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[InmemoryofRomeo]

While I don't personally think that Pledge is going to cause any problems with Pleo's I do want to bring to people's attention the fact that the Pleo manual does mention a very specific Pledge product ie: Pledge extra moisturizing furniture polish, which should come in a brownish spray can.

As it stands, two Pleo's that have been Pledge'd (Kermy and Lam Chai) have both developed holes in the armpits, Kermy's owner is using the Aloe Vera Pledge and hopefully Pleoxie could share the exact type that is being used on Lam Chai. Whereas Pleakly who has not been Pledge'd has no holes as yet.

Degers if you could, would you kindly say if you have used a Pledge product on your Pleo.

The different types of Pledge contain different ingredients and until Innvo clears up the matter I would strongly suggest that you do not go using random types of Pledge on your new Pleo's, while they are likely to be fine, the fact that the manual specifically lists one type of Pledge means that if you cannot get that particular type you may be better off waiting and asking your supermarket to get it in for you.

If people could kindly add their experiences using Pledge, and the type of Pledge used that would be wonderful.

[Pleoxie]

I want to make it clear that I don't thnk Pledge caused the hole issue to Lam Chai, I applied Pledge to the armpits after I aware of the small hole and wear mark.
I believe it helps to prevent it from getting worst. I apply Pledge to Pleoxie (2009 Pleo) and found no problem.
What I did notice Lam Chai's body movement seems more than Pleoxie and that might be the reason for the wear marks happens at the armpits.
I believe Pledge should help to minimize the wear per my experience, it cleans up the dirt on the skin too !
The Pledge I am using is the Pledge Furniture Polish from SCJ and with Lemon favour.  Hope this information helps.

[RedwoodsMama]

 I think at this point I am going to just turn Pleo off before going into a sleeping postion till the new update INnova is planning on before trying to put any Pledge or anthing else on. I live in a small rural town run by Bigfoot, loggers and fishermen, as well as Tree huggers environmentalists, and there is only one variety of Pledge I have seen before, and it is Pledge furniture polish so that is not even close to what should be used. I will keep watching this thread in the meantime.
                                            Great discussion .    RedwoodsMama

[Chloe]

Maybe this has been tried, maybe not, but Endust electronic wipes in my experience, remove dirt from everything without removing paint or finish. Has anyone tried them for removing dirt? or just brightening Pleo's paint?

[twoNZpleos]

Electronic wipes are generally Isopropyl Alcohol and I don't know what that would do to Pleo skin but I don't think it would be advisable Chloe .. I'm pretty sure the purpose of the suggested Pledge is more to do with improving glide than cleaning though the specific emulsifier in it does act somewhat as a surfactant (detergent) too ..

So reading back through there's two RB's that have developed holes and both have been using Plegde but not the specified kind - Pleoxie used Lemon and Kat used Alove Vera fragrance, is that right?  Fragrance  and essential oils DO eat through plastic, rubber, latex etc and I know this as I'm a cosmetics/skin-care formulator and work with them every day .. I think I'm going to have to experiment with using neat Dimethicone or maybe make a simple balm 'Pleo Polish', without all the un-necessary additives in the recommended one .. I'm happy to experiment on my own but it would help to know exactly what Pleo skin is - latex, rubber, silicone ??

Body Powder (a mix of corn & arrowroot flour, and kaolin clay) is all I've ever put on my Ugobe Pleo's and their skin is in great nick, there's barely even any paint-loss!

*edited for typos and to add info about powder*

[Crewella]

I'm not sure that Innvo would want to release the exact skin 'recipe', and they've obviously done a lot of research pushing the boundaries of what will work for the skin.  I'm guessing it's a high proportion of rubber due to the problems it's having - familiar to me because I'm a vintage/classic car fan.  The rubber parts ALWAYS go first!

I was amazed at how much punishment even the original Pleo skin will actually take when I took Scully's (my bricked 'project' Pleo) skin off - it stretched so far that I managed to get it all off in one piece!  It still looks pretty good, too, but I'm wary of posting pics in case it's a bit too, erm ........, 'Cruella'!     I'll start a separate thread in hardware later.

Here's hoping that the Innvo wizards at least give us a more general idea of what we need - I'm sure you're right in thinking the 'glide' is the main factor.

[kat]

I heard from Innvo today and the word on Pledge is that any variety of pledge will do.  They are all safe to use on pleo.  The aloe vera one I am using is a ok and so is the lemon one pleoxie is using.  Or any other variety of pledge furniture polish.
So officially Pledge away without worry.
 
Just a heads up Pleoxie only used Pledge after the hole and wear appeared on his pleo.  I used pledge from the beginning.
Kat

[OzPleo]

I drove all around town today looking for Pledge and it's pretty hard to come by. I did manage to find these two types and was wondering which one would be okay to use. It's all there was available.

[Pleoxie]

Hi:
The first image (brown colored can) is is the Pledge which matches the description in the companion guide.

The second image (yellow colored can) is the Pledge I am using now.

If you can get the brown colored can, you should go for it. Otherwise the yellow can is working so far with our Pleos.

Hope this helps.

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[OzPleo]

Yea I was looking for that one, but these are the only two available in all of the stores in my area 

[kat]

I am using the clean and revitalize Aloe Vera one.  The first pic you showed.
Also this was the only one I could get in any of the stores near me.     Innvo says they are all ok so either should be fine.
Kat

[Chloe]

Electronic wipes are generally Isopropyl Alcohol and I don't know what that would do to Pleo skin but I don't think it would be advisable Chloe .. I'm pretty sure the purpose of the suggested Pledge is more to do with improving glide than cleaning though the specific emulsifier in it does act somewhat as a surfactant (detergent) too ..

