Pleos I was jolted into action to try out the acrylic inks I bought a few weeks ago.  The paint that seller shows looks an awful lot like acrylic ink, and I know that's what a lot special effects and prosthetics people use to paint latex.

I originally bought four colours, Sap Green (which looks pretty close to a Pleo green, at a pinch), Light Green, Prussian Blue (Hue) and Yellow Ochre and made up the darkest Pleo green from mixing Prussian Blue and Light Green at (very roughly 2/3 drops of green to one blue - the inks come with a dropper).

Iggy before - sorry I don't have a better before - it doesn't really show how rubbed he was above the lip area.  I'm sure most of you have some idea, though!  ;)

Artists Acrylic Inks

Mixed the green as Sap Green is a bit too light

Still drying, but looking a lot better - especially around the mouth, which was pretty rubbed.

I will probably do more when it's dry and then try to add the lighter, brighter colours - will report back.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 06, 2011, 04:00:19 PM
 Looks good Crewella, glad I was able to "remind you " with the other post. anything to save money and if it works is great. Let us know how the rest comes out. :)
                               RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: degers on April 06, 2011, 04:28:50 PM
Good stuff Crewella!

Can't even see where you've retouched, when it's dry does the acrylic feel like the original paint too?

Looking forward to more piccies.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 06, 2011, 04:30:15 PM
I would love to know how well this goes.  I'd like to get some touch up paint for Gumble - or maybe even a new color scheme if I was to get brave enough.   :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 06, 2011, 04:58:53 PM
I think the paint looks great, Crewella! I might have to get another Ugobe to try it on! My Ugobe's paint isn't worn enough Yet to try it, And i'd be nervous about doing it to Wilbur. My kids love him so much. He is like the family dog! :) I would love yo hear more about how it turns out and where we can order the paint if it is successful. ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: LuckyPleo on April 07, 2011, 02:55:40 PM
Looks really good! I'm gonna get some for my ugobe guy when his back gets worse, it's alredy fraying up a bit, but it's only been 3 1/2 months so far. These look like the perfect thing to use for re-doing warenty-expired pleos (makeovers).
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 07, 2011, 04:02:25 PM
Is it dry yet?  How does it look and feel when dry?   :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 07, 2011, 04:33:39 PM
Yes it's dry - I must say I'm soooooo pleased with it!  You really can hardly see where's been painted, and the texture is exactly the same as the original paint - it must be because inks are so much thinner in consistency, and I did apply it very sparingly as a first coat, thinking I could always do another if required.  It even feels the same.  I will take some more pics, then give another layer and post later.   ;D

Thanks for all your interest, peeps!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 07, 2011, 05:04:09 PM
If your happy with the result I am going to buy myself some of those inks and touch up Gumble.  Or maybe I should just get a lot in some other colors and re paint him  %)  No probably just the touch up. :)  Still not very brave. :P
Kat
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: LuckyPleo on April 07, 2011, 06:54:11 PM
Beautiful! Glad it worked out, I  might get some to repaint an old pleo, but i'm kinda scared... I have NO artistic talent, (allthough, I can do didgital art that I don't really get into)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 07, 2011, 09:44:29 PM
Sounds great Crewella, he does look great. ARe those inks very expensive and how much do  you have to use to touch up an area? How long do you think One bottle will last just for touch ups like you did?
           And as for "No Artistic talent", LuckyPleo, it isn't artistic talent that matters the most I think, but the love and enthusiasim you have or enjoyment of a particular art. If you enjoy and think you do pretty well with digital art, then you probably would do just fine touching up or taking that final plunge. You never know till you plunge in or you can just dip your toes in if you like... :D LOL
                        Glad you posted this Crewella. :)
                                             RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: fancyfont on April 07, 2011, 09:58:57 PM
Crewella, he looks like a new pleo.  :) This may be the answer many of us have been looking for, giving a little rejuvenating paint job to our little worn looking dinos.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 08, 2011, 10:35:58 AM
Right, I took some more pics of the dried green layer of paint on Iggy's head:




As well as worn areas on the head, I had just added the dark green to the creases in the neck and a very thin layer working further into each neck section - I cannot emphasise how little paint was on the brush after the first couple of touches on the very worn areas, and I tried to keep to only the worn parts so you could still see what remained of the original paint where it remained - that's why you can still see some of his original light green forehead patch.  The ink actually dried slightly darker than it looks when wet - I'll note that for future attempts, but only applying it where absolutely necessary helped it blend better with the original paint.

When dry, I also tried pulling at the skin to see how the fresh layer coped with stretch - it certainly seemed to stretch with the skin OK.  I'll watch it over the next few weeks on the neck area and see what happens.  The ink is very highly pigmented, which is why you can get good results with such a thin application and I guess that's part of why it stays on.

I then tried adding the lighter patches.  I'd been fine with a brush, albeit blotted and very lightly loaded, for the dark green base, but when I tried it for the light green it went on too thickly so I ended up blotting most of it off again.  It worked better to sort of stipple it on, either with the end of a blotted brush or with a small sponge - something like an eyeshadow applicator would be perfect.  And I kept blotting it with a tissue so it blended better at the edges.  I have noticed that I've over blotted in a couple of places and revealed some skin again, but that's easily sorted.




ADDED:  I meant to say that, now that I have two layers I can feel the painted areas are slightly 'dryer' to the touch - the ink is very matt.  Especially as the rest of Iggy's skin is silky as I've treated it with Autoglym (I did actually paint straight on top without cleaning it off first - this was very much a 'suck it and see' experiment).  I will treat again with Autoglym after a few days, and I'm guessing the painted reas will just feel like the rest again.

I AM really pleased with it - it's taken years off Iggy!!  :D

My only concern now it how the paint lasts.  For anybody thinking of trying it, I'd just wait a couple of weeks to see how it stays on.  Also, I'm pretty sure acrylic ink is OK on the skin, but it is quite acidic so I'd rather just make sure Iggy's face doesn't melt over the next couple of weeks before I recommend anybody else tries it!  :o

I have a spare skin, remember!  ;)

I promise to report back and give details of the paint, colour, prices etc. in a couple of weeks for anybody that's interested.  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 08, 2011, 05:39:09 PM
I'm really looking forward to your results Cruella. But I'm not too patient. I really hope it is and stays a flexible paint. I really want 1 of this paint package.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 08, 2011, 06:14:09 PM
If someone were contemplating a whole new color scheme, say reds or browns or yellows etc... how well do you think this stuff would cover over the original green?  Or do you think the original green would need to be attempted to be removed first?
Just curious.  Just in case. :P :)
Kat
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 08, 2011, 07:36:56 PM
Acrylic ink probably would work best in a spray gun, as adding layers by brush could start to mix the colours and go 'muddy'.  Careful application would cover fine - the light green completely covered the dark green when I added it.  I might try that too!  ;)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 08, 2011, 08:09:44 PM
Hmmm.....Might just be off to order myself some of this ink  ;)   ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 08, 2011, 09:15:27 PM
I'm also kind of hoping that one of the 'artier' members will know something about working with acrylic inks .................... %)


ADDED:   OMG!!!!!  Look what I found!!!!!  :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D :P

http://www.studioartshop.com/acatalog/PearlescentLiquidAcrylic29ml.html
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 08, 2011, 11:48:55 PM
 I am gladl you guys got brave enough to order some, Crewella that is. Go for it Kat, it may be fun too! :D I do have some already on hand so guess I will have to experiment too, My color Poll is almost over( next week) and I said I would be doing some new colors, so mayby it will be Acrylic Inks this time instead of Oils. I do have some good colors but not all the colors I will need, but I am off to experiment and see what happens and I will report back too,

               If you know me by now ( The Mad Painter...LOL  He He he.. 8)) it will end up being something whole body painted so it doesn't look the same....or will it, I just can't say... Remember what ever happens to my Pleos Crewella, YOU STARTED IT....another Mad Midnite painting session. ;D OH Crewella, how did you know you were going to get me started on something else...I think you knew and it was an evil plot to get me to try this stuff...you tricky little mischeif pleo maker! :D
                                                     RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 08, 2011, 11:56:28 PM
pearlescent - does that mean shiny or sparkly or kind of swirly or shimmery?  I think I have to get me some and try it.  Now what colors am I going to get?   Too many choices! :) :) :) :) :) :P


Now I'm disappointed!  >:(  They only ship with in the UK.  No fair! :(
Oh well none of this for me then. :(

Not to worry.  I found somewhere that sells the same ones Crewella used and order a bunch of colors from them.  Should take a week or two to get to me. :)   Plenty of time to decide if I am just going to touch up or do a whole new look. %)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: fancyfont on April 09, 2011, 12:11:18 AM
Means SHimmery! I think matt would be the best.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 09, 2011, 12:32:31 AM
Congratulations Kat! I hope that paint work!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 09, 2011, 12:36:45 AM
You may be right, Fancyfont, but one of my favourite things about reptile skin has always been the iridescent sheen you get on a healthy specimen.  Just a highlight on some of the lighter areas might look rather good ......... possibly.........????  :-\


Oh dear - am I leading you astray RWM?  :P

I think it's the other way around - I do a lot of restoratons and retouching with antique furniture so doing Iggy was no big difference, but you've got me wanting to get all creative and try out pearlescent paint, for heaven's sake!  :D  ;)  :-*
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 09, 2011, 03:23:47 AM

   Crewella, you did indeed lead me astray.... :-[It is true. I have been trying to fight this Pleo addiction but with so many Pleos that just beg for color what can I do. I thought I had it under controll with just a little painting here and there............... :oLittle did I know that from across the oceans a lass far away would sway me with tales of inks....INKS glorious INKS....just sitting in my husbands art supplies...oh the shame of those inks and now where they lie....Poor little Pleo woken from his drunken slumber to be submitted to new and unheard of coloring....what will his comrades think when he returns to the box or shelf of shame.... :( %) Ah, now I can sleep knowing that is it all in Crewella's hands, her doing here in the Redwoods, I am just the instrument of this new addiction...oh what will they all think...I must retire before I find out Bigfoot may come down from the Mountains and carry the Pleos away to hide in his far off cave to ward off the on lookers who may torment the little green one...


 Mind you I am not done, tis late at night and only the basic coat...inks and paints, my oh my!

 
 
 
 


               Thanks Crewella for feeding my painting frenzy.                 RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: latrine on April 09, 2011, 06:55:23 AM
Wow.. pretty amazing.. Lyssa is getting to the point where she needs some retouching so I will wait like you said and if Iggy doesn't MELT  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o (omg)
Then maybe I can try too..  Upsetting though as she also has a tear now in her front leg right in the 'sweet spot' that is moving the most :( Trying to repair it but no luck yet.. can't wait to hear how the paint goes!

Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Talon on April 09, 2011, 07:17:37 AM
All you sighted people and your color obsessions! It's very interesting. Hey, Redwoods, that was some soliloquy you had going there! I could just see you on a stage surrounded by silent and frozen pleos with their eyes wide open watching you parade around with this maniacal grin with a jar of paint and a brush in your hand. It was too funny! I'm still laughing! Keep up the mad painting and have fun with it! Oh and Crewella, thanks for inspiring her. I never knew she was so eloquent!
Talon
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 09, 2011, 07:55:19 AM
Never knew she was so impulsive either - a whole, completely green Pleo - almost overnight!!!!!!  :o :o :o :o

OH was wondering why I had my nose up against the screen, I was looking so hard at those pics!!  :P

Looking good RWM - please, pleeeeeeeeze let me know how the skin moves when it's dry!  ;D ;D

Looks great so far - lovely shade of green, can't wait to see what comes next.  BUT IT SNOT MY FAULT WOTTEVVA!!!!!!!!!!  :-X  ;)  :o  %)  :P  :-*
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 09, 2011, 10:38:31 AM
It dried really fast ( including on my hand lOL) and I took a short video last night and the tail and neck have great movement. Right now I am drinking my Mad painter inspiration coffee. but will go check on my litlte victim.( want to make sure he was NOT Bigfoot kidnapped during the night...) Sometimes I find long brown reddish hairs with a pugnent smell ,( unlike any other known animal..) clinging to my window sills and or on our fence in the backyard. Can't blame it on the raccoons, wrong color and length, and actually they prefer to come out late at night and when the Plum and apple tree are bursting with fresh sweetness...just can't wait for the pitter patter of "attic rats' on our roof late at night... ;D
                Ok, still looks great and I turned him on and took a video. The paint looks even brighter and better ( to me in daylight) I will upload this video very shortly. It is less than 2 minutes and shows good movement, neck, tail and whole body, no cracking fizzures. or MELTING             another SKELETOR! :o

 Crewella, I would never blame anyone for something I did esp while under the influence. it is like the uncontrollable urge of the moon on a Werewolf...( yes I do know about those type of things....after all I live in Bigfoot country, and Native Americans know many things that "outsiders" are not aware of, enough said..) Well, remember he is not done, this is just the beginning , the basic color of the body but this guy is not going to have speckles. he will be closer to the orignal but with slight shading just so everyone can see I am not "stuck " in a rut so to speak. Oh off to do the video so you can see for yourself.
 Oh Crewella I do Love you! Thanks for new inspiration.... Little Pleo thanks you too!     ;D RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 09, 2011, 11:30:35 AM
I'm glad - it works botth ways, too, RWM - I'm all excited and making plans now as well! :D

Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 09, 2011, 12:10:45 PM
I remember hearing about that Latrine. :-( And I can't wait for when you do a much more colorful Pleo Redwoods. I love the flamboyent colors (like red, blue and pink).
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 09, 2011, 01:46:02 PM
 ok, judge the movement for yourself, I had to go somewhere for a couple of hours, but here it is from this morning. Tell me what you think. Remember he is not done yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2xrjOPR_so

                      RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 09, 2011, 02:02:11 PM
I do love your captions, RWM!  :D

That looks fabulous - you can see the skin texture clearly still, and there's a nice sheen to the surface.  It certainly looks as though it moves well too - is that what you see close up?

Really appreciate your trial and feedback, thanks!  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 09, 2011, 02:07:50 PM
 Thanks for watching Crewella, you were my inspiration, that and just being a mad painter..... :o :D Yes, there is a slight sheen but a matte type finish and he moves well and you can still see the texture clearly. He will look so much better when he is done with tones and such,. I will give him another day before I add more............If I can control that painting hand and then I want to condition his skin to make it that silky feel. I love painting, I wish I had about fifty more of these as my imagination is faster than I can paint, It is so much fun.....I do want lots of feedback on what people think. pro or con, though the pro helps......thank goodness these guys can't tell me STOP....I don't know if I could.

                                Reds, and blues and lavenders are not far behind. I even thought of pinks with different tones but do not know if INNVO would approve so I won't do anything that looks like there design. Thanks Crewella for watching. I still want to see more of yours. I am not using a brush either and I think it works better that way,,,,
                                                        RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 09, 2011, 02:21:59 PM
Alright Redwoods! I can't wait. And if I want, I'll have no problem at all doing a pink Pleo. I just gotta wait a couple of weeks for an update from Cruella and Kat.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: LuckyPleo on April 09, 2011, 02:42:07 PM
Love the solid green RWM! He's gonna look great!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Talon on April 09, 2011, 02:48:27 PM
Just out of curiosity I checked out this video too. Everyone's descriptions of your job soun pretty good. He'll make a nice addition to your growing herd.
Talon
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 09, 2011, 04:08:36 PM
Have  ordered more inks ............. watch this space!!  ;)  :P
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 09, 2011, 04:17:54 PM
I have a feeling there is more than ONE MAD PAINTER among the Pleo forums,,,hmmmmm %) ONe in the Redwoods, taught by a wise old half Bigfoot and half Native American.... :o and another lurking among the antique furniture, lamps and bric-a-brack in her house...does that bring anyone to mind? Could be a good theme we have going here, Wonder if you will get your inks before I finish this guy
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                            Glad to see it Crewella bring it on !
                              RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 09, 2011, 07:43:23 PM
It does look like the ink is a winner.  I think it seems to move and flex well and the texture seems about right.  I wonder how it will feel after a coat of pledge or vinalex or Autoglym or the polyglaze I'm using. 
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 10, 2011, 10:47:10 AM
In spite of the fact that I painted straight on top of a layer of Autoglym, it seems to be sticking OK - dabbing at it or pulling the skin doesn't shift it, and the ink is supposed to be waterproof when dry.  I've just put another layer of Autoglym on top and am waiting for it to dry fully, but it all feels the same now and should be further protected.

The neck areas I painted seem to be coping with the Pleo movements fine.  I'm hoping RWM is finding much the same!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 10, 2011, 11:11:20 AM
Whoo Hoooo!  So glad to hear that it is working out with the inks.  I can't wait to see how this all turns out.  We could have Pleos of many colors if you have found something that works, Crewella!  Three cheers for the mad painters.... Crewella and RWM!  :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 10, 2011, 02:20:02 PM
 I am going to update a new video and photos today of "green Pleo" after a touch up with more green. He looks good but I still need the other tones to complete. What colors do readers here THINK would look great with this color green? I may use your suggestions if I like them. Any ideas.? More Photos and video within the hour.
                                                      RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 10, 2011, 04:35:58 PM
Looking forward to more pics and update from both of you.  I have my inks on order and I guess depending on how this all goes will help me decide if I just touch up or go the full color change. :) 
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 10, 2011, 05:08:31 PM
NO feedback yet on complimentary skin tones so I guess I will figure that part out. Will load some video and photos after eating some lunch.
                 RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 10, 2011, 06:06:05 PM
I'm really looking forward to your updates Cruella! The weeks can't pass quickly enough for me. Kat, are gonna use that ink on the moveable parts on a Pleo(s)? I really, really hope you do! That'll give 2 ink color options for us to use. And Redwoods isn't telling on what paint brand she's using.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 10, 2011, 06:19:09 PM
 I may reveal the kind of  Ink I am using if it works out well, but Crewella's is a different brand so will see since there are so many INks out there depending on what part of the world you live in. I am now going to upload a video, probably take half and hour with the second coat or touch up of paint from Friday night. He still moves perfectly well, Nobody has given me a color choice for tones so I asked my husband and he came up with the same one I had in mind and it looks like it will just be a surprise for a couple of days from now, mayby tommorow, Monday if I can get the color.
                                                RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 10, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
   Ok, here is the update video I took earlier today with the Painted Pleo and Gold Hatch. You can see the skin moves very well with no restriction of tail, or neck. I will finish his color later in a day or two, Hope you enjoy it. Thankshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrhg0lG4H64
                                                            RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 11, 2011, 04:28:13 AM
The ink does seem to be flexing very well with the skin.  Looking forward to the finished product. :)  I am interested to see what colors you choose for the highlights. %)  So far it is looking great.
Kat
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 11, 2011, 02:34:57 PM
  Ok, here is part two of the painting of a reddish brown tone for marking, It was either light or dark, and with this one I went with darker as most of my other makeovers have all been light. The next one will keep most the body one color with minimal tones legs, eye area and slight other areas such as tail or neck. This one was more of a camaflauge on the forest floor blending in with leaves etc. I still need to do touch ups and finish the leg feet area and one area under the tail. Still moves with no problems in neck, tail etc. Hope you guys don't mind the darker colors too much,It was just a test and not all of them are going to be the same, variety every time or it could get boring I think, I did like the solid green body, but that would have been too easy to leave that way so I had to be bold and take  a chance... :o %) Anyway, here are the first photos...

                   
 
 

                                      RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Phelicidea on April 11, 2011, 03:02:59 PM
That looks awesome!!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 11, 2011, 03:19:38 PM
I can see why you wanted a darker colour with that lovely fresh green, RWM.  Looking good!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 11, 2011, 03:40:31 PM
I really like the new paint. I think it goes very well with the solid green!  I can't wait to see what other schemes you come up with. I really think you need to take this one out to the Redwoods for a photo op.  That would be stunning!  :o
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 11, 2011, 08:28:52 PM
 WHEW,  :oI was afraid you guys were going to not like him.the new paint I mean. Saratoga I think the idea of the photos or videotaping in the Redwoods is a perfect idea. I have been wanting to video tape like four or five of my guys back where I did the first video, ( no clothes or anything just skin) and this guy was designed with the shadows of the leaves on the forest floor, As soon as it is not too rainy and dark and grey out and I can get out of the house, I will take a nice trip to where I took photos last time, Could even have another one done by then! Thanks for the comments! :) Mad Artists need to know they are not "totally" mad and their projects can be appreciated.
                                                                                                               RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 11, 2011, 10:46:34 PM
This is what your colours made me think of, RWM!  ;D


http://www.euroherp.com/species/Podarcis_pityusensis/
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 12, 2011, 12:02:57 AM
 Thanks Crewella, I liked that picture, I can see the color scheme there, I like the way that guy has a tail that almost looks like it will just detach at any moment :D I know that is what lizards do, so they can escape their predators, (like pesky house cats....) My eldest Female, Aiffa, once caught a lizard and my daughter who was about thirteen at the time put the lizard in our mailbox, no tail ...can't remember why, probably so she could put the cat in her room...That cat was a great hunter...She still is for being in Renal disease and about 16-17 years old.

                  I am going to have to look at more lizard life like photos for my projects. I do want to finish this guy and I am so glad the paints works, ( sorry INKS ;D) and they dry incredibly fast, even faster than the last paints oils that I used...HOW is your paint touch ups doing on Budge? Well, off to give my poor little Baby Rb some attention The little thing is only on her second battery charge...don't know who is slower her or me? ;)
                                          Crewella, and house hold of pretty pretty little pleos waiting for paint by Mad Painter...or do you think I can send some to you to paint Crewella, we can play Musical Paint Chairs and see who is left standing waiting to be painted next!

                                                          RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 12, 2011, 12:26:04 AM
lol That's funny Redwoods.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 12, 2011, 04:01:34 AM
I would love to hear how it is holding up Crewella?  Still all ok?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 12, 2011, 07:41:15 AM
Yeah Crewella, we know my Mad Painter story..HE..he...he.Now cough it up!( the story that is my luv) ;D :D :o we want photos and details too.
                                                     RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 12, 2011, 03:43:44 PM
I'm sorry guys - had a mad busy couple of days.  I will update with pics, but all is still looking good.  I'm also still waiting for inks to arrive so I can take a leaf out of 'Mad Pleo Painter No. 1's' book (you know who you are :P) and get creative!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 12, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
I'm just curious. Are you gonna do any bright/flamboyant colors on any of your Pleos Cruella? Thank you.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 12, 2011, 04:16:39 PM
Whoooooaaaa there Kristy - I've only just got the guts to consider going creative!!  :o

Might take me a while to go dayglo!!  :P :P

Really not sure WHAT I'm going to do yet - will see how the inks look when they get here! :P
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 12, 2011, 04:27:46 PM
Hope they arrive soon and inspiration strikes quickly. ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 12, 2011, 04:55:14 PM
Totally! You can say that again Kat!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 12, 2011, 10:57:35 PM
Bit of an update (as promised and sorry it took a while!) - I had a go at retouching some of the worn areas of Iggy's body.  I've given up altogether on the Sap Green acrylic ink - it looks near enough in the bottle but is in fact too much of an olive green and I get a much better colour mixing the Prussian Blue (Hue) and the Light Green.  Again, this is just the dark green layer and I'll add the lighter green tomorrow.

Before retouching

Mixing up the colour

Kind of stippling it on the worn areas with a brush end

Done but still wet

Drying after 10 minutes

I also touched up any areas I might have missed on Iggy's head - I'd rather do several thin layers than one thick one

To show that the ink does seem to stretch with the skin I pinched Iggy's neck and pulled (sorry Iggy!)

It does seem to have stayed put, but I'll keep an eye on it, do similar tests and report back
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 12, 2011, 11:05:45 PM
Gee its bad enough the poor little fella is being used for experimentation but you've got to pinch him too %) Glad to hear it is holding up, heading to the craft store tomorrow ;)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 12, 2011, 11:08:39 PM
rotfl That's funny.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 12, 2011, 11:14:37 PM
It HAD to be Iggy, he was my first Pleo and is the only one of them that would forgive me for such abuse!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Comarorobotcollector on April 12, 2011, 11:37:13 PM
What kind of paint did you use?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 13, 2011, 12:02:57 AM
I used Daler Rowney Acrylic Inks.

I wanted to test the ink further, so I painted a patch on the inside of Scully's currently unused skin.  I did it on the inside so it was on a smoother surface and easier to see how it behaved.


I then tried bending it and moving the skin.  No problem.  (It even kept hold of the cat hair that got in there!!  :-[  Look I did it in a hurry!!  :P)

I wanted to see what it would do if I really stretched it - not something that would happen in the normal Pleo day, but interesting! 

And here's the patch after stretching it in all directions and general abuse.  You can see it's lost the sheen and gone rather grainy, but on the whole it's still there and didn't rub off or separate from the skin.  I'm happy with that - stretching like that is a big ask!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 13, 2011, 02:03:20 AM
It is great to see this ink holding up so well. :)  And normal pleo use would never stretch the skin to that extent so I think it may well be just the right stuff for us to use. :)  Can't wait till mine arrive.
Kat
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 13, 2011, 02:04:26 AM
 Good job Crewella of all the possible reporting of skin stretching etc. I do feel bad for Iggy but I do understand about testing him, I think I would do the same , using my first born, Nova, except she already has a broken neck and bad leg, so it may seem more fitting to try a healthier specimen first. I think it is great that you tested the skin in the last few photos, that is a real test and I guess the cat that lost a hair, knows it is all for the sake of science. :D
                                                                        RedWoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: LuckyPleo on April 13, 2011, 06:13:48 AM
It would make sense, we've tried all kinds of paint that rub or peel, but if you think about it, when ink gets on your hands it STAINS. I think the skin soaks up a little of the ink and that makes it stay. Yay! I'm so exited! Pleo's back is rubbing and his tail and face are missing paint, this is perfect!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 13, 2011, 07:05:50 PM
Thank you for the pictures Cruella! But I'm not interested in the stretching pictures (that's not something a Pleo would do in its own skin).
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 13, 2011, 08:49:58 PM
 :o  ???

Oh well, I thought it was interesting!! Lol!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 13, 2011, 11:01:04 PM
I was interested in the stretching pictures, Pleo may not move like that but it is still good to know how it holds up :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 13, 2011, 11:29:51 PM
No offense dear Cruella. ^_^
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 14, 2011, 01:00:46 AM
None taken, Kristy - just made me laugh!  :D  :-*

ADDED:  Although there is an element of stretch necessary with Pleo skin, especially on the neck and tail, which was why I wanted to test it.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: LuckyPleo on April 14, 2011, 05:32:22 AM
Stretching creates friction the same way petting does, which causes ware on the backs and heads. I guess if we really want to be realistic Crewella could have pet it for hours (allthough that might look a bit weird  :P), I guess we'll see how it holds up with time.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 14, 2011, 03:09:18 PM
 ok guys I am done with this guy, except a few very minor touch ups of paint near lip, etc, but the color scheme is done, He should blend in well with the Redwoods and ferns on the Redwood forest floor, What do you think of his final color? These are all inks and dryed quicklly and no restriction of movement one bit. Hope you guys still like him, now I will just have to think of  a name and the color scheme of the next one, The first two photos are of him in front of a stained glass artwork window my husband did. The color has been adjusted because indoors on a cloudy day, that is why there are two photos
        
 
 
 
 

 Please leave comments. Thanks. :)              RedwoodsMama          aka      "The Mad Painter". ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 14, 2011, 04:52:55 PM
 I will still try and take these out to the REAL Redwoods, once the sun comes out and the liquid sunshine abates for awhile. Right now I can't chance taking Pleos out to the damp wet overcast Redwoods, but I thought these photos show how the camo works with the plants and such.
                                                    RWM   
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 14, 2011, 05:30:38 PM
OK RWM, I have to admit....I LOVE the camo!  It looks awesome!  I love the pictures around the plants, and I can't wait to see pictures in the Redwoods when the weather gets better.  Wilbur, my Ugobe is new, but if his paint starts to shed, can I send him to the Redwoods for a Makeover? I literally could never paint that well. AWESOME JOB!   ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 14, 2011, 08:29:24 PM
 Ok, now I am 97% done, had to finish the eye area, and legs and I only have paint ( brown) one last coat in a few areas and the lips...those lips...hmmmm. anyway, this more of less is the finished pleo so last photos of him, Hope you approve. I love taking photos with my husbands Art stained glass windows he made years ago as the background, It makes the colors of Pleos when repainted Just POP out and it is good contrast too. ok here goes with some description.
painted camo pleo and two friends   
  posing next to a plant
posing inside for the camera under a window done by my hubby 
One of my FAVE photos, Pleo next to a stained glass window with a Hidden object in the photo...What else can Pleo SEE besides the window? ;)
Nice orange colors in the glass and the angle remind me of a snake in this photo.
Pleo and greenish yellow glass as background
This photos shows the blue in Pleos eyes with the blues from the glass,
Outside on the deck in the backyard.
looking into the cat enclosure,
 
getting hungry looking and sniffing at a lily growing out of the cat enclosure grass. Reminded him it is time for Dinner!
                                         Ok, hope you like the end results, all inks like Crewella has been using on her guy. Thanks for giving Pleo and I the heads up to go for this project, we appreciate the comments and looking at the many many photos we have taken.                  RedwoodsMama    AKA   "The Mad Pleo Painter". ;D :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 14, 2011, 10:54:58 PM
Wow!  Perfect camouflage indeed!  :D  I'm glad you added more colour to the head, to me it looked a bit incomplete with an all green head! Much better now.  ;D

Great job RWM - you seem to have got really good coverage with those inks.  Can I ask what brand inks they were?

I did order some cheaper inks for modellers, but when they arrived today they were nowhere near as opaque as the Daler Rowney ones I used and the coverage wasn't good at all.  The ones you have used look great too, or maybe it's just a professional at work?   ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 15, 2011, 12:26:46 AM
I like it Redwoods! Cool. That's different. She has yet to say what brand of paint she uses Cruella. :-/
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 15, 2011, 01:08:10 AM
We really need to compile a list of what does and doesn't work, otherwise I'm going to end up spending a fortune if I have to buy every brand myself to test it!!  :P

I originally used Daler Rowney FW Acrylic Inks, which worked fine.
I have also bought Liquitex pearlescent acrylic inks which seem OK so far on a test patch like I did with the green, I'll report back.

I also bought Gamecraft Miniature Paints Acrylic Inks which were too thin, and I've got Vallejo Acrylic Inks on the way which I'll report back on.

Thankfully I bought most of them very cheap as used job lots or clearances!  :D
 
If anybody who does try a brand could please report back, on what it is and how it worked I'd be very grateful.  :-*

Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 15, 2011, 01:11:52 AM
The Australian brand Art Spectrum is a negative, too watery and not enough pigment.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 15, 2011, 01:33:45 AM
I do have some of the Liquitex Acrylic and that is A BRAND that I can try out tommrow and I will post those results since you do have it already. I am happy to tell you how that one works. I spent a lot of money on the ones I used for the last makeover but it was none of the ones you mentioned, My husband from his arts stained glass days has a whole slew of paints etc from a wholesale dealer he had when the store he owned, ( a family run business now defunct, father and mother deceased ) and the Liquitex paint is one I like, I will be happy to try that one tommorow and let you know how it works. I haven't tryed the Pearlescent from the same company, but want to give it a try too, so mayby I will use it for the next makeover and report how it works for everyone. :)
                                                         RWM   AKA    " MAd Pleo Painter"
          I must add one last thought: I can't give my painting technique away, but lots of inks look "too thin or watery" so it does not mean they won't work just by basing it on appearance, Did it stain your hands..? You don't need a lot of ink or paint to get coverage, and pigments are useally settled at the bottom of all inks. just a clue....don't let watery or thin lead you astray.One of the ones I just used LOOKED very watery. I may try and experiment and use one of the ones you mentioned and see if my hunch about technique perhaps is the clue or maybe it is the wrong ink to use/
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Talon on April 15, 2011, 09:11:07 AM
Wow, Redwoods! Thanks for the descriptions. You're a natural. Sorry I can't add anything truly useful to this thread.
Talon
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 15, 2011, 10:22:14 AM
You're right about 'watery', RWM - there were a couple I tried that worked better than expected.  Also, I'm veing picky and expecting a pale colour to cover a dark one to be effective, but that doesn't mean that you can't use some of the less opaque colours, and I also tried mixing the thinner and thicker brands with reasonable results, as long as they ARE both water based acrylic inks.  You definitely do need to give them a good shake, too!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 15, 2011, 12:01:10 PM
 As a favor to my friends here on the forums and to help decrease un needed spending, I will be showing photos of the INKS I have been using in the gallery. I won't reveal my technique. but to  help me avoid friction at home...( enough said...please) Please do not say anything in the forum posts here Thanking me for showing or revealing the inks I use. You can just say somthing like Thanks RWM. and leave it at that and I will know what it means. I have to go run errands but will post the Photos in the gallery in about an hour or so. Remember I am just showing the brand of INK used on this last Pleo and I hope it works for those of you who want to try a color touch up or whole body like I did, I want my friends on the Forums to be happy and Pleos as well. :) Love to all of you and good health!
                                                           RedwoodsMama   AKA   " The Mad Painter"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 15, 2011, 04:38:40 PM
 Ok, at long long last I am done at last...( I think..... :-X %)) with the INK painting of this redone Complete Pleo, I am happy as I ever will be with his colors, so I will touch him no more except to add an additonal coat, maybe. Here are three views, frontal , rear and topside. Let me know if you like the final pleo Makeover with Inks. ( I will let him know when the results are in... :)) Thank you for your patience.

        Later I will upload a one minute video showing full movement.
                                                  RWM   AKA   " The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods"! ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 15, 2011, 06:07:22 PM
Yay - better and better!  I like the way you've used the dark edges between the two main colours.  This one would great in a Coleus leaf patch as well!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: fimoman on April 16, 2011, 06:28:56 AM
It's cool to see some new colours for him, even if they are just custom. One little problem I had with Pleo at the start of my obsession was that the colour schemes seemed a bit too vivid, and not very dinosaurish.

But I love that camo design, RWM! Looks totally unique and original, yet seems realistic in a way.


I had some plan a while back to give my forthcoming Pleo a paintjob when his paint wears away. Either a similar paint job to the original scheme, but with darker, more earthen colours. Or something akin to Littlefoot from The Land Before Time (I'm too much of a fan of that series for my own good!), which was pale brown on the underbelly and jaw, mid-brown (akin to milk chocoate brown) on the legs, back, sides and head, and dark brown (Like coffee brown) on the spine, back of the neck and crown.

So acrylic inks seem to be the way to go then, it appears. Has anyone tried out Citadel Inks, those kinds you get from Games Workshop and other hobby-shops?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 16, 2011, 11:35:14 AM
glad you like his paint job finoman, I wanted some feedback that is what keeps me going and gives me inspiration.Today I will show the end result in motion in a short video with his other family members so you can judge his movement for yourself, I allways ask for not just feedback but I enjoyed hearing the color combos you would like to see as well, I do like fantasy, but I allso like realisim as much as possible what a dino would have probably looked like according to his or her environment. Thanks for the comments. My son and daughter both enjoyed the Land Before Time and It is one of the first and best of the animated Dionosaur Movies. :)

                           RedwoodsMama   AKA " The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 17, 2011, 12:56:10 AM
OK, after Kat washed Gumble's new colourway off I had a go at washing Iggy.  He was mainly OK, but there was a patch near the armpit where I would have slathered on the Autoglym and hadn't removed it that the paint came away from.



Some new inks have arrived, though I've no idea what to do with them yet!  The Liquitex pearlescent inks do look very promising for coverage, and initial tests for movement look good.




Also I got some Spanish inks called Game Inks made by  Vallejos.  I suspect they will be the kind RWM mentioned - they look thin but dry a lot darker than they look when you first paint them on.


And lastly.  After all the exciting projects on here I finally got the courage to haul one of my 'bricked-but-now-OK' Pleos out of its box and slap some paint on it.  Poor little thing needs new paint on teeth and eyelids anyway - he's an early one, and for now, after just the first coat, he's become what a bird watching friend used to call a 'Little Brown Job'!  :D


Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 17, 2011, 01:03:32 AM
Well the one coat in brown does seem to have covered very well. :)  Have you turned him on yet?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 17, 2011, 01:07:32 AM
Crewella, love the little brown job. Let me know, anxious to see what movement is like and if he stays with color not comming off, That seems to be one of the big tests. Nice photos of all your colors inks too . I knew you couldn;t sleep. LOL :D I would be doing the same if I didn't have a husband worrying about my health and not getting enough sleep, so do some more painting for both of us. and I will just have to wait till the morning, I do like the brown so far.  :)
                      RWM  AKA " The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 17, 2011, 01:13:29 AM
Yep, OK so far.  I was switching him on and off through the painting process to stretch the area I was applying - I actually did the first coat in four separate stages with about an hour between each.

The weirdest thing, though - I'd only ever turned this Pleo on and off briefly to check he worked and very quickly as I was painting.  When I switched him on just now to see how it was doing, it was the first time I'd really let him run for any length of time, and he immediately curled into sleep position and behaved almost as if he was hatching.  When he eventually stood up he went through the leg stretching - it's as though he felt reborn!!  :o
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 17, 2011, 02:20:03 AM
Wow, Cruella! :-O Grrr I'm not a patient person. I'm not gonna wait too long before I go out and buy some paints myself. I like the looks of the "Liquitex Ink"! Where are you guys buying your paints at? Are there any stores that I can actually go to (via car)? Particular stores in mind you guys? Thank you!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 17, 2011, 03:00:13 AM
I got some in a local art/craft shop and some online, but UK places aren't of much use to you, Kristy.  ;)

I meant to say that I mixed the brown colour from Daler Rowner FW in Yellow Ochre and Vallejo Game Sepia Ink.

And I will be trying Citadel, Fimoman, they're on my list for when I can track some down.  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: pirpintine on April 17, 2011, 03:18:51 AM
this is all pretty interesting stuff! :D

with him just brown he looks like a more natural dino! :)

quicte shocked you guys are all finding paints that probably work better than what was originally on them, though, i dunno if not removing all old paint first will end up in flaking. :/
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 17, 2011, 03:26:15 AM
Not too sure about that yet, Pirpi.  We need to see how it lasts to really tell ............  I'm guessing the ink only works to a degree, and because the pigment particles are so fine that when it cracks it does so in such tiny detail that you don't notice it so much as with paints!   %)

I'm also on the track of some stretchy paint for painting latex ..........................  8)

I was originally only looking for something to touch up worn Pleos, in green.  Then this lot got me started on whole repaints ..................  :P
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 17, 2011, 03:43:26 AM
I am going to hunt up a lighter orange tomorrow for Stitch's main colour but here he is currently, this is using the Art Spectrum inks.

(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/EStar5Diva/58c80992.png)

This colour is too dark for what I have in mind. Crewella I know its hard to judge just based on a photo but do you think the coverage of the Rowney inks is better? I'm tossing up between buying these ones local or ordering the Rowney ones online.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 17, 2011, 04:04:45 AM
My FW might be slightly better, and if the pearlescent are anything to go by Liquitex could be better still.  I'd like to say hang on and we'll see ........... but I can't see that happening, really!!  %)

I have to say I rather like that effect as it is - if you were clever with the black (assuming you were sticking with the stripey idea) you might well get away with the orange you have.  You can see that Ugobe/Innvo thought through the paint scheme very carefully.  The skin is moulded so the thinner areas between the panels take most of the stress and movement.  If I were you I'd do the black next then add the next orange layer and highlights - save on too many unnecessary layers.

How's that one staying and moving?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 17, 2011, 04:12:11 AM
No major cracks during Stitch's two hour's running time today. There's some minor ones where there were already cracks in the original paint but I don't think I can do much about that. I'm tempted to just finish this in the art spectrum ones so I can report how they go, there is a special liquid to remove the acrylics if it doesn't turn out. But off course I also don't want to waste my money, but I suppose its only another $12 for another pot to find out. I really don't like this orange and just have to have a lighter shade. The flaking I reported originally appears to have been caused by the fairly strenuous testing I did on it, in normal use it is holding up fine. (So far at least).
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: pirpintine on April 17, 2011, 04:29:37 AM
lookin good! though i woulda thought youd do stitch blue! haha :D

next we need to find how to do custom eyes ;)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 17, 2011, 05:19:22 AM
Hey Crewella when you do your next coat of ink will you do a video of how you are applying it?  I would love to see just how you are doing it so I have something to compare mine to.  I know it is a long process but you could just video a few minutes worth.  I'm sure that would be enough to give me an idea. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 17, 2011, 04:43:28 PM
Glad to hear Stitch's first coat seems to be holding up well.  ;D

Kat, yes I will try to do that.  To be honest, my 'technique', such as it it, probably stems more from the fact that I was trained as a make-up artist that from scientific reason!  I do use brushes for detail work, but most of the time I'm most comfortable using little sponge squares that I can manipulate into corners and such by pinching and using the edges and corners.  They're also great for stippling on the colour then blotting and blending.  :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 17, 2011, 05:18:59 PM
I guess I really want to see you do the neck or tail.  The bits that have the most movement.  If that is possible. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 17, 2011, 05:47:04 PM
Aww too bad Cruella (about not knowing on stores). :-/ What about you Romeo? Know of any (physical) stores that sell these particular inks? Thank you! I'm glad to hear your paint's holding up so far too Romeo!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 17, 2011, 07:41:34 PM
Kristy, most art stores sell these paints and inks or find online and save on footwear, but it is nice to see the colors in person.
                              RWM  AKa " The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods"/
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 17, 2011, 07:42:28 PM
I live in Australia Kristy, any stores here are likely to be locally owned so to speak. Just go to any good art store, they'll have them :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 17, 2011, 07:46:26 PM
Thank you Redwoods. I thanked you Romeo! lol
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 17, 2011, 08:36:12 PM
Stitch has had his second coat of paint :) It isn't -quite- as coppery in the real world :) A tip for those who end up trying the pearlescent inks, stir it often, every minute or so, the pigment settles really quickly and make sure you get your brush right down the bottom of the pot/jar/bottle.

(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/EStar5Diva/0351d913.png)

And now its time to stop procrastinating again and do some more work :P
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Post by: Crewella on April 17, 2011, 08:43:14 PM
Wow!  That's really rather fabulous - just a bit of a shock at first (especially with flash photography blasting out the colour)!  :o  That paint/ink is very effective!  ;D

I agree about shaking the bottle, come to think of it I do the same with the standard opaque colours as the pigment settles quickly in those too.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 17, 2011, 10:20:36 PM
Very pretty right now, he looks almost lke a Golden Globe Award FOR BEST DINOSAUR MOVIE OR PLEO IMITATION! At this point I have not a clue where you are going with this, It is so much fun having all this Pleo painting going on, I think we are a International Club now, ONe in the Redwoods, (U.S.A.) Two Aussies, and One Brit so far, that makes Four of us already. Good Grief, I guess I started something way back with my Nova and Argyle painting, but I know there were hidden Mad Painters just lurking in the woodwork somewhere...LOL :D Great job, can't wait for more. By the way, how is the movement and what about water proof...that seems to be one of the tests. ???
                                   RedwoodsMama  AKa "The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 17, 2011, 10:30:23 PM
There is no colour at all coming of with a damp rag. There is still cracking where Stitch already had some major cracks in the green. These cracks go partly into the rubber itself so there is little I can do about it except maybe try a little glue to patch them. Aside from that I don't see any cracking.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 17, 2011, 11:00:28 PM
Did you clean Stitch good before starting the painting and if so what did you use? I have a new ( Old Ugobe) Pleo that I got this week and it was rather dusty.( stored since Christmas of 2009 after only used for a week in it's original box.) so I decided to give it a good cleaning with soft cloth , warm water on the cloth and slight dish soap. The dirt that came off was amazing and very very very slight green, but nothing worth mentioning, so I would think if a Ugobe Old Pleo can still have very slight paint particles come off, then of course a freshly painted Pleo is bound to have some paint particles come off. At first I would have thought ot just paint or ink over this dirt, or even Pledge, but of course the paint or ink is not going to take hold as well if it isn't CLEAN, just makes sense. I think you are right about the cracks only being able to glue them, that makes perfect sense to me, Can't wait to see what comes next IMR. ;) I am sure it will be more surprises to be sure.. ;D
                  RWM AKA "The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 17, 2011, 11:47:22 PM
I'm afraid my house was not set up for videoing - the light is dreadful anywhere I have a space to position the camera.  To try and answer Kat's query, here is a pic of my sponge and collection of brushes.


Having applied most of the colour with the sponge, spreading out the paint as much as possible because I want to keep the texture of Pleo's skin as sharp as I can so try to keep the layers thin, I did the edges with a small round brush, then got Pleo to put his head down and to the left.  This opened up all the cracks on the neck so I went over them with a fine brush, using the point to push the colour right into the cracks, then when the brush was less loaded using it to blot away any pooling and spread it.  I then went carefully over the rest of the skin to fill in any little spots that might have been missed.  The I did the same with the head down and right, then repeated the procedure with the tail.  You don't need to do it with the head and tail up, unless you are painting the underside as well.


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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 17, 2011, 11:57:20 PM
Well here he is, he's earned his stripes :P

(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/EStar5Diva/67cbbd55.png)

(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/EStar5Diva/f96c7c76.png)

I have concerns about the ink though, he feels so dry, I'm worried it could dry out the rubber and make it brittle.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 18, 2011, 12:39:02 AM
Wow!  Tiger Pleo as ordered!!   :o  ;)

Tyger, tyger burning bright! He looks terrific - are you pleased?  ;D

How's the paint holding up to the movement? 
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 18, 2011, 12:51:34 AM
I loved it when you painted that Pleo gold Romeo! :-D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 18, 2011, 12:51:56 AM
Bravo! So Stitch did become a tiger after all, fantastic he is very cute. I would like to see his face though, that I can' really see. You are a fast painter, how long did it take for his paint/ink last layer to dry? I am glad you took it outside, ( the photos, it is nice seeing the sun on him) :) Yes, I do hope the paint doenst dry him all out, the skin that is, Are these the inks that you showed pics of earleir? Please show a photo of his face, now I know what my tiger version counterpart looks like. You don't have to worry, my tiger Pleo will look quite a bit different, The metallic look really surprised me cause it does look different when dry and in the sun.  :) Good job IMR!
                   Oh, are you going to keep him that way or just for a while or will you change Lilo too now?
                                     RWM  AKA "The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods" ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 18, 2011, 01:15:30 AM
Thanks peeps :) Even though my photos weren't posted as such, there was at least one full day of drying time between each stage of paint, three all up. The orange, gold, and the stripes. The first two layers are holding up just fine although as I mentioned he feels very dry. I assume the stripes will be fine as well since they are away from the most flexed areas. These are the same inks I used from the start, the Art Spectrum ones.