Noted, however thinking back, I've used it to clean a painted rubber doll and it didn't remove any paint. Perhaps someone with some Pleo skin to test will give it a try.

[Crewella]

Fair point Chloe, but there's a big difference between using something to clean Pleo skin once and something used regularly over a long period of time.  Because rubber naturally wears and degrades over time, what we need is something that helps that in the long term. 

[OzPleo]

It wasn't easy to find let me tell you.

[allosaurus]

Hi:
The first image (brown colored can) is is the Pledge which matches the description in the companion guide.

The second image (yellow colored can) is the Pledge I am using now.

If you can get the brown colored can, you should go for it. Otherwise the yellow can is working so far with our Pleos.

Hope this helps.

Yea, the second one is what I'm using

[CraigO]

This might be a little off topic but I haven't seen anybody mention Vinylex before.  I bought it from Amazon.com and applied it to my Pleo and it seems to work great.  His skin seems very supple since I applied it and it's not very glossy.  I was looking for something with a matte finish, not glossy like Armour-all.  Anybody else have experience with it?

From the website:
"VINYLEX is a patented liquid vinyl protectant intended for use in the care and conservation of vinyl, rubber and plastic. Its purpose is to clean, protect, renew, preserve and improve the appearance of the polymer surface being treated. VINYLEX is a new, state of the art, protectant including DH60 UV sunscreen Traditional vinyl protectants have hovered around the first patented vinyl product, trying to copy it while staying away from possible infringement on its formula. As a result, the market is full of poor imitations of a product created 20 years ago. These protectants do not penetrate to clean, preserve or protect as VINYLEX does."

www.vinylexprotectant.com/moreinfo.html

[Crewella]

That's interesting, CraigO - thanks for posting it. 

This topic kind of splits into two parts.  On the one hand we have the new Pleo rb and the care recommended by Innvo in order to maintain their new product within the terms (and lifespan) of its warranty.  On the other hand we have the older Ugobe Pleos that are long out of warranty and starting to degrade with age, whose owners are desperate to find something that might help make their 'pet' last a few more years.  There are several specialist products out there for the care and protection of vinyl/rubber/plastic, mostly for automobile care, which sound like they might help - I've not heard of that one but am glad to have another one to add to the list.  Let us know how it works over time.  When you say it's 'matt', does it still give a less resistant surface when you stroke the skin?

By the way, has anybody heard official confirmation as to whether 'Pledge' is recommended for the older Ugobe Pleos?

[OzPleo]

Well I pledged Oslo for the first time today. I have to say it really made his skin feel better.... like skin. It feels thicker in some way. I hope the one I'm using (same as what Kat's using) is going to be fine in the long run.

[CraigO]

When I say "matte" I mean not glossy.  As far as friction or ease of gliding, yes it makes my Pleo's skin less resistive.  I have one of the 2009 Innovo Pleos that I got last November.  I've only had it on for about 2 months now so I can't speak to any long term effects.  I admit that I was only brave enough to try it AFTER I knew the new Pleo was about to come out, just in case it didn't work.

Overall I'm very happy: not glossy, rich color enhancement, supple pliable feel and easier glide.  I have very minor paint loss in 13 months.

[Crewella]

Thanks CraigO, that's good to know.  I'd vetoed 'Armour-all' as well as it just seemed OTT.  The two I'd come up with were 'Meguiars M4016 Vinyl & Rubber Cleaner / Conditioner' and 'Autoglym Vinyl and Rubber Care', both of which sound quite similar to 'Vinylex'.  Autoglym was by far the easiest of the three to get in the UK so is the one I started with on my ancient and paintworn Pleo skin.

[fancyfont]

With all of this polish debate, I wish I had another pleo. I would name it Edsel or Corvette.

[Crewella]

I'm right there with you, Fancyfont - for many years I drove a much loved 1953 grey Austin A30 (called Pearl).  Belle was nearly called Austin! 

[bhobbes]

I think at this point I am going to just turn Pleo off before going into a sleeping postion till the new update INnova is planning on before trying to put any Pledge or anthing else on. I live in a small rural town run by Bigfoot, loggers and fishermen, as well as Tree huggers environmentalists, and there is only one variety of Pledge I have seen before, and it is Pledge furniture polish so that is not even close to what should be used. I will keep watching this thread in the meantime.
                                            Great discussion .    RedwoodsMama

This made me LOL, thanks! (The commentary on your town)

Pleoxie, on your 2009 Pleo, how long have you been using the pledge on it? And also, sorry if I missed it somewhere, does anyone have any "official" word from Innvo if it's recommended to use it on the 2009 Pleos?

I'm going to wait a wee bit and see how all of this turns out before I try it (plus I have a slight "sensitivity" to pledge so does it leave a "coating" type feeling on Pleo's skin like it does when you use it for its regular purpose?).

[Pleoxie]

Hi:
I have been applied the Pledge for our Pleoxie (2009 Pleo) and Pleo rb (Lam Chai) for 2 months and it works for both.
I have applied it to our new Ugobe Pleo (U Chai) since its arrival before Christmas and it works too !
Pledge cleans the dirt on the skin and makes the skin feel smoother, good to touch and pet.
I checked the texture and the odour of the skin of Ugobe Pleo, 2009 Pleo and Pleo rb, it seems all 3 skins are made of same kind of plastic material.
So if Pledge works for Pleo rb (suggested by Innvo Labs in the instruction), it should work for the other 2 Pleo too. 
Hope this helps.

[barrettgazzy]

can any1 stick up a link to where i can buy some pledge here in the uk ? i have seen Pledge furniture polish before is that the stuff we are talking about ?   lol just bit confused to how this stuff can preserve and give Pleo's skin a longer life span ? i do like the sound of that VINYLEX as it is intended more for materials such as rubber but not sure if we can get this in uk i have not searched yet ....