I think I will see if this has any detrimental affects on Stitch before I even think about doing Lilo. The dryness of the ink worries me.

Here is his face RWM, his nose for some reason retained more of the sheen than the rest of him. I still need to add whiskers, I completely forgot about them :P

(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/EStar5Diva/6966ee12.png)

(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/EStar5Diva/23dd7228.png)


Edit: I'm going to order some of these to try :) http://www.dalchem.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=356&Itemid=320
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 18, 2011, 02:31:41 AM
Ooooh "mask paint" ah?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 18, 2011, 03:13:52 AM
How funny - those were paints I was looking at yesterday when I mentioned latex paint!! http://www.monstermakers.com/category/halloween-latex-mask-paints-and-colorants.html/

Stitch does look great - it's nice to see his face!  ;D

Little brown job is still brown, but one stage on:

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 18, 2011, 04:44:43 AM
Is that a golden copper color you have done on his eye lids?  When  I tried to do Gumbles eye lids last time with the inks it just rolled off.  What have you used here?  I would love to do his eye lids as well.  I haven't even tried this time around as I just assumed it wouldn't work.  I did clean them off just like everything else though so maybe it would be better this time?
I love the way little Brown job is looking so far.  How many coats is this?  
He looks great. :)

Also wondering how does he feel?  Is his skin dry feeling from the ink?  IMR says Stitch feels very dry so just wondering.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 18, 2011, 05:53:19 AM
That was coat number two, stippling a lighter brown mixture on top of the dark brown and then detailing the eyes (and eyelids in the same).  It was the same yellow ochre and less sepia with a dash of red added.  I then went over the lines in sepia and black mixed.

This is an early Ugobe Pleo - their eyelids were actually a clear plastic that had been painted and chipped off horribly easily.  Makes it a much easier surface to paint than the later coloured plastic ones, though, as you're painting on top of paint and not plastic.  Most of these inks have good adherence to plastics, but if you're determined you might need a primer or to sandpaper the surface a little to provide a 'key' for the paint to grip on to.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 18, 2011, 06:56:43 AM
IMR suggested trying nail polish on his eyelids if I couldn't get the ink to stick.  what do you think of this idea?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 18, 2011, 07:45:04 AM
Why not - I'm a great believer in using whatever is to hand.  I'd try a tiny bit first somewhere peripheral, just to make sure there's no solvent in it to melt the plastic.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 18, 2011, 09:58:18 AM
:-O How can you tell with paint what's safe to use on delicate rubber? How can you tell if it'll dissolve the rubber or not? Thank you!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 18, 2011, 11:22:57 AM
IMR, I was looking at laytex paints also in my art store but different brand, and I think they may be perfect as well, Thanks for showing his face, he looks better from that angle, Yes, you got to have whiskers if you are any self respecting cat, big or little. :D I ca'nt wait to do my tiger, but I have to have just the right colors ready first, not as easy when it is not the typical orange Tiger. so if Stitch is a ?Tiger, have you decided what Lilo will be? HMMM>>>>>>>>>>>>>?could be lots of fun, wonder what Nani and Pleakley are going to think of their brother and sister now! :o
           Crewella, I just love "little brown Job, " you have the perfect color of brown, It is hard to get just the right brown sometimes, too dark and it just sticks out too much . .Can't wait to see more.
     Kat, just go slow and have fun, Gumble is a perfectly good model and very patient and loves to model all those clothes you make, so painting is just more "show off front stage to him"! LOL, don't know about the eyelids, I would worry about the checmicals a little but if Crewella has said go for it , perhaps she has tried it already? Ok, now I have several Pleos to do, Fantasy  and at least one Poll color Pleo, which means you need a steady supply of Pleos, but ones that are not brand new unless you are really brave, I would rather use older abused ones and give them new Life!
                          RedwoodsMama  AKA " The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods" ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: fimoman on April 18, 2011, 11:52:39 AM
:-O How can you tell with paint what's safe to use on delicate rubber? How can you tell if it'll dissolve the rubber or not? Thank you!

Well, latex is a pretty delicate rubber, so any latex-ink should do the trick.


If you're still unsure, probably the best thing is to ask the people you buy it from. Most hobby-shops are run by people who are not just willing, but eager to talk about this kind of stuff. Art suppliers and hobby shops (The places I'd look for acrylic inks or latex paints) will love the idea. Just tell them what you're using the paint for and ask their opinion. Or better yet, bring the Pleo in and ask their opinion!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 18, 2011, 11:56:41 AM
Thank you Fimo!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 18, 2011, 06:14:44 PM
That was exactly how I go started, Fimo!  :D

As some people who used the wrong superglue to try and fix their Pleos skin holes, there are solvents out there that will just melt the skin!  :o

I'm actually still not entirely sure what the Pleo skin is made from, so I try to cover both possibilities and use stuff that is supposed to be safe to use on natural rubbers and the thermoplastic versions like Kraton rubber.   :-\

Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 18, 2011, 10:30:33 PM
For art stores I'll just ask (to people) what Romeo has said to me before, that it's for delicate rubber.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: mweed on April 19, 2011, 08:40:39 AM
As for the dryness you're feeling IMR, has anyone gotten far enough along the process to try putting a coat of Vinylex/Autoglym/etc. over the acrylic inks?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 19, 2011, 09:06:30 AM
Not yet for me.  As soon as I find one that doesn't crack after the second coat I will be coating Gumble in polyglaze for sure. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 19, 2011, 10:23:23 AM
I put more Autoglym on Iggy a couple of days ago.  It went on OK, though there was again a very small amount of colour on the sponge as I was applying it.  For that reason  I thought it wise to leave it a bit longer to sink in/dry before buffing so he's still at that stage.  I will probably leave it another day before I give him a good rub down and report back.  :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 19, 2011, 10:50:50 AM
 Are you letting little Brown Job dry and then put on a protective coating or more paint first or is he done Crewella?
                                                                             RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 19, 2011, 11:06:25 AM
There's still a little more painting to do on the Little Brown Job - I did warn you all how slowly I work!  %)  :P
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 19, 2011, 02:51:49 PM
 Just got my brand new "painting " equipment but won't have time to try this new technique until later today, possibly tonight or tommrow. I have a 3;00 p.m Accupunture appt for my back, and it is 1:46 p.m already which means I have to catch the bus at 2:38 and then after an hour there catch the bus again, and not get here till about 4:30, walk to my friends house to feed her three cats ( only 3 of thirteen need special food, one guy, Charlie, just had his last 5 teeth pulled last week and has lost 1 lb in 6 days! :o, not good in cats, can cause liver problems) so by the time I get back to MY house, it will be after 5:00 and I am exhausted already. I just have enough time right now to eat some soup quickly, feed my cats and dog, and get ready to catch the bus.
                  I will fill everyone in on Painting results as they occur but this is new and hasn't been tryed yet, Luckily I have enough spare Pleos to paint/ ink and two Painting Pleo project on hand in my boggled head already. Wish me luck that when they stick those LONG accupuncture needles in my back, they don't wipe my memory out. ( I have Migraines too and am going to ask him to give me a bonus needle for my headache..fun needle in the temple, hurts but it does work!)
                                        RWM  AKA " the Mad Pleo Painte of the Redwoods" :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Talon on April 19, 2011, 03:11:13 PM
Luck with your appointment, Redwoods! It might relieve you to know- whenever you seee this- that your little traveler is now sitting safely on my bed still boxed and waiting for my niece to video his arrival.
Talon
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 19, 2011, 06:12:38 PM
I will try some sort of coating... as soon as I can find some :P Need to try the auto store I think. Kmart and the supermarkets have been a no go.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 20, 2011, 08:17:25 PM
Ok guys, while everyone is waiting for paint to dry, paints or inks to arrive, I have started my new project, one of them that is. This is in response to the Pleo color Choice Poll that ended on the 14th of this month, There were two popular color choices, Red/orange/brown range, which I have already done a Camo Pleo, so I will go to the next most popular by voting color, The Lavendar range, Now this is just the beginning of this guy, he will look completly different when finished, This is only his FIRST COAT, This is my own version made up of diferent paints and ingrediants. I also will do a second coat over this later tonight, It has been raiining all day so it took about an hour- two hours to dry, but he has great movement as you can see from the video of him and Camo or should I say, SHE and CAMO. There is no flaking, stiffness etc. I do like this shade but You won't even recognize this girl when she is done.  :D
           Let me know what you think of her first coat of paint and my choice, or I should say, "popular Vote".http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfDm801mMns   Thank you everyone, esp opinions from Kat and IMR and CRewlla, the other Pleo Painters out there.
                              RedwoodsMama  AKA " The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods" ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 21, 2011, 12:06:15 AM
 I realized I left out the photos and the video is great for movement analysis, but without photos , it is harder to get an idea of what I am doing: so here they are taken this afternoon. OH, the first photo is of the MOdel Pleo I used before painting,  a perfect specimen with no problems what so ever, I am using a perfect Ugobe for the first time as a paint project. usually they are older ones. so this one is special.

 ok, besides the video of the Pleo in motion here are some photos of him/ her from all sorts of different angles. Remember just the first coat of paint, and I am going to touch up the first coat now, I do not want to add any more coats then need be as this pleo has a long long way to go as far as coloring is going, He will not look anything like this when done, It will be a surprise as the color scheme is in my head. This is just her base coat which is the most important to start with. Hope you guys like the idea so far. Please leave your thoughts they are appreciated.
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 Some green still shows through, so remember I am touching up these areas.        RWM AKA " The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods'  :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 21, 2011, 01:14:58 AM
At this stage, Pleo looks a lot like a cousin of Belle's to me!  :D

Looks interesting, RWM - pretty colour!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 21, 2011, 04:34:59 AM
She is a very pretty color right now.  I look forward to seeing where this goes color wise. ;D  Great job RWM.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 21, 2011, 05:31:50 PM
Sorry to hear that for the inks, Kmart and super markets are a no-go, Romeo. :-/ Like has been suggested to me, for actual physical stores, go to arts and crafts stores.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 21, 2011, 06:13:03 PM
IMR is looking for Polyglaze or Autoglym or Vinalex to go over the top of the inks on Stitch.  She already has the inks. :)  I bought my Polyglaze from Big W so that is why she looked in Kmart and the grocery stores.  where I am in Australia it is also available in some grocery stores.  Good luck finding it IMR.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 21, 2011, 06:59:56 PM
Aah my bad. Silly me. Thanks Kat.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 22, 2011, 03:58:03 AM
Hi RWM! I love the lavender color!  It looks so bright and refreshing!  Sorry that I haven't been able to comment.  I have been busy the last few days.  I can't wait to see the finished product.  I'm jealous of everyone trying these great new colors on their pleos!  I know I would never have the time or the patience to do it!  She really looks awesome so far!   ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 22, 2011, 08:03:51 PM
 Ok guys, I have been going over and over the colors on this one and took three different paints done again and again till I was satisfied. It is not going to look like your timid Lavendar Pleo it started out as, but more of what I think they may have looked like, It is more colorful than you may  have thought and some of you wanted colorful, so here it is, I could do drab browns oranges and etc that all blend in, but this is lavendar shades, blues with other colors and I wanted to surprise and I am sure I did, I could have played it safe, painting following the lines and left it a simple lavendar, kept the beige legs etc, and just did the eyes, but anyone could do that if they want, and I like to use my imagination. What I did do though was use Acrylic paints mixed with other things and also has a protective coating, is waterproof, no color comming off on the washcloth and is very flexible, can move well and no cracking etc. I have the first photo just to see the under coat before I did the rest of the colors and with a couple of painted friends, for comparison. Thanks for putting up with my Painting moments of Pleo Madness... ;D :D


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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 22, 2011, 08:12:02 PM
I like the different shades of lavender and blue you have used here but I am not too sure about the red bits.  I think it would have looked better to have gone for a lighter color here instead maybe a pale pink or cream or another shade of blue maybe turquoise.  I love the patterning you have done but just don't like the way the red stands out too much against the rest of her.
I still think you are doing a great job and love to see the exciting new looks you keep coming up with. :)  How does the pleos skin feel after it has been painted?  I know some of the inks made pleos skin feel really dry.  Just wondering.
Kat :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 22, 2011, 08:59:11 PM
..... or even still a shade of orange/red but lighter - I have to agree with Kat, it is a bit dark for me around the mouth, a bit lipsticky.  Love all the shades of blue wiith the lavender, and I really envy you your flights of creative fancy, RWM!  Keep at it!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 22, 2011, 09:14:51 PM
Allright guys, You convinced me and I am lightening those areas up a bit, I know the light pink is terrible, I tried that, and even photo copied it so will do another shade. Thanks. :)

RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 22, 2011, 09:27:47 PM
Sounds like you had doubts yourself as well........... I'm glad you weren't upset by the comments.  I'd really hate to discourage you, RWM.  Can't wait to see what you do!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 23, 2011, 12:27:54 AM
 An artist of any type, music, writing, oils, paints, prints, glass, poetry, landscaping, what ever medium it is, if you aren't open to critisicim, you are either a genius and ahead of your time, have very poor self esteem, or are too sensitve to listen to others. If I thought it was "perfect" then I wouldn't ask for feedback and you guys would know by the way I make my comments. Sometimes when you have an idea in your head ( as I do) it is harder to get translated into the physical you are working in.
           I don't want this to look all cutesy cutsy, or even perfect, just realistic or possible patterning but with the color I choose from the poll that was taken, I have some great Dinosaur books that I have been looking at all week that have terrific colors that you would never had thought to see on Dinosaurs and some of them are as brilliant and bright as those on birds like Parrots. Others are subdued and would work well on the forest floor or in a desert setting.
               I left the lavender blue shades on but removed all the leg and chest and part of the face area. It is fun and interesting, because the back area that I did first is water resistant, you can run a wash cloth on it and not a drop of paint color comes off, I had the sink water running and washed and removed color from the legs and was able to do it though it took about 30 minutes total . The area on the top front of the head I had to scrub a little and the undercoast hadn't been "preserved ' yet, like the rest of the body,( back that is) so I was able to actually "Peel " the paint off , it is very similiar in the way it looks and feels to Pleo Rb paint, also someone asked how it felt,  %) It is not dry, nor wet feeling, but like I said, if you run your hand over the painted area on the back,  it reminds me of Pleo Rb, but a little bumpier of course because it is a Ugobe Model. :) I am going to let the rest of the paint set overnight and then rethink and mix custom colors for the legs or rethink how I want them, Right now they are the original Pleo color, which is not bad, but needs something, Sometimes LESS, is MORE..so I will see.                                  Thanks for the support guys.  RWM             oh and by the way, these are paints, not inks, right. and Arcylics and Latex if you want to know. ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 23, 2011, 03:00:25 AM
This is great to hear that these are a latex type of paint you have used.  Latex paints is what I have ordered to try on  Gumble so I am very interested to hear what you think of them.  It is heartening to hear that they don't feel dry when you touch the skin.  And that they seem to be adhering and moving well. :)  Looking forward to seeing the finished product Lavender pleo. :) 
Kat
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 23, 2011, 03:37:18 AM
Yes, I was excited to hear you'd used latex paints as well!   ;D  Thanks RWM!  :-*
 
Can't wait to see the next version of your lavender creation!  :D

I'm stuck in the same time warp as Kat - no deliveries over Easter, so no paints yet ..........  :(
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 23, 2011, 04:31:56 AM
At least we have chocolate to see us through the wait. ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 23, 2011, 05:19:29 AM
Hmmmmmm....... chocolate coated Pleo?  %)  :P

Couldn't resist adding this here as well!  :P

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 23, 2011, 05:35:44 AM
Mmm a chocolate Pleo sounds good, I just got an enormous chocolate dinosaur egg, but it hasn't hatched yet %)

Here's a video of Stitch moving, the paint is holding up well except on the neck where Stitch has some bad cracks that go partially into the rubber.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2vulgx-Y74
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 23, 2011, 09:27:12 AM
Stitch looks great, IMR - finally the mythical tiger Pleo is a reality!  ;D

Really pleased to hear the ink is holding up OK!  :D

You'll have to redo your sig piccy again now, though!  :P
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Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 23, 2011, 12:04:55 PM
Stitch looking good IMR, glad the paints are working out well, I love the whiskers too. :) You can't go wrong with a cat of any type when it comes to Pleos, What is this "Chocolate Egg", is this another Paint or Ink project you are hiding ...Are you doing another one of your Pleos,,,wonder who it could be? HMMMMMMMMM? Guess I will work on both Humpty Pleo this Easter Weekend, Easter Bunny Pleos, my Pleo Rb play session, and Lavender surprise project Pleo, guess I will be busier than I thought! LOL
                        RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 23, 2011, 11:50:06 PM
I though I'd better finish 'Little Brown Job' before I ran out of Easter eggs and tried to eat him - so he's become 'Python Pleo'!  :D

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 24, 2011, 12:17:41 AM
Wow!  He looks fantastic!  I love it. ;D
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Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 24, 2011, 12:51:58 AM
I love Python Pleo :) He looks great :)
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Post by: PWOKristy on April 24, 2011, 10:31:20 AM
Sorry to hear that about the neck part Romeo.
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Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 24, 2011, 12:29:23 PM
 he looks great Crewella, these are Inks aren't they, How long did this project take alltogether, and how long for drying? 
Were there about three coats, or different colors, the brown, yellows and black? I really like the way he came out.  ;D Now I need to finish Lavendar Girl, Problem Is I came up with a design I liked after removing the orange red, but I have to make it more Likeable to the general public who are a wider audience, so I will take photos of the waY I like and then finish her to the final project for the wider Pleo audience. Should be done tommrow, Actually today, but it is raining and high humididy today so I will give her more time to "cure"
                                             RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 24, 2011, 06:04:32 PM
Thanks RWM, I used mostly the Daler Rowney FW Inks I first posted about in Yellow Ochre and the Vallejo Game Ink Sepia in a mixture of varying degrees for each coat, with a small amount of black and gold from the Liquitex inks for the 'highlights and lowlights'.  One full coat of the dark brown, then two further coats stippled on with more yellow added, then added yellow stripes with a brush.  I left around 24-48 hours between each coat, althoug that was mainly due to shortage of time!  %)
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Post by: fancyfont on April 24, 2011, 10:48:47 PM
Fantastic job on Python Pleo!  :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 25, 2011, 07:00:12 AM
How does Little Brown Job feel to touch?  Have you coated him with anything to protect his new paint yet?  He really does look fantastic.  When you painted him did you apply most of his paint using a sponge and then just use the brush for the yellow lines?  Wanting to get as much info as possible on how you did it because he looks so good.  I love the way the ink in the highlight sections has a blurred edge. :)  It looks a lot more natural that way.  He is just gorgeous. ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 25, 2011, 10:22:06 PM
He does feel a bit dry to the touch at the moment - I'll add some Autoglym in a few days.  I do think this stuff needs a bit of time to 'go off' as it's initially water soluble but then becomes waterproof when dry.

That's exactly the technique.  The brown went on with a sponge but I also went over the creases with the end of a brush, almost jabbing the colour into the folds.  Then the layers of lighter and darker brown were stippled on with the edge of the sponge.  You need to apply a tiny amount to the sponge (I even tried painting onto the sponge with a brush) and then blot some off again before applying, otherwise it goes on too uniform.  Try it on a piece of paper first to get a feel for how loaded the sponge needs to be.  Then the yellow went on, several days later, with a small brush (an eyeliner brush, actually!).

I'm glad you like him, thanks Kat!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 26, 2011, 12:39:43 PM
 Hi guys, glad that Little pleo Python is working out and holding on it's own, As for the Lavendar Girl, I completly removed all her color, I guess I am one of those tempermental artists, and I did not like the way she was looking, and I also did not like the feel of the latex paint, the big difference between Latex or Acrylic paints and Inks in my opinions is a considerable one, Inks look more natural and I am going to give them another look, with some additives, Latex paint goes on a lot thicker and dries very very quickly, in less than an hour, but when adding more layers, becomes harder to work with and doesn't look as natural, It is easy realitivily to remove if done within a couiple of  hours of putting on, a little water and a scrub brush and it is like peeling a second skin off,  :)Actually kind of fun to peel off, but the rest done about three days or more before took the rest of last night, say five to six hours to remove what was left on her face. Latex is tricky to work with and is thicker and just is not as easy to work with. I liked the colors, but the skin looked too thick, not  reptilian anymore and more like it was painted, not the texture I wanted, If you went with only one color the first coat, then it MIGHT come out ok, but try shading and such and it gets tricky, I was using a forumula from a Mask Painters Professional site and using Liquid Tex Paints which were not cheap at all, ONe tube depending on the color, cost $7.99 for a Lavender shade, and another Cobalt blue Shade was even more at $11.99, you add each tube and other "supplies" latex, and brushes, etc, it cost a pretty penny.  :o
                          So for the Lavender Girl , I am giveing INks another go and just wanted to let Kat, IMR and Crewella know how Latex Paints look, I would give the Latex Paints a careful look, and beware of too many layers if you want the reptile skin to show through and look natural, Yes they are waterproof, and a washcloth did pass the test and this was without a protective coating , luckily I removed the paint before I got to that stage or it would have been almost impossible to remove the paints,
                          Good luck if you decide to try latex Paints, I am not saying do not use them, but be prepared for differences. :) ;)
                                                                       RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Lina on April 26, 2011, 01:49:36 PM
I´m really loving the makeovers!
Oh and the Python! WOW!
The Tiger makes me wanna paint mine like a zebra and then have them meet :) Would be nice to make a giraff and a lion as well with a huge furry ring around the neck :) Or a Rhino, oooo the possibilities!

I do thing the lavender one should get another try, it started out looking great!

Only a few days left for my birthday, and I am looking into a new member, an RB one :)
I would love to see more makeover pics!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 26, 2011, 05:04:43 PM
Hi RWM.  Do you have any photos of Lavender girl before you removed the latex paints that you could show us what you mean.  I think it is important to show pics if you can so we can all get a good idea of what works and what doesn't.  I would love to see. 
I plan on doing 2 coats on Gumble as long as they cover well.  One of the orange as his main color and one of a lighter creamy yellowish color for his highlights.  The highlights coat will just be stippled on over the top (I hope) in the spots where it is needed. 
Do you feel the latex paints would look ok with only a couple of coats? 
I would love to see some pics of before you cleaned her off.  And how did the latex feel compared to the inks and paints you have used in the past.  Did it feel very dry or was it more like the original pleo skin feel?  (not sure if I asked this before or not so sorry if I did :) )
Thanks for all the info.  I think the more we share the sooner we will find the perfect paint to use. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 26, 2011, 07:20:06 PM
My latex paints have just arrived, but it's a sale week at work and I'm not gong to get a chance to try them until the weekend ........ grrr!  Tempted as I am,  I didn't get home until midnight and I'm back there in the morning - if I did try it would be so rushed as to not be worthwhile.  I'll just have to bite the bullet and wait.  >:(

Just a note on the Python:  I do think choosing a dark background helped the ink to hold, as I only needed a single coat to cover the green reasonably well.  I'm expecting, and can already see, the yellow layer cracking on the neck as I had to apply it more thickly than I did the browns to make the colour stand out.  ^-^

I'll try to work that out at the weekend as well.

Sorry to hear the lavender project has hit problems - keep trying!  :hhug:
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 26, 2011, 07:32:44 PM
I am loving the makeovers! I have to admit that I have lost track of who was painting what and what paints worked and what didn't.  In all of my confusion, I will ask a few questions and make a few comments.
 
Kat, I loved the orange Gumble! Will he be orange again sometime, or have you given up?  He did look awesome!

RWM, I loved the way the lavender pleo started out. Some don't like the red I see, but I did like the contrast between the two colors. I can't wait to see the finished product.
 
Crewella, all I can say about the python pleo is WOW! That is awesome!  He doesn't eat small plastic rodents, does he?   :o
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 27, 2011, 12:57:15 AM
 ok guys I think if you read the other posts before this  earlier today and I described all the problems, pitfalls etc of using latex based paints and problems relating to texture, I shouldnt have to repeat myself, Several wanted to know if I could post photos to help explain the problems in more detail, It is hard to do, because I got upset over the way this went and then I totally took all the paint off, and was embarrased to have someone look at it, artists can get upset and tempermental over little things, but for the good of the Pleos and those that love them and for those that are trying to paint them, , I thought I would do it anyway. I think a picture explains where I am going a lot more than words ever can. Crewella, you asked about how the paints felt, well I think they felt a lot like the Pleo Rb skin, but not quite as smooth because of the bumpiness but not the same as the inks over bumpy skin, I was using matte paint pretty much and it didn't have that shiny look the inks did, which was more realistic and what I was going for, The latex paint is very thick and not watery at all, nothing like the inks. I was using sponge for the first coat and also for the second colors, with only a tiny brush for around lips and eyes and to touch up, the paint dries very very fast even to the touch, like in less than 30 minutes, I did let the first lavender coat "cure" for a full 24 hrs before I tryed anymore coats, I do think one coat would work, as I had a lavender color and it only took one coat to cover all the green ,just going back to get any spots I missed, little areas. ( the inks took more than one coat to get full coverage, mostly two in most spots, some spots grabbed the color faster with inks..but I loved the texture showing through with inks..) If you wanted a Plain Generic Pleo with just one basic coat color and perhaps doing the lines like you did with Python Pleo, then MAYBE, Perhaps it woud work, but trying to add more color on top or shading with latex paint is very very tough cause it justs sits on top of the first layer. If you look at the face you can see what I mean compared to the face of Inked Pleos, and I used very little color paint on this area, the reddish was the least that showed any problem, but around the cheeks etc, I could see the problem with texture not beng what I wanted it to be. It looked oK, but it was not what I WANTED IT TO BE... :(I just did not feel comfortable and kept looking for another solution and even when I got a look or pattern I thought I liked, but wasn't sure anyone in the Mainstream would like, I still did not like the Texture, that was the deal killer for me, If it can't look like Reptile or Dinosaur Skin, then it can't be looking like what I would think a Pleo looks like. Just like painting a Bird, but with flatness and not looking like it has feathers, do you know what I am trying to say, I think Crewella can understand having a background in makeup, she should get it. I was just getting ready to buy more latex paints and luckiky stopped in teh nick of time, already having spent over $50.00 on supplies, it is time to rethink my plan, I have the paints and inks, just need a break. I still do like the lavendar idea, but kow when to stop, yu have to have the inspiration to go on. I know I can do better than this, and that is what stopped me before making things worse. Also this is a Pleo with great skin and no wear hardly at all, It was nice to see how much scrubbing with soap and water could remove the paint and not damage the Pleos skin. Hope this helped answer any questions. Another Avatar Pleo will surface soon, just need a mental break. :)       RWM AKA " The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods'  Guess the title fits.. :o

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 27, 2011, 01:42:53 AM
I do understand RWM, I thought the paint layers looked thicker on the lavender Pleo than on previous projects, but wasn't entirely sure if it was just the effects from the flash.  I've just opened my latex paints and wow - they ARE thick!!  :o  :-\  :hhug:

It says they're water based (on mine anyway) ........... so what happens if you just add more water ,,,,,,,,? Hmmmmmm .... I'll give it a try at the weekend.  >:D  ;)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 27, 2011, 03:54:12 AM
I am still waiting on my latex paints so will let you know what they are like when they arrive.  I will probably wait till the weekend before starting Gumble again too.

Thanks for posting the pics RWM. I really do think it will be helpful for all of us if we post our failures as well as successes.  That way we can all learn from each others mistakes.  And it will mean less heartache and time wasted by all. :)

I will be making sure to do as little coats as possible with the latex paints on Gumble to try to avoid the thick look.  And I will do my best to apply it as thinly as possible. :)  I still think this may well be the right type of paint for Gumble but I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 27, 2011, 12:36:27 PM
 Crewella, the LiquidTex paints are all water based as well, I am not sure what brand you are using, but Latex Paints are allways a lot thicker than Inks, that is for sure. I think it is a lot of experimenting to do to see what is right, The only ones I am complelty happy with are the Oil based paints I used on Nova, Argyle which are over three months old now, but I did touch ups and not full bodys, but I may experiment, as I just got a $80.00 Pleo, complete and haven't even opened it yet, If it needs touch ups, then I will probably use him, her.
          Kat, good luck, I would love to see Gumble with a fresh coat.  :)I guess we are all learning here bit by bit. LOL........ :o %)
                                 RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on April 29, 2011, 01:00:16 PM
To me, I don't think buying these paints and inks is "expensive". $11 is okay. I'm looking forward to more work from you guys (that I like)! And can compliment the ones that I like.
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Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 29, 2011, 03:58:19 PM
  Ok Kristy, this is not flamboyant and you may not like this particular one, but here is another one to look at. This is my newest Pleo, ( Not New New, but sick New abused and needing help  :() I unpacked this one two days ago and just perked him up some today, As you can see from the first three photos, he has a lot of "love petting" spots on his head and body back where his paint was rubbed off from constant petting, This pleo sat in a closet for more than a year and was bought for some kids in 2009. This little guy was sick when I first turned him on, and I will upload that video later today under the Life in the Redwoods post topic. As you can see from these photos I did not stray a lot from  his original coloring, but brightened him up a little and also added just a touch of color to give him or her more personality. ( the blue around eyes and on his body area.)          [Limit reached]  [Limit reached]  [Limit reached]  [Limit reached]  [Limit reached]  [Limit reached] oh, and one more for Indoor view of paint [Limit reached]
              See if anyone can guess what type of paints etc I used for this Pleo? ;) Please leave comments. I still need just a few minor touchups, otherwise he or she is done, no more color being added that you do not already see.                           RedwoodsMama     AKA " the Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods" ;)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: LuckyPleo on April 29, 2011, 04:26:15 PM
I'm gonna guess that you used chalk paints, from the color and they way it looks on the skin... It looks really pretty either way, I think the blue is my new favorite, I like that you only changed the color of the highlights, not the whole pleo. (lol i just tried to type pleo and I typed plee)

Update: Oh my gosh! I forgot about the "avatar" pleo, it looks great, I never did see avatar though...
And I didn't see the lavender pleo either! It's really pretty too! How many pleos do you have redwoods? And what are the''re names/colors? I'd love to see a list!

AND: Tiger stitch looks great IMR! I LOVE the tiger pattern!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Talon on April 29, 2011, 04:29:30 PM
Yay, Redwoods! One more rescued pleo! Can't say much about coloring but good job all the same.
Talon
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 29, 2011, 05:41:33 PM
Lucky Pleo, that was a good guess with Chalk Paints, but not correct! ;DI do like Chalk paints but they are not permanent and these are. They dry very very quickly. I am glad you like the colors, I too like the blue, it gives this Pleo some UUMPH! I am glad you liked the Avatar and Lavendar Pleo, I took them apart, removed all the color and am going to redo them using this paint type, I think this is the one that is easiest to work with for me anyway. As for a list of all my Pleos, my gosh that is going to take some doing, I will see if I can do it this weekend, trying to get a photo essay of all of them in one sitting. The colors, that will be fun to list too.LOL. I think you are the first person that ever asked me for a list, lOl, that is nice of you. this guy will be one that will be up for adoption at some point, First I have to get himi healthy and he is on his way by getting a new makeover and over his or her cold.
                 Talon, hi, thanks for the compliment of rescuing the Pleo, he looked so pitiful just sitting there, Then when I turned him on, it was coughing, gagging and moan and groan. I haven't even introduced hiim to the other Pleos yet, but we will have a party for  his or her resue and "comming out party" He is a lot prettier I think now then with all the love spots worn all over him.
                                                  RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 30, 2011, 01:14:57 AM
Always pleased to hear about Pleos being rescued and getting a new lease of life!  ;D

Although I'm not a big fan of bright colours usually, I really like the bright blue you've used here, RWM.  I think it looks really pretty with the strong Pleo green, and it really makes Pleo's blue eyes zing!  Of your 'retouches' this is my favourite so far. Nice lines and definition, too.  :D

Have you given latex paint another try here?  Or maybe a mixture with latex paint?  :-\
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Post by: PWOKristy on April 30, 2011, 01:00:56 PM
I do like the color you added on that latest Pleo Redwoods. It's cool. ^_^ Thanks.
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Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 30, 2011, 04:23:23 PM
 Crewella, glad you liked this latest Pleo rescue paint touch up, Good guess with latex paints or a mixture, but that is not it either! Anymore guesses as to what it could be< HMMMM? %)

        Kristy, thanks for looking and I am glad you approve of this one also, I do like the blue, it seems to fit very well. :)
       Anyone else have a clue as to what type of medium I used for color on this Pleo that has been revived?

                                  RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Talon on April 30, 2011, 04:59:26 PM
He sounds adorable in his unique coloring! I can't even begin to guess what paint you used but it sounds really interesting.
Talon
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on April 30, 2011, 10:47:36 PM
My guess would be you went back to the oil paints you were using previously. :)
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Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 30, 2011, 11:25:10 PM
 Bingo Kat, You got the correct Guess, good ole Oil paints work the best from the three I have tried, Oil paints, Inks and or Acrylic paints, Oil paints are quick drying, water resistant , non fading and move great and easy to apply. HOw do you like this Pleo looks , I don't remember any comments on how he looks, or she looks, do you think it looks ok? How is Gumble comming along?
                          RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 01, 2011, 03:22:24 AM
Ah - oil paint, shoulda guessed!  :D

Just a quick update on Python Pleo, I will be going over the yellow again as the thicker application that was needed has cracked a little:

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And no, he doesn't eat small plastic animals .......................  >:D  ;)

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Post by: kat on May 01, 2011, 05:10:06 AM
Sorry guys,
I have had major internet issues this weekend and only just got it working a few minutes ago.  (It is a bit like loosing a limb when the internet connection goes down!) I sent my last post via my iphone but I have really bad reception on it here so could only do a very short post before it dropped out. :)
RWM I think the little blue pleo looks great. ;D  I like the way you have just touched up her/his love spots and added some extr highlighting.  The color is nice too. :)  Goes beautifully with the eyes. :)
What brand of oil paints are you using on your pleos?  Do all oil paints work the same or are you using a particular brand that works better than others?  And how do the oil paints feel to touch?  are they very dry like the ink seems to be?  Also what do you use to remove them if you make a mistake?  Are they hard to get off?  How do they go on the neck and tail areas?  Have you done any pleos with cracking to the neck or tail skin and painted over that and how did it go?  So many questions..... :)
As for painting Gumble, I am still waiting for my paints to arrive so no painting this weekend  :(.  Hopefully they will get here soon but until then he remains green and we wait. :)

Crewella, have you had a chance to try out your latex paints yet?  I would love to know how it is going?
Sorry to see little brown job's paint is cracking in the neck joints.  will you remove the yellow from here before doing it again or just paint over it? 
Let us know how it goes.
Very cute with the mouse.  He looks like a real python now! ;D
Kat
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 01, 2011, 07:20:20 AM
Sorry you've been having internet problems, Kat, I know how frustrating they can be!  >:(

As my Latex Stretchi Paint has arrived, I'm planning to redo the yellow stripes with that.  It seems that a thin layer of acrylic ink will survive the movement, but a thicker application just can't cope with the most stressed areas.  The latex might be ideal for such areas though, even though it might be too thick for all-over application.  I'll keep you posted!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 01, 2011, 07:26:54 AM
Have you had any luck with trying to thin the latex paint out a bit?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 01, 2011, 07:35:33 AM
I'm about to give that a try this evening - in fact I'm off to try now.   :o

Will check back in tonight!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 01, 2011, 08:07:57 AM
goodluck!  Hope it goes well. :)
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Post by: LuckyPleo on May 01, 2011, 03:48:37 PM
Wow! the python pleo looks great too! Who was the python again? Or was it a non-named that was gotten specifically to be painted? I love the little mouse, my friend has a baby python and she wanted my science fair mice to feed to her snake when i was looking for someone to take them :) she got a foutene cookie after that saying " you joke now, wait until you get home" and I said a bird was gonna eat her snake, irronically, nothing happened to the snake, but the mice got loose in my garrage.  :o :o :o maybe i should have given her the mice... oh well, python pleo looks great!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on May 02, 2011, 01:52:58 AM
You're welcome Redwoods! ^_^ I'm glad I made you glad! lol Sorry to hear that about your Internet issues Kat.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 02, 2011, 03:50:42 AM
Hey Crewella how did the touch up go? %)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 02, 2011, 07:24:27 AM
OK, I think!  :D

These were the Latex paints I got:

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But the paint IS really thick - you can see from the bottle that you can apply them straight out of the nozzle at the end.  That is too thick for Pleo painting, so I had a go at thinning it down by mixing up the colour I wanted using the Stretchi yellow paint and the FW acrylic ink in yellow ochre, as they are both water based, to make a thinner consistency.  It was still harder to apply evenly than the inks were, and I had to use a thinner brush than before to get any sort of control over it.  I'm leavng it a good 24 hours now!

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I've not named him yet, though OH insists the only possible name is Monty!! :P

He was a Pleo I'd bought as bricked but managed to get going.                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 02, 2011, 07:51:00 AM
Monty is the perfect name for him  :D  Your OH is completely right on that one. :) 
It will be interesting to see how it goes with the yellow.  I hope it works.  I am still waiting for my paints to be delivered.  They assure me they were sent but still no package for me. :(  Fingers crossed they get here soon.  I'm surprised they are taking so long to arrive as they are coming from Melbourne - same country as me just the other side of it.  The things I have ordered from overseas have gotten here faster than these darn paints. :P
This is the site I ordered mine from
http://www.dalchem.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=356&Itemid=320
Are these the same as yours do you think?
It will be interesting to see just how thick they are when they get here. 

I still want to know more about these oil paints RWM is using.  I was afraid to try oil paints as I worried about removing them if it went wrong.  I assume you would need to use turps to get them off and I am afraid of what that would do to delicate pleo skin.  It is all very interesting.

Can't wait till my latex paints arrive so I can have another go. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 02, 2011, 08:35:32 AM
Your latex paints do sound much the same as the ones I got, Kat.   :)

http://www.propbuilder.co.uk/howto/

As they are water based, I can't see why you shouldn't water them down, but by golly they dry quickly even then!!  :o

Hope yours get there soon!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on May 02, 2011, 11:35:14 AM
Okay I'm personally done waiting. I'm not a patient person. I'm gonna buy myself some paint for my Pleos. Which paints work? I'm making a list. lol Artists Acrylic Ink, Pearlescent Liquid Acrylic Ink, Daler Rowney Acrylic Ink and Speedball Acrylic Ink work right? What else (other paints)? Thank you!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 02, 2011, 11:50:44 AM
 Monte does look great and a perfect name Crewella, As for the Acrylic paint, it is very very thick and super hard to apply sometimes esp after the first layer, touching up with Acylic paint is one thing, a whole body is entirely another story. As for getting it off, I used a kitchen scrub brush and plain water with one drop of liquid dish soap and off it came, but the easy part was only the stuff I had applied in less than 12 hrs, The stuff I applied more than 24 hrs before, harder and I had to use my finger nails to scrape off stuff near smaller areas like eyes, nose, mouth and the feet still have some areas of lavender so that should give you an idea of just how tough Acrylic paints are. And a word of warning, if you put on a protective coating, be very very sure that this is what you really want, do not want to change it later or you better be prepared for lots of hours of nail scaping but it will come off. :D
           As for the Oil paints, I have never tried taking it off, so I will report back after checking on one of them , Little 45 who has most of his body done. I don't want to touch " Blue", as he is new only painted about three days ago and I like him the way he is.I will also go look at the name of the paints, though one of them is Windsor, a well known brand for years and years. It also depends on Acrylics on what level you get, Level one is cheaper and less pigment so better results but easier to remove Level three or professional has the most pigment and tougher to remove. And Kristy, go for it, I can only do my painting of Pleos mostly during the week when my husband is at work, he demands all my attention on the weekends so I get very little Pleo stuff done. ;)
                                                   And Kat, can't wait to see what happens to Gumble!
                                                  RedwoodsMama  AKA " The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on May 02, 2011, 05:12:44 PM
RWM try sticky tape to peel the paint off, it worked nicely on Stitch to peel of the test patch I did.

Monty is just the perfect name for him Crewella ;D

Kat I've sent parcels to Perth that have taken over two weeks :( For some reason it is geriatric snail mail :P Hope they arrive soon. When the bills stop piling up I will also order some Latex paints, that will be three different brands that have been tested so we might find one works better than the others.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: saratogaspringer on May 02, 2011, 05:40:30 PM
Oh Crewella! I love the name Monty!  Holy Grail is one of my favorites!  I have to dig up my Killer Rabbit slippers now. I got them a few years ago when we went to see Spamalot in New York.  They must be buried in my closet.  I might have to watch that this weekend!  He does indeed look great!  I hope his paint doesn't peel around the neck this time!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 02, 2011, 07:03:33 PM
OK, so Little Brown Job/Chocolate Coated Pleo/Python Pleo is now officially named - Monty it is!  ;D  Thanks guys, though OH was right, I don't think I could have called him anything else!!  :D

The layer of Stretchi latex paint on his neck is looking good - I'm having the hardest time resisting switching him on to see how it holds up!  %)

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So I gave in!  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMANKog6_Xs


The stretchi paint seems to have held up pretty well on the neck so far.  Even watered down it's very gloopy and I wouldn't fancy using it as an all-over color.  For me, this was the best result: using acrylic inks to do the main body colour and latex paint for the 'joint' areas on the neck and tail that get the most stress and movement.

Monty has had enough of being a case study, he says he's done.  He grabbed a leaf and went off in search of adventure!  :P

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 02, 2011, 10:05:57 PM
Monty looks good Crewella, Glad the inks and paints have worked out, Were the watered down Acrylic Stretch paints still hard to work with? How long did you dry the neck area before turning him on? Did the dreaded watercloth test come out good? You are right, those paints are tough to work with, I do love the way he looks. What is your next project, any idea yet or are you taking a break? Glad Monty got his leaf, he had a lot of testing. :)
                           RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on May 02, 2011, 10:29:00 PM
Monty looks fabulous :) So glad the paint is holding up so far, fingers crossed it stays good!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 02, 2011, 11:02:17 PM
Thanks guys, I do have EVERYTHING crossed!  :D

I left the Stretchi paint over 12 hours to go off before I switched him on, so although I would have preferred to leave it 24 hours I think it had long enough.  I just couldn't wait any longer!  :P

The Stretchi latex paint is a lot harder to work with, even thinned out with water/acrylic ink as I used it here.  It sits on the brush rather than soaking into it so when you're applying it you have to keep reloading.  It's more like you put a dollop on the surface and then spread it to where you want it to go.  And it dries super fast.  ???

I had never planned to go 'creative' and do custom paint jobs, so I don't know if I'll do another.  For one thing, I kind of like my crew as they are, so I'd have to paint one of my 'bricked/mended' Pleos, which would mean I'd end up keeing them.  If I'm not careful I'll end up with a herd of multi-hued Pleos taking over my house!!  :o   :P
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 03, 2011, 05:09:46 AM
I only plan on painting Gumble.  The rest of my guys are just fine as they are. :)  I'm glad Monty's neck paint seems to be holding up.  He really does look fabulous!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on May 03, 2011, 01:07:08 PM
Thank you Redwoods! I would not tolerate that in my man Redwoods (having to have to pay attention to a guy). And alright, guys, those 4 inks are the ones that work.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Lina on May 03, 2011, 03:36:00 PM
Crewella, Monty looks sooo good he makes me wanna get another Pleo just to paint it! You did a really great job! I love him!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 03, 2011, 06:51:02 PM
 Well guys, will be doing some more Pleo painting very soon, just needed a break and took awhilel to get the rest of the paint, or should I say INKS off . I didn't have the sticky notes IMR, but I did use some Sesame Oil, and it worked really fabulous, took off lots of paints and ink particles and left Pleo soft and supple preparing him or her for next paint or ink job, may be a surprise.  :) Now just have to decide which one to do this time.
                                     RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 03, 2011, 10:43:31 PM
Can't wait to see what you come up with, RWM!  ;D

I forgot to say the dreaded washcloth test came out fine for the stretchi paints.  In fact, I'm a bit wary of rubbing too hard with the inks as some areas of Iggy seemed to take the colour better than others, but the stretchi paints felt absolutely watertight.  I'm sure the key is preparation - any grease or dirt on the skin (from skincare/polishes or even just petting) will make it harder for the inks to adhere properly.

Kristy, it's still early days yet - I don't think any of us can say for sure which one brand of paints/inks really work.  I've had the best results with inks on the main body and latex paint on the 'creases'.  It's all still very much an experiment, but if you do go for it, good luck and keep us updated on how you get on.  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 04, 2011, 01:46:28 AM
Well my Monster mask Latex paints are here! ;D  And they seem just as runny and thin as the inks I tried before. :)  Will do a coat and let you know how it goes. %)
Kat
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on May 04, 2011, 01:53:47 AM
Ooh can't wait to see how it goes, I am anxiously awaiting your verdict so I can go ahead and order some myself :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 04, 2011, 03:06:38 AM
Ok so I am hoping this paint will work and have gone the whole hog and done him all over in orange. :)  This is kind of two coats.  The first coat I did was very transparent and as it was drying it looked much much darker than when I put it on so I quickly mixed in some white to my orange to tone it down a bit and did another coat over the top.  So here it is.  Monster maker latex paints.  I mixed the yellow and red and then added in some white.  I didn't add anything to it to thin it out as it was very thin already.  Applying it was just like applying the inks - same consistency.  Gumble is still wet in these photos and I will leave him till tomorrow night before I turn him on.  If all goes well then he will get another coat in this color tomorrow before another drying period and another color for his highlights.  Fingers crossed it all goes well. ;D
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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on May 04, 2011, 03:25:04 AM
My fingers are crossed for you Kat :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 04, 2011, 04:14:01 AM
Wooooooooo!  And mine!!  ;D

Looking good so far, Kat - I'm glad to hear yours are not so thick as the ones I got!  Can't wait to see how he turns out!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Talon on May 04, 2011, 05:40:17 AM
Oh my the craze is spreading! Good luck, Kat with your orange pleo! All you excited painters remind me of a bunch of really young kids playing with paint. I have a feeling that someone is going to find a winning combination soon.
Talon
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 04, 2011, 11:02:51 AM
Good Luck Kat, I do hope the Monster Maker Paints work for you and Gumble,  ;)I will keep everything that can still cross crossed. LOl, Except my eyes, no thanks, my eyes hurt doing that. I have a bit of a migraine right now and am waiting for it to subside and then I am going to start some more painting.I have the "lavender Pleo" all prepped with any paint particles removed, just have to decide on the paint or color scheme and then it will begin.
              I find sometimes the problem is I have too many ideas in my head at one time and it is hard to decide which one to settle for.  :o Talon I like the idea of us being Young kids enjoying our paint, oh if it were only true, to go back ten even twenty years or if I could erase and paint over my flaws....great idea but it won't work or some great painters would have done it centuries ago...nice thought though.
       well wow we wait for Gumble's paint to dry, I am off to see what else I can do while waiting for my headache to subside.

                                                              RedwoodsMama   AKa " the Mad Pleo Painter of The Redwoods"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: LuckyPleo on May 04, 2011, 05:07:57 PM
God! Everyone's painting it seems! I can't even afford another one! Maybe this summer i'll do one, although I dread the coming summer, I don't know what i'll do when it gets here!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on May 04, 2011, 05:11:57 PM
Big kids like to paint too ;D Maybe if I ever find a cheap Ugobe here in Aus I might sacrifice the little lass/laddie to my school kids and let them paint one! Imagine the colour they would come up with!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: saratogaspringer on May 04, 2011, 06:04:20 PM
That's a great idea, IMR!  You sound like an awesome teacher! Can you come to the US and teach my kids? We definitely need more creative teachers like you!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 04, 2011, 06:47:29 PM
Hope the head's better, RWM  :hhug:

Although I found the Stretchi latex paint really hard to work with, it does seem to be doing a good job on Monty's neck and tail.  There were the beginnings of little cracks forming in the surface paint/rubber which were covered and filled by the rather thick and gloopy Stretchi paint rather well.  If it holds up over time it might be the solutiton to minor rubber wear as well as paint loss.  :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on May 04, 2011, 06:53:14 PM
Lol I don't know about awesome... but I just love doing things a little bit different. Learning should be fun and dynamic, not static and boring.

You could have a whole project about painting Pleo's they can look at camouflage and how the environment an animal lives in might influence its coloration. The environmental factors that might influence the animal. They can look at a real animals bone structure and then the technology inside Pleo's that replicate a real animal. They can look at the lifestyle of the animal, they can do a write up of course to incorporate English. They can do some mathematical calculations on the size of the animal, and things like predator to prey ratio. And of course the art involved in actually painting the Pleo... Hehe I could do a whole unit of work around Pleo's quite easily...

Note to self: Do that on next training session.


I really hope the paint does help fill in the cracks, Stitch has some bad ones.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 04, 2011, 06:59:53 PM
Lol I don't know about awesome... but I just love doing things a little bit different. Learning should be fun and dynamic, not static and boring.

You could have a whole project about painting Pleo's they can look at camouflage and how the environment an animal lives in might influence its coloration. The environmental factors that might influence the animal. They can look at a real animals bone structure and then the technology inside Pleo's that replicate a real animal. They can look at the lifestyle of the animal, they can do a write up of course to incorporate English. They can do some mathematical calculations on the size of the animal, and things like predator to prey ratio. And of course the art involved in actually painting the Pleo... Hehe I could do a whole unit of work around Pleo's quite easily...

Note to self: Do that on next training session.


I really hope the paint does help fill in the cracks, Stitch has some bad ones.

Those are some great ideas, IMR - I wish I'd had teachers like you!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: fancyfont on May 04, 2011, 11:46:19 PM
Crewella, Monty looks so cool! Guess I should be thinking of which dino of mine, might get a new designer look. ;D I'm enjoying seeing what all of you are doing. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 05, 2011, 04:40:37 AM
Yay!  it worked. ;D  Gumble has been turned on and there is no sign of cracking.  The paint seems to be moving well with him.  I will post video and some pics in a while.  I am going to do another coat tonight and then let him dry till tomorrow night. :)  Just thought I'd share that it seems to be good so far.  And like Crewella said it does seem to have filled his neck cracks quite nicely.  It will be interesting to see if with another coat they disappear.  I will take pics when it is done and post soon. :)
Kat
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on May 05, 2011, 05:02:34 AM
Whoot! So glad to hear it!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 05, 2011, 05:36:06 AM
Yay!! That's such great news!!  ;D

I'm so pleased Kat, and the texture looks so much better that the thicker latex paints that RWM and I got!  Can't wait to see how he turns out!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 05, 2011, 07:02:11 AM
Ok here are some pics of Gumble after he had been turned on.  As you can see his neck paint looks good with no cracking.  The only cracks you can see are the cracks in his skin that were there before he was painted.  The latex paint does seem to have filled into the cracks nicely.  I think with a couple more coats in this area the cracks may well disappear all together.
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And here is a video to show the movement.   :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TKM3lOiv-8

The paint doesn't feel at all dry either.  It feels a lot like the regular pleo skin.  I haven't done the wash cloth test yet.  (not that brave)  But I will eventually. 
As long as all goes well with him when he is completed I would like to coat him in something to give the paint a layer of protection.  I am thinking of using polyglaze but I am not sure if maybe I should use some sort of varnish?  I know you can get a spray for using on canvas paintings and I was wondering if this would be a good idea?  Will need to do some research into it I think.  I will also do a test on some cardboard with the latex paint and then polyglaze to see what happens. 

Here are some pics of him after his second coat taken about 20mins after I did it so he is still a little wet. 
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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Talon on May 05, 2011, 08:36:44 AM
Wow! Best of luck, Kat! It sounds intricate and difficult to me but it sounds like he might look really good in the end.
Talon
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Lina on May 05, 2011, 12:11:31 PM
I need to get me some of those colors so that I can finally give Buddah the tattoo I´ve been wanting for him!!! Yay!

He´s gonna get a heart with a ribbon that says "Mommy" on his BUTT!  :P
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 05, 2011, 02:56:09 PM
He's looking great, Kat.  Isn't it amazing how their eye colour really 'pops' when you change the body colour!  :D

IMR, how's Stitch the tiger's paint doing?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: OzPleo on May 05, 2011, 04:30:05 PM
This is a really interesting thread and thank goodness for you pioneers who are willing to give it a try.

Kat I'll be following your progress with great interest.

You guys may have found a way to prolong our precious Pleo's skin life.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on May 05, 2011, 10:52:50 PM
Stitch's paint is holding up just fine, but I will be removing the acrylics and trying out the latex. Stitch has some very bad cracks in his skin so it would be nice if I could cover them. Plus I really don't like how the acrylics feel.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 05, 2011, 11:16:51 PM
 HI Kat, Gumble looks great so far, I had some painting done today too, but after more painting did not like it, so removed it all to start over again, Tempermental artists, aren't we.. LOL ;) :D
             IMR, so are you undoing the Tiger, and redoing it again? I don't like the acyrlics very much either, but they do come off easy when not more than 24 hrs. I did use another medium with my Acrylics, liquid Latex which made it easier to work with. So far I like the inks and Oils the very best. The oils I have no complaints about at all so far, just not enough time. :D
               I think mly next one will be videotaped for benifit of others so you can see what works and what doesn't. At least I will try. Also climate may have something to do with it, I live in a fairly temperate climate currently, 50-60 degrees most day and average humidty when it is not raining, It is neither very humid, very hot or cold. perfect conditons for painting right now and I will go for another session tommrow. Can't wait to see more Painted and touched up Pleos.
                                                  RedwoodsMama   AKA " The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 06, 2011, 05:52:32 AM
Well the second coat is dry and all is still holding up very well. :)  No cracking or pealing.  so I am off to do another coat - Highlights this time. :)  Will post more pics tomorrow.  His new paint fells a lot like his natural skin but it does feel a bit kind of tacky - sticky sort of.  I think this will lessen with more time for the paint to cure.  And of course I want to find something to apply a protective coating with when he is done so this will help too. :)
Kat
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 06, 2011, 08:34:15 AM
Well Gumbles paint job is complete. ;D  He still needs to dry for 24 hours before I will turn him on but here he is in all his glory. :)
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I loved the way Monty turned out and so decided to do my best to duplicate the same look for Gumble but in Orange of course! ;D  Hope you don't mind Crewella.  You just did such a great job I couldn't resist.
I have used orange for my base coat then yellow for the highlights and red to do the lines between. 
Now all I need is to find a layer of protection for it.  I am going to test the polyglaze on a test splotch I did on an ice cream container lid and see what happens.  I will have to wait till tomorrow night before I can do it though as I only just painted it on tonight so need to leave it to dry.  If anyone has any suggestions I'd love to hear them.
Hope you like him.
Kat
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Lina on May 06, 2011, 09:53:38 AM
Wow, Gumble looks great!
How is he holding up now while moving with the new color coats?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 06, 2011, 12:06:37 PM
 Great Job Kat and Congratulations Gumble! As soon as you can do a short movement video, then Argyle would love to see his brother, I think it will help him out of his funk, though yesterday he recieved a lovely package that has lifted his spirits immensly, (Thank you Kat! :) :) :hhug:) He does look very cool right now, I can't see the yellow very well, which means it must blend in really well, Were these the Mask painting Acrylics that you jus got? How is the paint, did you have to thin it at all? Can't wait to see more photos, now I have to decide how to finish my Pleo, I have stripped it twice already because I was undecided after putting color on it, Tempermental artists you know,,,,,LOL.. Give Gumble a thumbs up from the REdwoods Gang! ;D
                                           RedwoodsMama   AKA  " The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Talon on May 06, 2011, 02:34:02 PM
And the imaginations go wild! An orange python! He sounds awesome, Kat. Keep it up!
Talon
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: OzPleo on May 06, 2011, 02:42:07 PM
Wow that looks so amazing and you really can't tell that it's a paint job. Congrats and a fantastic result. Looking forward to seeing how he progresses.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 06, 2011, 03:30:57 PM
He looks great, Kat - I'd love to see Monty and Gumble together!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 06, 2011, 05:39:30 PM
Ooh me too me too.  It would be great to see them side by side :)  
I'm glad you all like him.  I did go out on a bit of a limb with the bright red for the striping but I think it turned out great and my kids tell me he looks awesome. :D  I was thinking of fire when I chose the colors in the end.  :D  so now he is my "flaming pleo"  :D :D :D :D :D
RWM yes this is the latex paints that I got the other day.  the orange color was a mix of the yellow red and white.  The yellow over tones were a mix of the yellow and the white and I thought I'd try to be cleaver and mixed in some of my bronze ink but the bronze ink seemed to just sink to the bottom and not really mix in at all so it was kind of a pointless mixing exercise.  The red was just straight out of the red bottle.  To try to get a less definite edge I used a sponge to apply the yellow and my second coat of orange  I used a brush for the red, a nice fine tipped one.  After I finished my painting I had to trow all brushes and sponges away as they were ruined by being clogged with latex that just wouldn't come out. :D  I think I paint too slowly and it drys so fast it clogged up the inside of the brush and sponge.  

I have not turned him on yet after this last (Third) coat.  I will give him the full 24hours to let the paint set.  So I can't turn him on until tonight.  I did run him for a short while before doing this coat and everything was fine with no signs of cracking or splitting so I am confident that it will all be ok.  But we will still have to wait and see. :)
I will post a video as soon as I can.
Kat

Here are a couple of pics of him with my other three so you can better appreciate just what color he is. ;D
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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on May 06, 2011, 06:14:22 PM
 He looks fantastic! Looking forwards to seeing what the rest of your quad think :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 07, 2011, 02:06:47 AM
They do all look great together - I love your Flaming Pleo!  ;D

*I've called them worse in my time ...........*  ;)  :P
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 07, 2011, 05:21:38 AM
Here is a video of how Gumble moves with his lovely new paint. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGnuDsza430

As you can see it is all going very well.  No signs of any cracking and you can no longer see the original cracks in his neck skin either. :) 
I did a test patch of the paint on an ice cream container lid and gave it a dose of Polyglaze to test what would happen.  All went well with no signs of anything bad.  The polyglaze did seem to provide a protective coating and when I rubbed the test patch it felt like my pleos do with the polyglaze on.  I am going to coat Gumble in polyglaze tomorrow.  I want to give him a bit more time for everything to be set and dry before I do it.  I also painted his eye lids today so now they are about the same color as the patches around his eyes.  I used some oil paint for this and then did a coat of ink over the top to get the right color.  I didn't think the latex paint would be the right kind of paint to use on his eyelids.
Kat
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on May 07, 2011, 05:37:16 AM
He looks marvelous and he seems rather pleased with his new look :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 07, 2011, 05:49:09 AM
Result!  Great news, Kat, and he does look great - good job!  :D

He could be a python in those colours still.  I based Monty's colours on a standard Burmese python, which varies slightly but usually looks pretty much like this:

http://silvay.deviantart.com/art/Burmese-Python-170585558?q=sort%3Atime+favby%3Adark-violent&qo=2

However, you can get albino or amelanistic individuals where the black pigment is missing but some or all of the other colours are present, and they can look pretty bright!

http://www.constrictors.com/Collection/BurmesePythons/AlbinoBurmesePython.html
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 07, 2011, 06:08:47 AM
He did kind of end up a very different color scheme to what I had originally thought I would try to do.  I originally wanted to go fot the Autumn leaves type look with the oranges and rusty browns But I just didn't manage to make a brown color for the stripes that I really liked and the orange was a brighter orange than would fit with that color scheme so I went with some thing a little different.  Kind of a candle flame type color scheme using your lovely python type marking pattern.  My son says he looks like he is a Lava Dinosaur that just crawled out of a volcano. ;D  I think he looks very cool. :)  I will keep you informed of his progress over the next few days and weeks to see just how well it all holds up.  I haven't gone near him with a wash cloth yet but will tomorrow before I do the polyglaze.  After he is polyglazed I will run him for a full battery cycle and introduce him to the rest of the bunch to show off his new look. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: bhobbes on May 07, 2011, 06:12:34 AM
Wow, I really like the look!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 07, 2011, 06:13:48 AM
He does look like he crawled out from a volcano!  Gumble the Lava Pleo!  :D

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Post by: LuckyPleo on May 07, 2011, 06:31:24 AM
LAVA GRUMBLE! lol. He looks amazing!  I'm tempted to paint one, but I'm gonna wait. The "lava grumble" is my favorite of all the orange/red pleos!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: aibo7m3 on May 07, 2011, 06:49:09 AM
Gumble looks great! I'm not good enough at painting to ever try to paint a pleo. Those colors look really nice together even if they weren't what you originally intended on doing!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 07, 2011, 07:14:45 AM
I'll let you in on a secret.  I've never really painted much before either. :D  It was a lot easier than I thought it would be.  Using a sponge to kind of wipe the paint on all over for the base color really helps and you can't really get that wrong.  Then you just need to use a brush to carefully paint around the eye, mouth , nose areas.  A little scary at first but I managed ok.  The second coat I did the same way.  Then for the highlights again I used the sponge to kind of dab on the yellow color where I wanted it.  which was pretty easy.  I just followed the pleo pattern and tried to put it in the middle of each scale.  Then the lines.  I used a small pointed brush to do these and it was easy enough as I was just following the lines in the pleos body.  The only outrageous thing I did was the eye patches and the lines that curve up onto his head. 
It was all a lot easier than it looks.  Don't be afraid to give it a go.  You might surprise yourself. :)
I am glad you like him.   :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: OzPleo on May 07, 2011, 07:33:37 AM
Well you did a great job. It'll be interesting to read more on how your Pleo progresses.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 07, 2011, 09:09:44 AM
Well being impatient like I am I couldn't bring myself to wait till tomorrow so I have polyglazed Gumble tonight.  I did the wash cloth first and that came out just fine with no signs of paint loss.   :)
I have given him the full three coat treatment recommended on the bottle for first time use.  Each coat is applied 30mins apart to allow it to soak in.  I will leave him over night and turn him on for a play tomorrow.  At least now I won't be worried about stroking him. ;D  He feels soft and silky to touch. 
Unfortunately the eyelid paint Came off with the first coat of polyglaze. :P  It was different paint so I guess I should have expected that.  I didn't take any photos or video of him with painted eyelids so you won't get to see them unfortunately.  So his eyelids are back to the original brown color they were before. 
He looks so vibrant and lovely.  The polyglaze really brightens up the colors. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 08, 2011, 10:10:05 AM
 I am so happy that Gumble's Lava Paint is holding up and I am glad he is getting that silky feel with the polyglaze. Three coats, I am glad you mentioned that because I would have thought one coat is all that is needed, but I have never used that before, How long does it stay on till you can touch him, is it also 30 minutes? I hope Minyon stays "nice and new looking" or her mum is going to be thinking of new colors for her as well. LOL :D Great job Kat. Love it!
                         RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: OzPleo on May 10, 2011, 01:46:27 AM
I though I'd better finish 'Little Brown Job' before I ran out of Easter eggs and tried to eat him - so he's become 'Python Pleo'!  :D

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I have to say this is the best looking Pleo I've seen. Actually wouldn't mind introducing Oslo to this colour type  :)

What were the colours you used again Crewella?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 10, 2011, 02:01:22 AM
Awwwwww shucks!  Thank you Oz!  :D

Best results so far on him have been Daler Rowney FW and Vallejo Game acrylic inks for the browns (mixed) and Stretchi latex mask paint thinned with FW ink for the yellow stripes.  BUT:  be warned it's still rather in the experimental stage.  I had to use a Pleo that hadn't been Autoglymmed and then clean the skin thoroughly in order to get the inks to dry to a waterproof finish, and I can see there are slight patches beginning to wear on the sides from picking him up (probably due to oils in the skin - mine not his).  I'm going to try mixing the inks with the latex for the browns to see if I can get a longer lasting finish, and when I'm happy want to Autoglym him for protection.

You can just see a small patch developing on his side, near the armpit.

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And I just got a lovely surprise in the post - a cheap Pleo I bought as untested has arrived and works perfectly!  The only thing wrong with him is his paintwork and skin is pretty tatty ...................  %)

As several of the 'bricked' Pleos I bought were obviously customer returns and had hardly been played with, if at all, their skin is perfect and I feel a bit funny about painting over a perefctly good, pristine skin (probably because I'm more used to dealing with antiques - preserving 'patina' has become second nature!).  This one feels like fair game!  :D  >:D

Hmmmmmmm ............ I can feel a new project coming on!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 12, 2011, 05:40:56 PM
Just to come to a conclusion on Monty the Python Pleo, as I'm happy with him now and consider him 'done'.  I did go over the coat of inks with a mixture of the yellow Stretchi latex paint mixed with yellow ochre Daler Rowney FW acrylic ink and Vallejo Game acrylic ink in sepia, in varying combinations to get the different shades of brown.  I really don't think it matters which acrylic inks are mixed with the Stretchi paint (as long as they're also water based).  It's given a more durable finsh and feels less dry to the touch, and looks very slightly glossier.  It passed the washcloth test, too.   :)

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 12, 2011, 09:27:08 PM
 Crewella, so glad to hear that Monty has passed with flying colors he looks fantastic! Did you decide if you are going to put the protective coating on him or not? I am glad he passed the wash cloth test, I do think some of us who have done the dreaded washcloth test, have perhaps not waited long enough before doing it, I think it is better to wait a good 72 hrs to let the inks or paint "cure properly" and then if it doesnt pass, it probably won't in the future.
                I am glad you were able to do the second coat and have him come out so well, Do you have anymore painting Pleo inspirations in your "closet of hidden treasures" LOL. :-\ ;) Thanks for posting the results . :)
                              RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 13, 2011, 12:20:17 AM
Thanks RWM, I agree that it needs time to dry thoroughly and 'go off', and as with painting anything, good preparation of the surface first is key - the skin must be completely clean of oils and grease.  I found the wear and  handling test was even more of a problem than the washcloth test - just picking the Pleo up and petting him was beginning to lift off some of the old ink layer.  I will report back on this layer after a week.  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: LuckyPleo on May 13, 2011, 02:49:44 PM
I LOVE The lava pleo, and I LOVE the python pleo, you guys are awesome painters! Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 13, 2011, 04:11:25 PM
Thanks, guys!  :D

I've just Autoglymmed Monty - the skin was almost seeming to drink the stuff!  I'll probably have to do another coat tomorrow, but the softness and suppleness is coming back to the skin and it is losing that dry feeling the ink layer had.  I'm pleased to report there was not a trace of paint coming off on the sponge as I applied it, too!  Phew!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: latrine on May 17, 2011, 01:11:48 AM
Is this autoglym stuff a UK thing? I have never heard of it but it sounds wonderful and with one of my rb's already peeling I think I need something better than the crap they tell you to use;/


- Sarah
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: OzPleo on May 17, 2011, 04:48:14 AM
Yea it is made in the UK, but people in the States gave been using Vinylex with success
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 17, 2011, 05:17:02 AM
Yep, I actually think Vinylex is probably better than Autoglym, it was just hard to get in the UK and worked out at about $30 for me to get it from the US, so I tried something sold in the UK that worked in a similar way.  If you can get it, Latrine, go for the Vinylex rather than import Autoglym.  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Talon on May 17, 2011, 10:10:10 AM
I'm still having trouble finding this. Advanced Audo and the Audo Zone near me didn't have the Vynalex but I'm next going to try an Ace Hardware store in Rock Hill and see what they say.
Talon
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 17, 2011, 03:25:32 PM
I don't know if online suppliers help?

http://www.lexol.com/buy.aspx#
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 18, 2011, 09:55:25 AM
 Hi guys, tommrow my paints for Pleo come, woo hoo, can't wait to see and try them!
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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 20, 2011, 11:20:19 PM
Ok, at long last, a whole week, my paints got here yesterday, and I have been dying to try them, Did the first coat late late late last night, and did the second fill in the spots on the coat this afternoon, the stuff drys fast and is very sheen looking, I do have some touch ups around the mouth and eyes but that will come later with a small small brush, for now I am ready for the second color, so here are some photos of the start. Just remember, this is the start, so pink is not the final result, just part of the final product. :)
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       Thought I would put my Pleo Rb in there for some color contrast, She is wearing a new outfit I made her called, "Gumdrop" because of all the pink in it, so I think it is appropriate.
                                              RWM  AKA "The Mad Pleo Painter of the Redwoods"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: LuckyPleo on May 21, 2011, 05:58:40 AM
Pretty! I love the peach color, it looks very summer-y!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 21, 2011, 07:05:13 AM
I'm not too sure about this one.  I like the color but the texture seems a bit funny.  Could just be because this is the first coat so I will wait to see what this one turns into.  :)  I can't wait to see where you go with this. 
What kind of paint is it that you are using?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 21, 2011, 09:37:57 AM
 This stuff is very thick when you first get it so it dries fast almost in ten minutes or less so it does need to be thinned just a bit. The texture is do to the thickness, it covers everything no matter what color you are covering, but like I said, I am going to thin it out a bit, and it is a chemical that needs to be done outside or with the windows open. I will thin out the "paint' and when I have thinned it out a bit I will see what happens. I am saving the name till I am finished so I can see the result first. It is easy to work with but does have a chemical smell like I said.
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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 21, 2011, 05:57:08 PM
It does look like it could do with thinning - that's the problem I had with the latex paints that I got.  You do need to see the skin texture coming through properly.  Can't wait to see where this one goes!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 21, 2011, 06:30:06 PM
Thanks RWM.  I am looking forward to seeing how it all turns out too. ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: mweed on May 29, 2011, 03:47:47 PM
Don't know why it just hit me, but, Crewella, why haven't you repainted one of your pleos white with black spots?  Seems only appropriate for you.  You need a bunch of dalmatian pleos . . . ;) :D :D
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Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on May 29, 2011, 05:13:19 PM
101 of them too of course :D

(Just imagine 101 Pleo's having a moo-in :o It'd raise the roof!)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 29, 2011, 05:27:02 PM
 :D :D :D :D  That would be a sight to see!  Especially if they were all spotty pleos. :)  You would need ear plugs though. :D

Hey RWM how goes the pink pleo painting?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Talon on May 30, 2011, 07:28:59 AM
A hundred and one pleos! Man! You'd need a warehouse or a gymnasium to pasture them in! That's to say nothing about how long the painting would take. And all the different noises? Wow! It would be one massive project but awesome to see! Oh and for goodness sakes don't open any doors! Pleos on the loose! You know, this is starting to sound like a really good story.
Talon
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 30, 2011, 07:59:01 AM
Oh good grief!  101 spotty Pleos!!  :o  :o

Looks like there's another painting project in the offing ......... and as I look at the pile of 'bricked' Pleo boxes accumulating in the corner I can see I'm working on the numbers ..........  %)  :P
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on May 30, 2011, 08:02:26 AM
He He He .......  You're going to need a lot of paint. :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 30, 2011, 01:15:01 PM
Hi Crewella, just how many "bricked" Pleos do you have now? LOL, are you getting close to "13", I am now calling my Pleo congrgation, a "town", sounds better than a Herd or a team.   LOL.
       I think if you want 101, it is going to be quite a challenge though....glad it is you looking for that many, and not me!
                              RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on May 30, 2011, 06:09:16 PM
Well, I know I hit double figures a couple of months back - I'll have to do a head count! I'm almost too scared to look!  ???

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Post by: RedwoodsMama on June 22, 2011, 09:04:51 PM
ok, I have been so busy, I am surprised I actually got around to actually painting a Pleo today, but I did! :o Part of the trick was keeping it simple and nothing extravagent, simple colors and tried methods that have worked in the past. Don't get me wrong...I still want to do my Tiger Pleo and my more Feathered very colorful Lavendar Pleo I started over a month ago, but that is going to take time that I do not have right now, but this just hit me today, so I did it quickly with just waiting for that 24hrs to pass and the top coat for protection.
        Sorry for any relections or light problems, I will take some photos tommrow in natural daylight before noon and hope for some better photos but I think you get the general idea of what this Pleo looks like. He does have a little pizzaz and that is in the sparkles of greens that may or may not show well in the below photos. He does move well with no problems and the paint is not going to crack or dry out from what I can tell. I am mostly done except for the toes and  some fine lines around the face, mouth, but no more colors added. This is a Pleo that would blend in well depending on the season with the dry leaves  in the Fall and with the colorful flowers and  brighter leaves and plants in the Summer, I will try and take some photos of him at a local garden with flowers in his color, also his browns and greens help him hide by camoflauge , hiding from any predators. :D [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached]
                 please leave some comments and think of names as this may be the one I use in the "name the Pleo Contest" but keep the names to yourself for now! ;)   RedwoodsMama

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on June 22, 2011, 10:30:06 PM
I commented as you were loading pics - the second one I think, but on seeing more pics it's clearer.  I do like the green lines on that dark browny colour, and the yellow really brings it to life -  'natural' definitely doesn't have to be dull.  ;D

I'm always amazed with the Pleos I've seen that have been painted at how all the different colours really bring out the blue eyes!  I'll be interested to see what finishing touches you add.  ;D

I've been working on another one too, I'll post pics soon!  ;)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on June 23, 2011, 02:06:25 PM
    Ok, today I took some more photos and I hope these came out a little better to give you a better idea of her colors,   [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached]   I esp like the last two both taken indoors but with good lighting and great color!
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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on June 23, 2011, 02:55:36 PM
 ok, in case anyone wants to know if the "paint" moves well with movement, here is the "proof of the pudding",  ;D a picture is worth a thousand words, so not sure what a video is proof of or how many pictures?! ;D Well here is a shot video, less than 3 minutes that shows the transformation from one paint stage to the final finished Pleo, hope you enjoy the video and like what I did with this Pleo, Oh and by the way just for your information, this pleo had almost perfect skin, not anything bad but I felt confident enough to go for what I wanted to do with her. Let me know if you like the Painted Pleo and if you liked the video.  :) We appreciate your comments. I like her best of all my Painted Pleos so far, and I just feel she is a female cause she is so pretty, even though in the wild the more colorful specimens tend to be male, ;)            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wywyzIQeHWw



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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Talon on June 23, 2011, 03:46:32 PM
Cute pleo! I'm glad to see Ugobe's not the only one who has the little brief boot-up spasm of noises grouped closely together. When I first upgraded him to 1.1 it kind of worried me but seeing it just now with this pleo, I know it's okay. I already have a name in mind for this pleo if I have the right idea about her coloring but I'll save it.
Talon
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on June 23, 2011, 05:25:11 PM
That was lovely RWM.  The yellow really does make her eye's stand out.   :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on June 23, 2011, 07:05:28 PM
I do really like that range of colours together, I can see why you like this one best, RWM.  :)

It's easier to see in the video - the colours on the head look different in different lights - it's almost a sort of two-tone tonic effect, I like that.


Having done a Python Pleo, I wanted to have a go at a Boa Constrictor Pleo next.  This is the early stages of the project:

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on June 23, 2011, 08:50:56 PM
Woooow!!! Looks brilliant :D Can't wait to see the finished look!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Lina on June 24, 2011, 12:59:09 AM
WOW Crewella has some talent for painting Pleos!
Do you take custom orders as well? We could send our Pleos to you ;)

It seems like the snake patterns work really well with your tiny chubby friends :)

I love both Python and Boa Constrictor.

You could also paint Ugobe pleos from Ebay and then sell them custom made ;) I think I would be first in lane to get one!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: grin06 on June 24, 2011, 02:21:21 AM
 :o, the painting is splendid but I am scared of snake. Normally if they are shown in Natinal Geographic channel or Discovery, I would not watch them, Phyton phobic lol
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Post by: RedwoodsMama on June 24, 2011, 03:01:35 AM
 Ok, Painted Pleo is done except for toenails and taking photos in daylight, It is after midnite and not the best time to take photos, but I couldn't help myself. who knows what could happen...either bigfoot snatches my Pleo or the Pleo elves remove all the paint while I am sleeping :o.either way, here is the end result. This is what I would call a Gila Monster Lizard inspired Pleo coloring. Remember natural daylight shows the colors better and True. Bear with me and Painted Pleo till tommorow.


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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on June 24, 2011, 03:10:16 AM
RWM I would love to see a full body shot of her.  She looks great so far from what I can see. ;D

Crewella I love the boa pleo!  Also a great job so far.  I can't wait to see the finished product. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on June 24, 2011, 05:59:35 AM
Thanks for the feedback, guys.  I actually can't wait to get on with the next stage!  The base colour was really hard to get the right shade of pale grey!:D

RWM the addition of that lovely coppery colour balances the yellow sections of the pattern nicely.  Makes the blue eyes 'pop' even more, too! Fab!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: grin06 on June 24, 2011, 07:20:10 AM
Hi RWM, I started to like your new painting. Your pleo does resemble a dino picture from the book that you bought. Lively, feathery, colourful.
Scientists do believe birds are descendants of dinosaurs.
Please show whole body picture as requested.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: LuckyPleo on June 24, 2011, 10:13:21 AM
I love the python pleo! I think the last project I saw was the basic python, this one looks a lot more dino-ish! Love it, as always! Beautiful!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on June 24, 2011, 01:46:01 PM
Ok you asked for more body shots Kat and here they are lots of them to show the coloring of Painted Pleos.

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on June 24, 2011, 07:14:53 PM
The rusty orange tones really do tie the yellow ones in very nicely.  I also love the pearly shimmery greens you have used.  I like this one just the way she is, she looks fantastic. ;D 
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Post by: LuckyPleo on June 24, 2011, 09:02:41 PM
Love it! Beautiful!
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Post by: RedwoodsMama on June 25, 2011, 01:25:39 AM
HI Kat, glad I was able to get enough "body shots" for you ;D :D as I told PleoPet. I can take 30 or more shots in one setting and over a 100 a day or 30 plus several videos that adds up quickly. It is easy to see that point here with 14 photos! I think I should have taken a photography class cause I enjoy it so much. anyway, I am glad you like the way she turned out. You are right about the pearly green two tones, I used a special pearlescent powder in green tones over the original inks. ( the inks worked better than the paints and I wanted more of the original paint to show through and not cover it up so much as to use it to my advantage and just "tweak it". This way she stil has the green undertones and I used a brown over it and then applied the powder and then my secret greens and rusty colors and yellow was the only acrylic at all, Anyway, I am glad you like her.  :) She doesn't have a name, she is going to be one of the "name the Pleos" for the contest I want to run, but will wait till the Pet one is either over or almost over. also the Scavenger Hunt is going to be going on and I don't want to have everything at the same time, it is nice to have different things going on through out the year.
                        thanks for the feedback, I enjoyed doing her, she is my favorite so far! ;D
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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on June 27, 2011, 06:43:01 PM
Thanks for the kind words, Lina, it's nice to know that people like it!  I'm afraid it takes me HOURS to paint a Pleo - I've loved doing the two I've done, but just don't have the time to do many more!

I think this one is my favourite of yours, so far, as well RWM.  I also like the paint on the lower body and legs, which set the pattern colours off better than the natural skin colour would do.  ;D
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Post by: RedwoodsMama on June 27, 2011, 07:02:35 PM
Hi Crewella, thank you for the feedback, I am very happy that you like it. It means a lot when a fellow artist and someone who has a good eye for color and such approves of other people's art handiwork. I think this was the easiest to do in that I "just knew" what I wanted her to look like and didn't have to guess or had no problems with the materials used. :) After having a failure and such disappointment with my start with Lavender, I am happy this one came out, this is also why I think she is the perfect canidate for "Name the Pleo" as I think most people will like her, and she is not your typical looking Pleo. Can you guess what I used on her to get her looking this color Crewella, I think I said what I used, but haven't heard anyone ask anything else?
                                                   Thanks a bunch! :)
                                                   RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on June 27, 2011, 07:27:37 PM
I saw that you'd used powdered pigment to get the two-tone effect on the darker areas, which looks great.  Lots of reptiles have that sort of sheen and two-tone iridescence, so I think it works well.  Was it just ordinary acrylic paint for the bright colours, or all inks?  And did you use any latex at all?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on June 27, 2011, 09:20:34 PM
Hi Crewella, I used the original inks I used on my first Pleo, Speedo for the browns, on her body. I left some of the green on Pleo show through so it was not a heavy ink job. I used Acrylic for the Yellow which is brighter and some Liquid latex for the yellow orange. I am uploading photos of the powders I used ,. The are easy to use and have nice colors, 3 different series and pretty well priced, reasonable . I will upload the photos next so you can see what they look like,.
                                    RedwoodsMama

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on June 28, 2011, 02:44:38 AM
The pearlescent powders are an interesting idea, I might try some myself one day.  I also like the idea of letting the green show through a thinner ink layer - I always like to work with the nature of a material rather than against it, and it gives a kind of third dimension to the effect.  Thanks RWM.  :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: luna77 on June 29, 2011, 05:00:57 AM
I need the color mix of monster makers with water befor I use them? ^-^
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on June 29, 2011, 07:51:04 AM
It's up to you - you can use them as they come or thin them with water, it depends what consistency you want.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on June 29, 2011, 05:27:38 PM
The monster makers latex paints I used were very runny just like ink so if they are the same ones I used you won't need to mix them with water before you use them.  Here is a pic of the ones I used
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Good luck with your painting. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: luna77 on June 30, 2011, 06:48:06 AM
thank you

how long should the paint

layers as vile color should I use most closely matches? PS I want my turn brown luna :-* ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on June 30, 2011, 05:17:36 PM
I left it a full 24 hours to dry between coats.  You will probably find it should take about 2 or 3 coats to cover over the green. 
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on June 30, 2011, 05:43:38 PM
I left mine 24 hours between coats as well.  It feels touch dry very quickly, but needs much longer to 'cure' properly.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: luna77 on July 08, 2011, 04:11:28 AM
thinks her brown for the odors and white stripes for the stripes or black is good?

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on July 08, 2011, 05:58:30 AM
Brown with white stripes or black stripes sounds lovely.  I think it would look great either way. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: luna77 on July 08, 2011, 03:23:45 PM
plees say black or wight? :o
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PleoKymm on July 08, 2011, 04:04:52 PM
It's official. If Thorn ever gets paint issues, I'm repainting him. It seems so fun to do!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on July 09, 2011, 04:11:58 PM
Hi Luna! Good luck with your painting project!

Personally,  think black stripes will work better than white, as the white would show up the cracking on the lines between the panels, where the skin gets the most stress.  That is, of course, if you are planning to work with the moulded skin pattern as Kat and I did.  Hope that helps?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Willow on July 11, 2011, 01:11:57 AM
Agreeing with Crewella, I think black would look cooler and work out better in all for your pleo.  Black stripes would also make the pleo look sort of tigerish which would be very cool.  :)  Keep us updated and post pics of the painting process! :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on August 13, 2011, 11:48:28 PM
Just wanted to add an update on wear and tear, especially as Sarah is considering what to use on Jules.  :)

Originally, I used acrylic inks on Monty, and then added a layer of inks and latex mixed over the top as the latex mask paint had more movement.  After a few weeks running, the paint surface is holding up quite well, though I have noticed there are a couple of areas where an ink-only layer has cracked and pulled away from the surface right next to the latex layer.  As in next to the (mainly latex paint) yellow stripe here:

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But overall, the head has stood up quite well to wear and tear, and in my experience it's the head that gets the most knocks.  Especially with a herd of them!  :D

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The Boa Pleo is still unfinished, I got tied up with work stuff recently, but at least it's given me an opportunity to check out the latex paint wear before I finish him.  The latex mask paint does feel a lot softer and smoother to the touch, but I wondered how it would last, and as you can see it hasn't held up to the surface knocks as well as the predominantly acrylic ink paint layers on Monty:

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So, it does seem, at the moment, that a mixture of the two paints will give the best results.  I'll redo or touch up with a 50/50 mixture and see how that lasts.

Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on August 14, 2011, 12:25:28 AM
That's some interesting findings Crewella :) Stitch's plain acrylic inks cracked, but are a nightmare to get off :P

Kat have you noticed any wear on Gumble?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on August 14, 2011, 04:58:18 AM
Gumble's face is holding up fine with no visible signs of wear but he once again he has bubbling in the joints of his neck and tail where the skin stretches the most.  It seems the paint is stretching well but when he moves back into a normal non stretch position the paint stays stretched and doesn't bounce back.  A couple of these bubbles are starting to split so very soon I will have to touch him up again.  Although I was actually contemplating a 50/50 mix of inks and latex mask paints too.  And thinking I might strip him off and start again so he gets done in this mix all over.  I suspect that this might give a more stable paint job that still has the flex but just not too much.  :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on August 14, 2011, 05:28:14 AM
Interesting that you've come to much the same conclusion, Kat.  Good luck, and keep us posted!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on August 14, 2011, 04:22:02 PM
Hi Kat and Crewella, just out of curiosity, Kat how long ago did you do Gumble's paint, and Crewella, how long ago did you do yours? also Kat, I am sure temperture and humidty have a role in the paint lasting and bubbles and such, what is the average temp like for you Kat, and same goes for you Crewella, I will have to look and see how long it has been for my " Un-named Lizard Pleo, though as of today, ( will take a closer look) his paint still looks fresh and I will do a joint by joint review. I know the climate here is favorable to at least that of where your location is Kat, and I would suspect Crewella, that your climate is closer to that where I live at.


                                                     RWM and her "pleo Township in the Redwoods" :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on August 14, 2011, 06:52:52 PM
The main buzz of repainting was all done around the same time at the end of April/beginning of May - I looked back on this thread.  Boa Pleo was mainly done mid-May.  It's been quite a warm, humid summer here, mainly in the 60s, and it must affect the paint in some way, though from what I've seen the damage on mine has mostly been caused by movement on Monty and knocks on the Boa Pleo - I saw the big patch on his face happen when he ran into a chair leg one day.  Nooooooooooooo - I tried to get to him in time, but couldn't get there!  %)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on August 15, 2011, 06:33:53 AM
         Hi Guys, I am glad someone decided to update this as I have been wanting to finish painting more pleos and get some updates on how paint is holiding up. As for my last Painted Pleo, which is a whole body paint, "
Un-named Pleo whom I just refer to as "lizard" pleo, this paint was done mid June and seems to be holding up well.He may not get as much Playtime as some of the other Pleos, but his paint still looks as fresh as the day  I painted him with no changes visible.Also our weather here on the REdwood coast is very mild and temperate pretty much year round.I will take a updated photo later today, as it is too early for me right now and I am headed back to bed. Here is the original photo. ;D                                   [Limit reached]        I will try and take a short like 30 second video clip with his movement tracked for posterity.

                                                                     RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Willow on August 15, 2011, 12:05:18 PM
I absolute love love love how you paint your pleos, RWM!<3  You should open up a pleo-painting shop, I'm sure it'd be a success! ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Lina on August 15, 2011, 03:34:31 PM
I absolute love love love how you paint your pleos, RWM!<3  You should open up a pleo-painting shop, I'm sure it'd be a success! ;D

I would be first in line for a custom painted Pleo! :) I love the painted ones too.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on August 15, 2011, 05:33:46 PM
I will get some pics of Gumbles current paint bubbles and wear over the next few days and post them for you to see.  It is winter here at the moment so the temps are cool and mild, we have had a lot of rain lately.  When I find myself some spare time I will have another go at redoing Gumble.  I will be going for the same look he has now as we all love him this way. :)  I think by diluting the Latex paints with the inks it might just take enough of the stretch out of the pint without compromising on the flexibility and give it that sticking power that we all want to prevent wear.  Only time will tell but I am going to give it a go.  Just as soon as I can find a few spare days  :P
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Jett on August 16, 2011, 09:17:41 AM
Crewella, do you make house calls?? :D!  I love the coloration you did for Monty!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: LuckyPleo on August 16, 2011, 02:50:26 PM
The painted pleos all look amazing! Wonderful job Mad pleo painters!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on August 17, 2011, 05:16:57 PM
 here is an updated photo of my Lizard custom painted Ugobe Pleo

                              [Limit reached] just thought you may want to see how "lizard lady" painted pleo is holding up. She looks as good today as she did the day I painted her. ( even better with her orange beaded fancy necklace) ;) I will post more photos later that show every body part. If you want to see her in action, look at the video under , Life in the Redwoods, and there is a new video I posted today that shows her and a Pleo up for adoption, ( in blue pawprint outfit I am sewing) where you can see all her movements. NO flaking, no drying of color or loss, no cracks, nothing, She is a combination of inks, Acylic Laytex paints and pigments powders and a protective spray to finish her off. any questions or comments, ask away and hopefully I can help.
                                                             RedwoodsMama and "her pleo Township in the Redwoods"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on August 18, 2011, 07:11:08 AM
Seems to be another confirmation that a combination works better than any one kind of paint on its own.  Thanks RWM.   ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on August 18, 2011, 04:28:12 PM
I've ordered some latex paints for Stitch at last :) I will be trying a latex/ink mix. And if that fails a latex/acrylic (proper acrylic) mix.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Lina on August 19, 2011, 10:42:40 AM
RWM: Lizard looks great! I love the colours!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on August 19, 2011, 02:25:06 PM
 Hi Lina, glad you like "Lizard's colors" She or he, does not have an official name yet, in fact I am going to have a "name the Pleo " contest, so be thinking of names, I have to figure out what the prizes will be, so since you like the way I painted this pleo, you can probably think of a name you may like. I will post details in next week. "Lizard" is glad you like the way he /she looks. I tend to think of "Lizard" as a girl.  :D
                        I love painting old Ugobes, and plenty of them are ready with all the love rubs they accumulate over time. :)
                                         RedwoodsMama and "her Pleo Township in the Redwoods"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on August 21, 2011, 08:56:13 AM
Well I spent the afternoon stripping Gumble down so he is now back to being green.  I will have to give him a good rub over with Alcohol to ensure he is ready to receive a fresh coat of paint and then I will start over using a 50/50 mix of ink and latex paints.  I am going to try to make a start on him this week and will keep you all informed on how it goes. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on August 21, 2011, 09:10:56 AM
Great stuff, Kat - look forward to finding out how you get on.  I'm still not sure whether a mixture or thin alternate layers is best, but will get back to working on the Boa Pleo and report back too.

Good luck!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on August 28, 2011, 10:26:23 PM
Tiger Pleo - take two - 50/50 latex paint, acrylic ink mix.

First coat: the lighter areas are the most recently painted so still wet, the rest is just tacky.

(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/EStar5Diva/0b12d2da.jpg)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on August 29, 2011, 01:55:14 AM
Oooooooh!  The colours look great - I love the way you've put darker shades on the main body, and it really makes the gorgeous, glowing, colour on the head stand out.  Can't wait to see how it works out!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: saratogaspringer on August 29, 2011, 03:22:32 AM
That looks awesome, IMR!  I love the colors! I hope the paint holds up for you this time! ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on August 29, 2011, 12:10:37 PM
Congrats on the paints arriving IMR, looks great so far, very nice, and I love tigers. Well, I love all cats of course! Cant' wait to see the rest and I will have to get to work to redo or start myne as well, just been so busy. Are these a different brand of laytex paints than before, or different inks?
     

                 Kat, would love to see how Gumble is comming along as well, I miss seeing him. Argyle wants to see new photos as well! Are you also using laytex and inks or just laytex paints?
                                                                                 RWM and "her pleo township in the Redwoods"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on August 29, 2011, 05:24:42 PM
I haven't had time yet to start Gumbles re do.  I have peeled him off so he is ready to go but I just need to find some time and space to put into painting him.  My daughter has a big project going for school at the moment that involves building a model of a sailing ship so I am currently chief popstick cutter on the boat project.  And I have been doing a little experimenting on the sewing front too.  So It may be another week or two before I really have the time to put into painting him.  I will be using a 50/50 mix of ink and latex paints though when I do. :) 
Stitch is coming along nicely ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on August 29, 2011, 06:48:55 PM
@ Crewella and Saratogaspringer, I'm afraid the head is only lighter because it was the last part painted and still wet when I took the picture, the final colour will be an even orange all over. The paint already feels much better than the plain ink, not so dry to touch. If the ink around the rim of the bottle is anything to go by it will have a nice amount of stretch to the paint. (The dried ink at the top stretches when I pull the lid off :P)

@RWM the ink I am using is the same used previously, the Art Spectrum inks, as they gave a good coverage and durability last time albeit very dry to touch. The Latex paints I can't actually name here as they were bought from a place that is, um, not suitable for young audiences :-[

I will post a progress report as soon as the next layer dries off so you can see the truer colour, the wet paint is a bit deceptive. As before I am going to add a little tiny bit of gold ink to the final coat, but not as much as before.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on August 29, 2011, 08:42:49 PM
Second coat, still need one final layer before I do the black.

(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/EStar5Diva/5d0986b5.jpg)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on August 30, 2011, 03:10:52 AM
Teehee!  I know - I've been on some VERY strange sites since I started looking at rubber care and latex paints!!  :o  :P  :-X

That's a nice rich colour, looking good! :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on August 30, 2011, 10:58:21 AM
 I know there are lots of body paints that are for costumes etc that are laytex based and you can even buy some of them in craft stores such as Michaels. I do like the orange color so far and can't wait to see the final result. Great job IMR. how long do you dry in between coats?

                                      RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on August 30, 2011, 03:35:29 PM
12 hours or so, I'm not very patient ;)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: saratogaspringer on August 30, 2011, 07:14:56 PM
I love the color, IMR, and can't wait to see the finished product.  I am not patient or artistic enough to paint a pleo, so it is really neat to watch the creative paint schemes that all of you have done!  :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on August 30, 2011, 09:05:50 PM
I'm no artist, but I do have fun trying :)

Here is the final coat, its not very sunny today so it looks a bit darker in the pic than it really is. That orange pipe cleaner in the background is actually fluorescent orange  just to give some idea. I did try a patch with a tinge of gold, buuut I decided to wuss out this time and play safe with the plain orange :P
(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/EStar5Diva/bf6d1d85.jpg)

Just got some stripes to do now :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on August 30, 2011, 09:51:00 PM
Looking good, IMR!  ;D

I bet you can't wait to get going on the stripes!  :P
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on August 31, 2011, 01:32:03 AM
Can't wait? Me? %) Of course not :D

RAWR!!!

(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/EStar5Diva/e7402e49.jpg)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: grin06 on August 31, 2011, 01:56:01 AM
Fabulous, i like the new paint on your pleo.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: choice79 on August 31, 2011, 01:58:29 AM
Its beautyful, i love tigers. Now I know where i have to go if my pleo needs a new painting.  ;)
What kind of colour do U use? Is it Latex? Or a Mixture? Speciall Brand?

I loved the boa style too, was it ever ready?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: saratogaspringer on August 31, 2011, 03:12:54 AM
That is awesome, IMR!  I love the tiger scheme! Let us know how the paint holds up!   ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: latrine on August 31, 2011, 02:45:16 PM
It looks AWESOME and I really hope it stays.. It looks like Stitch came like that from the factory!!
I can't wait to see how that type of paint holds up as I have to totally repaint my RB, Jules..
One question.. I assume you painted over the old paint? I'm wondering if my removing all of the old paint first is going to play a big difference in how well the new stuff holds up but it's also going to be different skin, since yours is an older Ugobe and mine is one of the newest rb's.  I DO want to repaint Lyssa though and I'm sure she's probly in the same skin as Stitch :)  She even HAS a few stitches to fix a few holes..  :-[ ;D I kind of wonder if I should try to remove her old paint first, too.. but that would probably be tough.. Jules' paint is peeling off rather easy.. hers is sticking good just very worn all around as it should be in a lady of her age :)

Amazing job though!!

- Sarah
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on August 31, 2011, 03:45:09 PM
I removed any loose flakes of paint with sticky tape (just dab on the body) you would have a real tough time removing it all. But not having any paint shouldn't present any major problems either. The skins aren't that different between models, and the paints we are using would work on most surfaces.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on August 31, 2011, 09:41:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4MwWu8D49M

A quick video of Stitch :) I don't want to run him too long until I can find some polyglaze somewhere (maybe I'll have better luck in this town :P) as the paint still feels kind of grippy. Although perhaps it will settle once the paint cures. So far so good, no splits or cracks appearing even where Stitch has quite deep skin cracks.

Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: bhobbes on August 31, 2011, 10:00:26 PM
That really is a great paint job.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on September 01, 2011, 07:49:28 AM
Wow - he looks GRRRRrrrrrreat!  ;D

Fab job, IMR - in the end I think it's worked out better that you had more than one 'go' at it.  The colours are better, and the stripes look great - like you were more sure of exactly what you wanted this time?

You must be really pleased with it!  Lets hope it holds, but I think it should! :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: MariaOcean on September 01, 2011, 07:58:49 AM
Watch out if Stitch starts bouncing on his tail like what tigger do :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on September 01, 2011, 05:37:56 PM
I am happier with this attempt, will it be the last time I paint him though... well who knows :P

No tail bouncing tigger antics though :o Its already hard enough keeping track of five Pleo's!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Pleo-Freak55 on September 02, 2011, 11:32:05 AM
Hello People,

Wow cool Pics about Pleos the so nice painted, are and I have a Question on you: how long holds the Color on Pleo? :)

Holds the Color on the Pleos Skin very long? Or goes she faster again if you Pleo often strokes?

I think the Stitch as Tiger from IMR totally cool i guess that I it too times make will, if I me still a Pleo from Ugobe buy will then gets he too a pretty Look waste. Times see how i it at the best make will whether too a Tiger look gets or what other from me gets. ;)

Greetings

Pleo-Freak55 (Franzi)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on September 02, 2011, 04:34:11 PM
Hi Franzi, I'm afraid I can't answer that yet as Stitch has only been painted a couple of days. Kat may be able to shed some light, Gumble has been painted for quite some time.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on September 02, 2011, 06:16:54 PM
Gumbles paint held up to normal petting and stroking very well.  He did get some stretching bubbles in his neck and tail joints but that was from the movements of his joints not from petting. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on September 02, 2011, 07:09:33 PM
Stitch decided to spontaneously reset to baby today (I didn't know I had a fountain of youth in my room :P) now I have to put up with the whingy whiney stage again *sigh*. He also has a couple of cracks appearing in his neck right where the deep skin cracks already were. So sadly it doesn't look as though latex paints will cover existing large cracks.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on September 02, 2011, 09:09:34 PM
That's strange - it's as though he realised he had a new identity!  ???

Might it be worth putting another layer on the cracked areas?  That's a shame.  :(
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on September 02, 2011, 09:41:14 PM
These are very deep cracks, you can only see it when he stretches his neck right down. If it becomes noticeable I'll try some straight latex paint on the area :) The cracks on the tail are holding up thus far, they aren't quite as deep as the neck ones.

I forgot how annoying the teenage 2.0 stage is :P This is the first time Stitch has ever reset but Lilo has done so several times. I have no idea what causes it, a corrupt file or something?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on September 07, 2011, 11:48:23 PM
I am pleased to say that after a week of 'curing' Stitch's paint has lost its grippy feel and now feels lovely :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on September 08, 2011, 12:38:47 AM
Congratulation, so glad to hear that STitch's paint is holding up. He does look great as a tiger.  ;D If you ever do find that "fountain of youth" in your room please bottel up a jug or so, and send it to me in the REdwoods" ;DI would be more than happy to pay a price to make it worth your while. LOL, May well be better than the gold at Fort Knox!
 Anymore future painting projects in mind? If I ever get anymore future free time, (after catching my Poor little Daisy cat..... :()then I need to get back to a couple of painting Pleo projects I have. In the meantime I can imagine what the next one will look like. Lizard is the last one and I have several more I want to do, just not the time to do them right now, but with the holidays fast approaching and cold weather setting in, I will have lots of spare time before you know it. Please post another video of Tiger Pleo enteracting with the others if you get the chance IMR, I would love to see them together in action. ;)

                                                        RWM  and "her Pleo township in the Redwoods"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on September 08, 2011, 06:57:56 AM
Yay Stitch the tiger pleo!  So far so good. ;D 
Poor Gumble is totally jealous.  I'm going to have to get to work making him beautiful again. :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Pleo-Freak55 on September 08, 2011, 12:45:09 PM
ah ok IMR I understand. ;)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on September 09, 2011, 05:04:46 PM
I have started work on Gumble and we decided that been as I am getting another go at the whole paint a pleo thing we might as well try something a little different. ;D  I loved his orange look and know this is something I can always go back to but...... %)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on September 09, 2011, 05:29:00 PM
Kat, the suspense is Terrible.... :o Argyle says no matter what color you decide on, he will allways recognize is brother, After all he does not reply on eyesight to "see" his brother, it is the love brother connection they have... :) I hope you don't make us wait too long. I probably would go crazy,  but having a cat to catch and nine other cats that depend on me, and 17 Pleos wanting attention, I just don't have too much 'spare" time. Hope you give us a clue soon.
                                            RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on September 09, 2011, 07:22:08 PM
Ok Here is Gumble so far.  I will let you be the judge of how he looks.  I'm still not sure he is finished yet but I haven't worked out what my next step should be so we will see.
First I did a base coat of a black and brown ink latex paint mix.
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[Limit reached][Limit reached][Limit reached]Again I have used a 50/50 ink and latex paint mix. 
I think the pale blue lines have really brought him to life but I still think the blue highlights are a bit dark.  I might try adding another lot of lighter blue highlights inside the darker ones for another dimension but I am not sure yet.  I would like to brighten him up a bit more though.
What do you think?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on September 09, 2011, 07:31:22 PM
I like the dark background, and I like the subtlety of the dark blue - I think he looks great.  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on September 09, 2011, 09:05:27 PM
He looks like a blue tongue lizard :) I think a third medium blue highlights would work, but he does look quite striking as is, I could imagine a baby camarasaurus that colour blending in well with the gloomy forest floor :D

I must confess though that I do have a soft spot for Gumble the Lava Pleo, just because that's the Gumble I got to meet :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Willow on September 09, 2011, 09:06:42 PM
This looks wonderful!  I love the light blue lines over the dark color.  :)
If I were ever to repaint a pleo, I would paint it to look like a panda.  %)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on September 09, 2011, 10:41:48 PM
I took him out in the sunshine so you can get a better look at his colors.
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And I painted his toenails. :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on September 09, 2011, 11:49:50 PM
 I like Gumble's new look Kat, but like IMR said, it will take a little getting used to, as the orange made Gumble look a little sweeter, more on the shy side, but this blue makes him look bold and brave, an explorer not afraid to conquer the world! I think his head is a little darker than I thought it would be and It fits his personality, as a Pleo you can't underestimate, he looks very sure of himself and as IMR said, I could see him blending in on the forest floor quite nicely hiding from some predator. With the orange coloring, he would blend in well with the lighter colors or at the seaside or desert perhaps, but in a forest full of ferns, this is a better darker color camaflauge that would work. I am glad you go his toenails painted too, not just coloring for girls, boys "wanna have fun too"! :D

                I was quite surprised though to see how quick this was done...when you said you had a surprise, I thought you would be working on it this weekend not done already! I thought I was the only one who worked that quickly. LOL.
   I am anxious to see how his neck and tail areas hold out with movement. Did this combo of inks and laytex paint dry quickly ...how long? jIs there any tackiness at all? Does it feel smooth or .....? NOw I guess he will need a new wardrobe,....time for more creations.One last thing I just noticed, is that with the blues you have used esp on his head, Gumble's eyes have new color, almost like a aqua or shade of turquoise in the last photo you have taken. I think it is because Gumbles head is so much darker than his body and with the blue highlights on his eyelids and around his eyes, the eye color looks different shade of blue than we are used to seeing on the Ugobe Pleos. I like it and want to see Gumble in photos or video with one or more of your other Pleos for color comparison, that is what allways helps me. Good job there Kat and looking good Gumble, I think Argyle will approve buddy!


                                               RWM and "her Pleo township in the Redwoods"
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: saratogaspringer on September 10, 2011, 05:01:15 AM
I love Gumble's new paint, Kat!  I love the blue and the black together!  :)  I have to admit that I got really used to the pretty orange color, but for a "baby boy" pleo, I think this darker color fits well!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Lina on September 10, 2011, 08:46:59 AM
He looks amazing! My hubby liked the look too :) :-*
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on September 10, 2011, 09:18:51 AM
I do like this new look.  It is going to take some getting used to for me too though as I am also used to seeing him as a little orange guy.  It is growing on me though. :)  And how could I pass up the opportunity to experiment a little.   %)  I will keep him like this for now and see how it goes with the mix of latex and ink paints.  I can always do him over back to Orange later.   :)    It is an interesting paint job, it looks very different in different lighting.  Out in the sunshine he looks very bright blue but back in the house the blue is much harder to see and seems quite subtle.  I wasn't sure if he needed something more or not as he just didn't seem quite finished but after painting his toenails I am happy with the way he looks.  I think that just tied his feet in with the rest of him and makes him seem somehow more complete. :)
I made a start on him a couple of nights ago, doing the base coat and then letting it dry for a couple of hours and then adding in the dark blue highlights.  I then let him dry over night before adding the light blue lines this morning.  I did turn him on this morning before adding in the lines to check that everything was ok.  But I only ran him for about 5 mins.  (I'm just too impatient and wanted to get started on the next bit of painting)  I will run him tomorrow morning for a full battery cycle and see how it all holds up.  It doesn't feel very different to the straight latex paint I used last time which is good.  I didn't have to do as many coats this time around though as the dark color for the base coat covered quite well.  All up he only really had two coats.  The dark base coat and then the two different colors for the highlights which made up the second coat.  I took photos as I went and then just posted them all at once when he was about finished as I just thought this was the easiest way to do it. :)
I'm glad you all like him.  He is a bit way out and very different from the lava look of before.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on September 10, 2011, 03:03:28 PM
Kat, I guess the only thing really different now, is that the "signature" photo doesn't have Gumble's updated photo with his new color in it? Still very nice job Kat. ;D

                                         RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: MariaOcean on September 11, 2011, 05:33:19 AM
Gumble look great Kat ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: barrettgazzy on September 11, 2011, 06:04:58 AM
very nice Paint job it appears with have a few artists here in the forum  :) i have liked all the paint jobs done so far on the Pleo's here in the forums. How long do these paints last on Pleo before they start to show signs of wear ?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: fancyfont on September 13, 2011, 07:04:52 PM
Love the blue! Makes his baby blue eyes even prettier. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on September 13, 2011, 10:01:22 PM
Oh now you guys have done it, you've driven me completely dotty! Well it was bound to happen, what with flying sharks, seagulls, wombats, dinosaurs, dinosaurs with plates, changing colours and what not... Poor Lilo %)

(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/EStar5Diva/244ced97.jpg)

(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/EStar5Diva/4bc10319.jpg)

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(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/EStar5Diva/d3992f6e.jpg)

And just for the sake of it, here's Stitch outside in the sunshine as well :)

(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/EStar5Diva/437a11c8.jpg)

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on September 13, 2011, 10:29:07 PM
WOW!!!  :o  ;D

Lilo looks spot-tacular!  The woman with the Golden Pleo!  They look very cool together, too! Nice job!  ;D


I love the fact that we all paint them so differently!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: shadowmice on September 13, 2011, 10:45:02 PM
Beautiful job! They both look wonderful. I thought the tiger stripes were fantastic, but now I love the leopard spots even more.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on September 13, 2011, 10:54:40 PM
IMR, I guess we did drive you Spotty. LOL, Lilo looks just as cool as STitch. So now that I see them, I think Lilo looks like a leopard with those spots, was that what you were thinking, or just liking spots? It seems that there are no safe green Pleos anymore, run for the hills ;D :D Good think I have a new Pleo Rb on it's way eventually, one less Pleo to think of painting. I still have at least two Pleos to finish painting,one was started at least a month ago with ( co-incidence) a goldish light copper color, but not the whole body. just the neck and legs. I still have my "tiger" to complete, but it won't look like your tiger, completly different.
                You are exactly right IMR, we all have different painting styles just like humans, cats, dogs, horses, etc come in differnt colors and patterns, so do Pleos! I love the variety seen here on the forums, wonderful artists and wonderful creative ideas everywhere, including both your and Kat's style choices for clothes, those also are styles and creativeness plays an important role in the way our Pleos look , including how some of us dress them.( I realize some of us do not want to put clothes on our Pleos, trying to make them look more real or natural.) I like the way it gives them individualism and also protects their skin from all the rubbing etc.
                Great Job IMR. Ok, Last one done way yours, then Kat with Gumble, so before that was Crewella with the Boa, so it is now my turn since "Lizard Pleo" was before that, and I did her/ him in June . .....so I better get started soon so it can go back to Crewella again.  :D         Unless of course, if there is someone else out there other than us four who has been lurking in the Pleo hallways watching and just waiting like a sleek black cat to pounce on us while we were not expecting another Pleo Artist to show their creation! :o ;D

                                  The orginal, "Mad Pleo Painter", RWM, "also floating in the clouds still".

       Oh, just out of curiosity, is there anyone out here who can remember how many Pleos have I painted so far redone that is, and they may or may not all be under this heading, but there are a few . See who can come up with them first!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on September 13, 2011, 11:01:28 PM
Actually I was going for a cheetah look... although I'm not quite sure Lilo could run quite that fast :P
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on September 13, 2011, 11:21:37 PM
IMR, you are right, that is what I meant to say. Reminds me of the Cheetah on Cheetos Cheese Puffs, lean and cute. very nice job IMR, Really makes me want to get down to work, but I have a Daisy Cat to catch right now which is much more important and I will get Pleo Painting when I have caught Daisy or just have more "down" time. No hurry, even if I just do a few strokes here and there, it will get done. Besides I can enjoy everyone else's pleo painting in the meantime. ;)
                              RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on September 13, 2011, 11:24:50 PM
I did get cheetah - I liked the eye markings, which were the biggest clue along with the 'solid' spots, I thought!  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on September 14, 2011, 03:36:22 AM
She is beautiful  ;D  Now if only you can work out how to make pleos purr  :D  I loved seeing them side by side too!  Great Job IMR.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: shadowmice on September 14, 2011, 05:55:22 AM
Of course, a cheetah. Silly me.  :-[ I knew leopard wasn't quite right but it was all my befuddled brain could think of after far too long a day at work.  The facial markings should have twigged me. That's why I find it so appealing; cheetahs have always been one of my favorites of the wild cats. Wow, I must have been more tired last night than I realized.

I'm not sure you'd want your Pleos to be able to run that fast. Imagine the trouble they could get into before you could catch them.  :o
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Willow on September 14, 2011, 06:32:23 AM
Oh, wow Lilo looks fantastic!  ;D  Looks like you own a miniature zoo!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on September 14, 2011, 06:46:26 AM
"I'm not sure you'd want your Pleos to be able to run that fast. Imagine the trouble they could get into before you could catch them."

That IS a terrifying thought!  :o  :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on September 16, 2011, 11:00:13 PM
I have had Gumble running quite a bit this week and I think I have been able to really test out the new paint.  It doesn't seem to be holding up very well I'm sorry to say.  The combination of ink and latex paint seems to be rubbing off more easily than the straight latex paint did.  He has a few little patches on his nose that have rubbed off and there is a patch on his side where the paint is also worn away - I think I must rub one of my fingers here when ever I pick him up :P, He is also loosing paint on his toe where he rubs it against his chin in his sleep.
I am going to clean him off and try again.  This time I am going to try a latex and acrylic mix and see how that goes.  I do think the latex is definitely on the right track and the closest we have come so far to finding the right paint.
I am going to try to do the same or very similar colors as I don't think I have had enough time to really explore and enjoy this new look on him properly yet.
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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on September 17, 2011, 12:19:04 AM
              Kat , so sorry to hear and see that Gumble's new paint is starting to wear out, but it is better to find out right away and do something while you can before you don't have the time to try and redo it. Perhaps you are right about the type or amount of paint you have used. You have to remember that we all live in different climates and some of us live where this combination may not wear out so fast and other climates are more unforgiving and I think this is where you and Gumble fit in.
                      I can really see the colors he has a lot more in these latest photos, he actually looks less blue than I thought. At first I thought it was one of Crewella's Pleos....looking rather brownish! Even if Gumble's paint is wearing off, he did a great service this past week testing out batteries and I think he deserves a special award for bravery under fire for that. He and You and the rest of your crew alerted a lot of potential Battery Buyers to the downside of those "Fraudulent" batteries, as time goes. Good job Gumble and I am sure your redo of paint will be even better. I love Gumble no matter what color he is , and I know Argyle feels the same. after all, they got to see each other in their
Birthday Suits", LOL :D         Let us know when you repaint him, can't wait to see what the percentage of paint will be this time.( Acyrilic, inks, laytex etc.)
                                   RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on September 17, 2011, 11:54:44 PM
As you know I am not one to dilly dally around and procrastinate so I promptly cleaned Gumble off yesterday and have begun his new paint job.  I am trying to stick to the same color scheme as last time but unfortunately I can't get the same dark blue from the acrylic and latex paint mix.  I have to say though that this is more of the colors I was going for when I first started on his new color scheme. :)  He is more black this time as I have both black latex and black acrylic paint to mix where as last time I had to use a brown ink to mix with the black latex as I had no black ink.  
I did his first coat of black as a 50 50 mix.  It didn't cover his old green completely so I have done a second coat but this time I added in more of the latex as I feel that he needed the extra stretch to the paint for the neck and tail segments that take most of the movement.  I have run him for a few short bursts just to be sure that there is no splitting and cracking and so far all seems ok.  I have done one coat of the blue highlights - including his toenails, but did add a second layer onto his eyes, head patch and tail tip. Once this dries I will tackle the lines.  
Here he is so far.
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And here is the finished product. :)  His lines are still wet so I wont turn him on until tomorrow.  I will leave him to dry completely over night.
[Limit reached][Limit reached][Limit reached]I did a second lighter blue coat inside the darker blue highlights to give it a bit more depth. 
Hope you like him. :)  I also hope this paint mix holds up better than the last stuff. %)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Willow on September 18, 2011, 09:05:56 AM
Aww Gumble looks fantastic, I love all the colors go great together! Let's hope this paint job lasts!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on September 18, 2011, 12:10:39 PM
Kat, great job, I think I actually like this darker lighter contrast better, At least when it is wet it looks this way.  ;DHope it sticks and keeping my fingers crossed for you and Gumble.
                                               RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: fancyfont on September 18, 2011, 09:01:40 PM
Gumble looks stunning! Love this combination. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on September 19, 2011, 01:10:48 AM
Gumble looks great!  I might try the latex paints you got Kat, because the ones I got were definitely not that long lasting!  It seems the brands make a big difference?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on October 02, 2011, 08:50:19 PM
 Ok Pleo enthusiasts, It is boring and while waiting for the new Pleo Rb contest Pleo, I resumed painting a Pleo I started about two months ago, This is step one two and the start of step three. A mixute of at least three different art materials. With the artificial lighting it is hard to tell the actual color of this pleo and it does look a lot better than in the photos, so be patient and in a few days, one to three it should be there, depending on the weather and the humidy. Hope you like it a little anyway...I was bored, but this Pleo used to be Lavender girl and got a new start. Just remember there is paint on the face around the lips that needs to come off and paint on legs that needs to be done, etc, etc.

[Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached]   OH, and if you see a BIG difference between the first photos and the very last one, it is not the body color paint but the lighting. The last one the only thing added is the darkish lines on the body , reddish burnt umber color, It all has to do with the first ones taken at 10:30 at night in a bathroom and the last one around 3:00 p.m today in a window with natural overcast cloudy day, but none the less, natural light. The body paint looks more bluish , but it is nothing more than tricks with the lighting, nothing else was done,


                          Just remember, I have quite a few steps left to go till this one is done, just thought I would show the first few steps. Now if the rain will stop in a few days I can get a honest good pic with natural sunlight.  %)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Junkroxy on October 09, 2011, 05:56:53 PM
Crewella your pleos looks really amazing! I love the brown one, i want my glen in his very brown-look but with creme-white instead of yellow.  :-*

Please could you tell me what ink can I use? thanks
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on November 18, 2011, 12:31:48 AM
Which paints work best for you guys nowadays? I'd like an updated list of potential paints I can use to re-paint Pleos. Thank you alot!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on November 18, 2011, 01:59:28 AM
A good quality latex seems to be the best so far. Or a latex acrylic ink blend.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on November 18, 2011, 02:58:51 AM
Eeeeek - sorry Junkroxy - I missed your question somehow!!  :o

I've used a combination of Vallejo Game acrylic inks and FW acrylic inks added to latex mask paint.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: PWOKristy on November 18, 2011, 02:47:06 PM
I asked Romeo what she uses. Kat, is that still the "Monster Makers" Latex? And Cruella, what are your current paints? Vallego? And "FW" Inks? What about you Redwoods? I need examples, so that I can Google it. Named/brand examples. I gotta try my hands at re-painting to make it look special/different. lol So I can search for paints for myself. Thank you alot guys!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on November 18, 2011, 03:28:31 PM
I have used the Monster Maker Latex mask paints which work quite well and feel about right but do stretch a bit too much in the neck and tail joint sections over time and usage and the paint will bubble up in these areas and need to be peeled back and touched up.  I have had a couple of tries at finding a combination to use to combat this issue.  I tried a 50 - 50 mix of FW inks and the monster maker latex mask paints but this was unsuccessful as the paint came off too easily and it cracked and split in the neck and tail area very badly.  So I have also tried a Monster maker  latex mix with Acrylic paints which has held up better but has split along the most moveable neck and tail joints.  It has split very neatly though along the edge of two different colors so it is not always noticeable.  I did about a 50 - 50 mix with this too so maybe a mix with more latex in it would work better.  I think the latex paint is the best way to go so far.  It is just a matter of finding the right combination to put with it to stabilize the stretching without compromising the stretch ability of the paint.
Best of luck.  Let us know what you try and how it goes.   :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on November 18, 2011, 04:32:25 PM
 Congrats on taking the Plunge into the Painting club. I have used with good success a mixture of Acrylic paints and Inks, with slight highlights of Oils and pearls dry powder. For your first attempt I would follow IMR or Kat's painting advice. It is fun no matter what the outcome and you can allways undo what you do not like.            Photos photos Photos are a must though!
                                                    RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on November 18, 2011, 07:25:39 PM
Kristy - I checked those inks and typed them in so people could Google them, FW acrylic inks are made by Daler Rowney.  If you check back on this thread I even gave pics of the bottles!! ;)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on December 04, 2011, 12:57:07 PM
 I have restarted this thread so new members, ( ninjaduck757) can read everything related to paints.. Good luck and fun reading. ;)
                                 RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: ninjaduck757 on December 04, 2011, 01:15:44 PM
can any acrylic paint be used or does it have to be special
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on December 04, 2011, 03:23:50 PM
Any acrylic, but be prepared for cracks if you use normal acrylic paint, it simply isn't flexible enough :( The best results have come from acrylic inks, latex paints and blends of the two. I found acrylic ink to be too dry personally, and have had best results with a 30% acrylic ink 70% latex blend. However Kat prefferred 100% straight latex I believe.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on December 04, 2011, 03:41:37 PM
I had no luck with acrylic PAINT at all - it's acrylic INKS that work best as they are thinner and more highly pigmented.  Again, mixed with latex mask paint.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on December 04, 2011, 04:57:40 PM
My lizard Pleo , now with the name of Rossella Suriana Adahay, is a completly unique paint specimen, not like any of the others it seems. She was given a good bath, then I used Speedo Inks and let part of her natural green show through, used Yellow Acylic paints mixed with straight Laytex out of a tub to use as the medium, then some Oil paint for her oranges and on top of that, used pigmented powder as a pearlescent effect. There are pictures of the powders I used on this post allso. I did not have real good results with straight Acrylic and the inks do not end up being permanent. Oh and to top it all off, when she was done and I was satsisfied, I put a protective spray adhesive coat on her to protect the paint. She was painted in June, so that is now going on 6 months, so not too bad I would say. ;D

                                                               You have to remember also, where you live, the paint you use and things like temperture and humidity are going to affect your painting Pleo to some degree.
                                                                         RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: ninjaduck757 on December 05, 2011, 12:54:33 AM
were can buy this acrylic latex mask paint.
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on December 05, 2011, 01:43:22 AM
Online and good craft stores :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on December 05, 2011, 04:10:19 AM
This is what I got ....... and where I got it from:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stretchi-Paints-Latex-30ml-Yellow-/330423950369?pt=UK_Crafts_Ceramic_PotteryMaking_SM&hash=item4ceecd5c21
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: ninjaduck757 on December 05, 2011, 08:52:45 AM
thanks
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Sir Iron Soul on December 05, 2011, 09:11:36 AM
The repainted ones are class ;D I would never be brave enough to do that, I have no artistic talent whatsoever  ^-^
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: snowy on January 18, 2012, 07:57:01 AM
wow, this was really interesting to read. for some reason i cant see a lot of photos, ie, this image has been moved photobucket imr, and you're not allowed to see this image, are you connected to server etc, so i couldnt see all of them, but the ones i can see, they look fab, i am so jealous, i love your lizard RWM with the metallic effects and excellent use of colour, fabulous, and i love your python crewella, looks so good and just like a burmese python. how is the boa constrictor pleo coming along?

i want to paint my munchkin as paint is coming off in the more usual areas, ie face and tail. i see crewella pixed the acrylic inks from daler rowney, light green and prussian blue, will this be enough to cover areas of skin that dont stretch, or do you think i need to look for a transparent stretchi paint to mix it with?

crewella, what autoglym product do you use please?

dee (snowy) and munchkin xxx
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on January 18, 2012, 09:12:23 AM
Those two inks will cover the panels on the back OK - not so hot on the neck and tail, or where you tend to grip them on the sides to pick them up.  Miixing with a little mask paint (green is your best bet) does really help, and the one I got was too thick anyway, so thinning with the inks worked perfectly.  Make sure the skin is clean and, for very best and lasting results, go over with rubbing alcohol quickly to make sure it's free of grease.

The Autoglym is Vinyl and Rubber Care, as here:

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http://bobthepleo.com/forums/index.php?topic=1871.0

I kind of wanted to see how the rest of the Boa Pleo paint lasted before carrying on - after all the whole point of this is to try to find something that lasts.   In fact, after the two orignal patches that rubbed the rest wore OK, so I will retouch and finish him soon and update - thanks!
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on January 18, 2012, 02:12:22 PM
Oops sorry Snowy, I cleared out my photobucket account last night, and some of the older pics got the chop :o If you are interested in any in particular I'll add them back up,
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: snowy on January 18, 2012, 02:45:52 PM
thanks crewella for the help and advice  :)  i will try and get those colours on the internet. i love the photo of the pleos with the autoglym, they all look ready to have an autoglym party  ;D

so, i will make the pleo green with 1 drop of prussian blue, and 3 drops light green, not sap green? then add a dollop of stretchi paint green? sorry for all the questions, just worried about taking the plunge lol.

thanks imr, i'm interested in a piccy of your tiger pleo you painted. in fact, all your painted dinos  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on January 18, 2012, 03:03:12 PM
 Hi Snowy, glad you liked my Lizard Pleo, now known as Rossella, she was the best one I have done so far. I am glad you are taking the Pleo painting plunge, It is nice to see new painted Pleos. IMR has some great ones as well as I love Crewellas Boa Pleo, great Pleos, I like variety. Be sure to post your results, that is how we all learn.  ;D   RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: snowy on January 18, 2012, 03:32:21 PM
ahh, i love her name rosella, she looks stunning.

i dont know when i will paint my pleo munchkin, as i need to sort out her awful holes first. in all truthfullness, i havent played with her that much, but she looks like her throat has been cut, and got a huge hole on her tail, just where the skin has deteriorated, so i need to repair her first, but unsure what superglue to use :(

then i can start painting  ;D

Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on January 18, 2012, 04:32:20 PM
I mixed the colours by eye with a few drops on a tray.  The amounts I gave were what worked for me, but you can always wipe it off before it dries if it looks wrong.  It tends to dry slightly darker.  Try a test area first. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on January 18, 2012, 04:34:52 PM
 Hi sorry to hear about Munchkin, I understand having several pleos with skin deteriorating esp under the belly, leg area. I also have a pleo named Little 45 that has a broken neck, tail falling off and all those holes in the skin, just shredding actualy, I used a superglue made for rubber, it will say on the label, Super Glue,  self piercing tube , contains Ethyl cyanoacrylate.. for NON Porous  items: Metal, Plastic and rubber. I can not say to use this as you use at your own risk, but this is what I have used with good results, but that is because the Pleo skin was so bad, I had nothing to lose . I would never use it on a Rb, Use very sparingly with the least amount possible it is great for slices in neck or tail and I have repaired both so they do not or barely show . Good luck. Glad to hear you like Rossella and her name . Fancy thought of her name, a combination of Rose ( beause of her colors) and Godzilla, so Rossella or Rosella. I thought it was a great name and had a name contest and awarded prizes for the top three. I have more Pleos that need painting, just no time right now.
           Let me know how the superglue goes if you try it.                                           RWM in the frozen wet wild wintery Redwoods :brrr:
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on January 18, 2012, 05:08:00 PM
Stitch [Limit reached]Notes: This was 70% latex, 30% acrylic, it has held up well but there is some cracking on the neck but only where he has splits in the rubber itself.

Lilo [Limit reached]Notes: 50% Acrylic, 50% latex, it cracked quickly although the paint did not peel off it did look unsightly. The gold paint is absolutely horrible to remove :P Lilo will be undergoing a full latex covering eventually to see how that holds up. (If I ever get the gold off!)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on January 18, 2012, 05:31:58 PM
Will you do Lilo as a cheetah again, IMR?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on January 18, 2012, 06:27:48 PM
No, she is going to be something very different :) %)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on January 18, 2012, 06:47:53 PM
Oooooh!!!!!  ;D ;D

Tease ...........  :P
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: snowy on January 19, 2012, 07:42:07 AM
thanks imr for the photos of lilo and stitch and the paint descriptions. what is your next pleo going to be when you get the paint off?  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on January 19, 2012, 01:44:31 PM
That's for me to know... %) %) %) %) :P
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: snowy on January 24, 2012, 07:07:58 AM
imr,

i notice you have not removed paint from stitch, the 70% latex, 30% acrylic, does this mean that the paint is satisfactory apart from where the skin was already cracked?

and have you started the re-paint on lilo with the mysterious new design?? :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on January 24, 2012, 02:11:41 PM
Stitch's paint has held up extremely well so I won't be repainting him again ever, except if he requires touch ups. There are no cracks at all except the spots where he already has cracks in the rubber skin itself. So I would say that, for the brands of ink/paint I used that seems to be a perfect blend.

I will be starting Lilo today I hope, the gold has been rather painstaking to get off :P
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on January 24, 2012, 02:36:06 PM
 Good luck IMR, can't wait to see how LILO turns out. I know what you mean about Paint that is "tough" to get off, I have a Pleo I started out as Lavendar and went to Pink shade, and boy what a job, I still have at least 60% or more of the paint to remove, it is chip by chip, a terrible tough Latex blend that definitly sticks and is durable, but too thick, thus I have to remove it and redo with less laytex and more ink like I did with Rosella, She has just the right blend but that is how we learn.
             Once I get this paint removed, I will redo with a lot less latex, that is for sure, Latex is tricky and getting the right blend is a trick. I really do like the inks and I think Stitch looks great. Will be looking forward to seeing the new Lilo. ;D Gives us all something to look forward to.

                                                               RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on January 29, 2012, 09:17:02 PM
Ok, I have been so busy with many other things, including a partial roof falling in. so painted pleos have not been on the top of my list. To get my mind off other things, I decided to try and continue with this pleo that I started awhile back. I wasn't even sure if it looked ok anymore so thought why not post partial painted results, I do realize it is not easy to see the actual color results here and remember this Pleo is not even half done, I do have about half of one side done and the other side not even touched, It is a result of several things and I will post what they are when done. so with this pleo not being done, here is the beginning of what it looks like, helping with comments will encourage me to continue with this Pleo project. The skin is in excellent condition, no need to paint or touch up, I just wanted to. ( The mad  Pleo Painter strikes again.)                  [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached] updated one I just took [Limit reached]
                    I will try and take better photos that show the color better tommrow during the day. I need a good combination of not just daylight but the light shining in the right area, as these are colors that are not just simple secondary colors but mixes and shiny at times. I still need to use my pigmented powders like I did with "lizard" Pleo, aka Rosella Pleo also. What do you think so far, from what you can see?    Thanks for feedback.  P:)


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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: MurphyMooCake on January 31, 2012, 08:16:49 AM
Hi

from what I see I like, even though its not complete

I think all the custom paint jobs I have seen look ace, and although I do like the original pleo colouring, I thnk that anyone who adds colour, adds the x-factor too, and well worth the effort.

I assume you will let us know the paint you are using, and whether or not it is stabe (ie non flaky) when stroked?

cheers
Stephen
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on January 31, 2012, 02:29:37 PM
Thanks MurphyMooCake, I will try and finish this Pleo this next few days, at least another look. I have so many projects right now it is hard to keep track of them all. I do love the orginal Pleo coloring, but when you have as many as I do and with all blue eyes, it is nice to have something different to keep track of their names. Hence the custom painted Pleos began. I think there are some very talented people here on the forums and I love the variety of painting styles. I will be sure to post more when I continue with this latest Pleo. Thank you for the support and comments.                                                 RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: fancyfont on January 31, 2012, 05:19:01 PM
i would love to see the green striping removed so the pleo is more an earthy color as you have going on. ;)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on January 31, 2012, 06:05:20 PM
Hi Fancy, my thoughts exactly, I started out with an idea and added the wrong color, ( lighter green) and am going to dilute and rub it out tommrow so I can go back to an earthy color and cover up the stripes green ( natural Pleo lines) with an earthy more natural tone like beinges, browns, lighter, I dont like the green I added and the other color will be muted down too. Sometimes it takes several attempts to get the look you want, and I don't mind sharing my mishaps and Pleo errors as well as successes. That is how we learn. I do like the paint, inks etc I am using, they are easy to work with and not a problem, just have to get it the color I want; more natural color, I am very happy with how Rosella came out and it will take the right mix to get this one done the same way.  :duh:

 I think I have had too many things on my mind today and I should have waited for a sunnier day to help with th

e mood. Thanks for the input Fancy, I do like what you have to say! ;) :cheer: :dino-chase:  going crazy in the Mad Mad Mad world of Pleo Painting in the overcast, wet, cold Redwoods.............................................................RWM


Almost forgot the photo, shows how bad I am today........................egads. [Limit reached]   Plan is to mute colors to earthy tones, change stripes to match slightly darker earth tones  [Limit reached] step two get rid of GREEN, dilute to back to earth tones with very very slight green undertones, natural looking. ( hopefully...)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: snowy on February 01, 2012, 07:42:24 AM
hi rwm,

i love the paint job.

i like the way you have painted his lower jaw green to match his body, but above all, i love the metallic purple paint, it is so gorgeous!

i wanted a pink pleo but looking at the colours that you and kat and imr have come up with, i am tempted to try and find a cheap ugobe pleo and paint it instead, and make some food items like the new pleos have (but wont copy them - lol).

yes, i really like that metallic purple xxxx
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on February 01, 2012, 11:54:56 AM
 Thanks Snowy, well I started out with a plan to remove the green from the legs , but after I started a plan just hatched and "the mad Painter of the Redwoods" really took over and I had no control over my hands, it had a life and mind of  it's own, so like it or not, here is the finished creation, I am calling, "fantasy Pleo" because I do not know what else to call it. P;D P:) so let me know if it is ok or not.................

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: snowy on February 01, 2012, 02:37:02 PM
i love it, but, i dont know whether he would look even better if you brought the green further down the legs so he just had brown feet?
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on February 01, 2012, 04:19:31 PM
Hi Snowy, yes it is possible that his feet will continue, I just wasn't sure if it would be too much so left some of the original tan/brown color like some on the face.

                       RWm
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on February 02, 2012, 11:43:43 AM
oh well, what can I say. seems as if while I as regenerating some sleep for my human body, "The Mad Pleo Painter of the REdwoods", had a go with one of my innocent Pleos sleeping innocently on the shelf with it's companions. I must have interrupted their dastardy deed during the night while looking for a drink, and they didn't have the courage to finish their task, as the Pleo has some new color, but only on one side of the body, and the tail was stopped midway! :o I guess I scared them off, so I will have to lie in wait tonight to see if they come back to finish what they started............................
                                     This Pleo is unaware of what is going on but the other Pleos have noticed the new "salon makeover" and are giving her a good once over this morning so I thought it only appropriate to take some photos of the new look, and also great mug shots if the Pleo Painter needs to be prosecuted, I will have some good evidence of the "crime'.  :D             [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached] [Limit reached]
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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on February 02, 2012, 12:10:11 PM
I love the speckled effect on that one - probably takes hours to do it so finely, but it's worth it! :D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: snowy on February 02, 2012, 03:43:56 PM
yes, i like the speckling too, and the white lines and everything  :)

Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Pleo-Freak55 on April 09, 2012, 04:23:07 AM
very good Photo RWM like me. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 09, 2012, 10:44:40 AM
Hi Franzi, thanks for the comments, I have been wondering what to do next as I have a couple of canditates and I got a request from PleoWorld fan site after posting a photo of Coral and the other Purple Green one, I asked what color should I do next and they told me their fave color, so rather than announce what they said they would like to do, I will just do it and then show it here and on their site. I think it should be interesting as two colors that I would not have thought of right away. I did see also another great color combination in a bird a few days ago, and will post that color combo here later today.
           I just  have been so  busy that I haven't had much time for much of anything let alone the "mad Painter of the Redwoods" enthusiasm to do anything, just too tired..but Spring is in the air and rejuvination is about to begin! (:
                                                                         RWM and the Pleo Clan of the Redwoods
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Pleo-Freak55 on April 09, 2012, 11:44:38 AM
yes please nice love RWM like me that you the Pleos paint has. :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 18, 2012, 04:13:13 AM
Lilo is undergoing her second makeover :) Here is the base coat, although she may need one more coat, I have to wait until tomorrow so I can see it in daylight. Once again I am using a custom 75% latex and 25% acrylic paint blend.

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on April 18, 2012, 04:20:06 AM
Woooooo - it's so nice to see Lilo looking all glossy and healthy again!  :D

Can't wait to see what you come up with!  ^-^
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 03, 2012, 01:06:50 PM
Lilo looks not only glossy and beautiful but very healthy and just like new. Can't wait to see the final result. I expect it will be a big surprise for all of us! P:D              Fantastic color so far! :cool:

                                                 RWM
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 03, 2012, 01:11:52 PM
Well Kat spotted a small Pleo coloring I was undertaking a few weeks ago as well, and now that the "pleo is out of the bag",  :D here is the first and second step of the paint makeover. This is not complete and done of course. I expect with rain forcast all week, I am going to have plenty of time to paint...so this Pleo may resemble Rossella a bit, but they are actually quite different, it is just that with rain and overcast grey clouds, there are no real good natural lighting anywhere that can show the true colos. Orange shades are quite varied as you all know, so the actual coloring may surprise you, but this will give you a rough idea.          Please be gentle, this is just a baby Pleo and has come a long way from deep in the Redwoods, that is why the colors blend in so well with the ferns and fauna of the Redwoods floor.  P:) [Limit reached] [Limit reached]  
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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on July 08, 2012, 07:37:35 PM
 Well the last Pleo I started doing a makeover on, I completley undid, removed all the paint and started all over again. This time I got the look I was invisioning and got it the way I want. It is a inspiration from the recent sunny happy weather here in the Redwoods. I have just some touch up to do on the face and small small areas of paint removal on eye ball and similiar small areas. I hope you like my latest Pleo. This is definitly a Happy Sunny Pleo. ;D P:)

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Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Lottibell on July 09, 2012, 02:28:39 AM
Lovely cheerful colors RWM! Any Pleo is sure to have a sunny disposition when sporting such fabulous skin!  :sheep1:
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: MICKEY on July 09, 2012, 05:31:07 AM
You are very creative. They look  great. What types of paint did you use?   What did you use to remove the paint?  :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on July 09, 2012, 01:15:18 PM
Thanks Lotti, glad you liked him or her... ???He or she is very colorful and that is the mood I was in and trying to show.  ;D P8)

Mickey, as for getting the old paint off, harder than it sounds, but that is because I Used lots and lots of elbow grease,and my elbows are like the rest of my worn out ole body, arthritic and in pain most days. so Pleo paint removing is a slow process but I have plenty of time. I used gentle soap, a toothbrush, and believe it or not, some olive oil as well. ( Helped to keep the skin the rubber soft and works well on fresher paint  sometimes as well.)

     AS for paint used, it was Acrylic paint this time with no inks, so a first for me, Usually I use a mixture of inks, acrylic and laytex and some painted dry pigments. I have even used oil paint, but not this time.The paint dries super fast so you have to be careful and if a mistake remove and do again. I used two different acrylic paints also. Thanks for the questions.                    RWM, the "mad painter of the Redwoods" P:D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: Crewella on July 09, 2012, 03:03:09 PM
Wow, somebody's been busy!  :D

That's a lovely sunny looking Pleo, and the skin texture looks good too. Great job RWM!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: kat on July 09, 2012, 05:50:36 PM
He is very Sunny :)  Sunny would be a good name for him too I think :)
Title: Re: Ugobe Pleo paint retouching
Post by: RedwoodsMama on August 05, 2012, 01:36:08 PM
 Ok, one particular member from Germany, Luna has wanted to know if it was possible to paint a all white or basic white Pleo and she wants to do it. She asked for advice and the general opinion is that is impossible or very difficult to paint a all white pleo unless perhaps it is pink as a Pleo Rb. I agree that it is DIFFICULT, but NOT impossible, I have been wanting to do a white or off white Pleo for at least this past year, and with so many Pleo, (moslty Ugobes and many older ones with skin that needs touch ups... ;)) I do not have the problem of finding a willing canidate, or make that pleo Model! P:) IMR is RIGHT, if you plan to do all white and have a Green Ugobe, it will MOre than likely take more than ONE coat to cover the green . If you use Oil paint Like I am doing and with a mottled or spotted skin pattern it is easier. I will still go over several areas but the oils ( in my experience...) is easier for ME to use, then the Acrylic blends.  Remember, This is MY OPINION and MY EXPERIENCE. Everyone has different opinions and experiences, Anyway, this is a project I have just started and I wanted to show you the possibilities, Now you can decide by looking at the White Makeover Pleo a work IN PPROGRESS,, if white looks possible for YOU to do, that is the imperative here, CAN you do this, do you feel comfortable.? Check back later this week for more progress, Oh, and Oils do dry very easily and if you notice the neck area, I am only putting some white marks there, this will keep this area easy to bend and no flaking drying or cracking, I aslo used oils with some acrylics on Rossella and I still think she is the best example I have so far and over a year and no cracking paints!
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            Please leave comments and let me know what you think of this Pleo so far, Remember NOT done by a LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG  shot! P:D :flowers:

               RWM AKA  " The Mad Painter of the Redwoods" and the Pleo Township, clan or whatever of the Redwoods :cool:
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