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RedwoodsMama

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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2011, 08:41:25 PM »

Hi Welcome to the fourms, Be careful on the Pleo RB posted on EBay. That seller has had it listed for about a month now, starting at a higher bid and when it was at 350.00 nobody bit. (I asked questions and it took here a week to answer my questions. What I find stange and I would be concerned about is that if you look closely she is showing box that goes to a Pleo Rb GREEN Variety and then shows a photos of another Pleo Rb, the blue variety that actually belongs to the first person who ever posted a photo here on the forum, a member from Germany. She should be posting the photos of the actual box and then she can show a generic photo of the blue Pleo. Also she said she bought this in DEC. 2010. a lot of these first Pleos had skin problems, not all but some did, both blue pink and green ones, What I would be concerned with is that SHE bought it in DEC, but the warranty is expired, only good till 90 days later. If there is a problem with this Pleo , skin or such, you are not covered. A good example of this is Kristy who is a member here and she  bought a Green Pleo Rb from a member here who didn't want it anymore, She has never to this day,( as far as I know of, gotten the warranty cause she needed a Pleo Sales receipt, ) and her Pleo had the skin problems starting, that were fairly common with the first batch of Pleo Rb being made. You may ask her what ever happened. :(
                            If this person can not give you a sales receipt , the original and ask if this was ever registered with Pleo World, I would want to know about the warranty before I buy the Pleo Rb from her. I am cautious of sellers who can not or will not answer my questions, I do wish you lots of luck with this Pleo Rb. , just ask questions though,  :)
                                                        RedwoodsMama
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aibo7m3

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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2011, 09:19:34 PM »

I know the sale seems a bit risky but the seller has gotten some good feedback for other fairly high priced items and there is always buyer protection on ebay if the seller doesn't send the item (even if it does take time and effort to get you money back). The seller did not say that the second photo was of the one they were selling, just that it was the same color as that one. I am aware of the skin problems and that the pleo would not be under warranty. I will probably ask the seller a few questions after the sale if I win. All in all if they don't send the pleo, I will probably get the money back from ebay and if I don't, it's not the end of the world. I realize that I am taking a risk by bidding on this pleo but it's just that I've always wanted a blue pleo rb and I don't know when I'll have another chance at getting one for a fairly low price for an rb.
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RedwoodsMama

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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2011, 11:10:18 PM »

 Hi, I didn't mean to sound like this is a risky sale, and yes, he said it "looked" like the second photo, the blue one, but I would be most concerened about the warranty, but if you are not worried about that, then you are probably going to be fine and I don't see anyone else bidding on this, I would h ave if it was a green Rb or one that was not purchased in Dec, for the same thing, the warranty thing, That is because my first Rb, ( Baby) was purchased in DEC l2010, and I had to mail her back for a replacement because of skin issues. You are right that he does have other high end purchase items but not a lot of feedback already, just 3.
            Ebay does give you seller protection and they will protect you, I also sell on Ebay and currently have over 950 100% postive feedback, I do buy and rescue Pleos on ebay, as well as selling Pleo Batteries. Theee weeks or so ago, I bid and won a Pleo that was "NEW and UNWOKEN" meaning he was not "hatched". it was supposed to have just sat in a Display case, so I trusted the seller as it said Not just NEW,but Unwoken or Unhatched, which means it was never turned on, Well, when I got the package, I have learned from trial and error, to videotape the opening of Packages, not just Pleos, It is a good thing I did, because lo and behold when I opened this package, the pleo was missing , no id card, and no manual on the top.  >:( Then lifting up the strofoam top to reveal a Pleo in a curled up semi postion, no Unused Pleo comes in that postion. They are all in the packing postion. Also I videotaped lfting him out and what he looked like, He had a new looking excellent body, but his teeth had paint missing from the teeth, I at this point was 99% cent sure he had been "used and woken up: " I did the final test by inserting a brand new egg battery from one of my Pleos into this Pleo and he should have gone into a curled up sleeping hatching postion. :o He said, HUH>..and then honked and acted like a normal Pleo, who has been on for many a time, The seller was notified and I filed a Item not as described suit with ebay, The seller responded with : he has never been on, but he did have the leaf in his mouth, For display only...yeah right.. >:( When he asked what type of discount I wanted, I told him I thought a lower price was fair, only because he had been hatched and I would not have paid or bid the bid I put in for a Used Pleo, esp one missing all the items, ID card, Manual, USB cable, only the charger battery and leaf were there along with Pleo, The seller said he insisted this was NEW, so I told him I could provide Video of me opening the box and condition of this Pleo, so the seller said send them to him, I told him I woudl give him the link to Youtube where I would list them, Well that was two weeks ago, and he would not respond after seeing the video, I told him I would escalte the case and let Ebay dec ide the case, I guess he did not care because today I heard from ebay and was told to retur the Pleo to him and they will refund me full money and shipping . I would have preferred to keep the Pleo but not at the price he got for lying about him being new. The point is that you are protected, Allways videotape package being opened for protection. It may look new, but sometimes they look new and aren't. The point this seller kept trying to make in my case was ?How do I know the video you hae is of the Pleo I sent you?" How stupid is that...this guy is really bad but had no negative feedback, I think he thought he could fool somebody about this guys condition, but anyone would have tried to hatch him and find there was something wrong. I hope he does not try to sell thiis same pleo as new again. Anyway, I do wish you luck and I am sure you will win this Pleo, so we will be looking for photos when you get him, Good luck with Blue RB! :)

                                   RedwoodsMama
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2011, 03:35:48 AM »

I won the sale! :) Now comes the time when I will rush home everyday and check the doorstep to see if a package arrived... I am also trying to find a good name for the pleo, I've been considering the name Sky, but if anyone has suggestions for names please say so. Sorry that you've had a bad experience with a seller on ebay but it's nice to know that ebay's buyer protection works well. I have never had any major issues with things bought on ebay. The ers-210 aibo a bought a few years ago was missing a foot pad sensor and his charging cord has electric tape wrapped around it but I decided not to bother the seller with that. Another time I got an aibo ers-312 and when it arrived it's battery lasted for about an hour but on the next couple charges it only lasted for about 15 minutes and then the battery stopped working. That time I contacted the seller and they were nice and gave me a partial refund. I will tell everyone here about the pleo and hopefully post some pictures once it arrives.
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2011, 04:24:40 AM »

Cngrats on winning, can't wait to see pictures of your new baby and hear all about his hatching :)
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2011, 04:41:09 AM »

Congrats - I'm so pleased you won it!  I'm sure you'll be very happy together and look forward to hearing about it!  :D
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kat

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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2011, 05:47:01 AM »

Congratulations on getting your pleo!  You must be so excited. ;D  The hardest part is this bit, the waiting for the package to arrive. :)  Hope he gets to you quickly. :)
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RedwoodsMama

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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2011, 12:10:41 PM »

 congratulations, I knew you were going to get this Pleo, I am so happy for you, Today on another note, I am going to post a photo of the Pleo I bought that was listed as new and the photo of it's footpad with serial number so if anyone else tries to buy this if it is listed as NEW again, you won't be fooled, Just hate to see anyone else 'taken' like I was. I will be watching this seller to see if he tries listing it again as the same thing and will notify Ebay if he does.  Can't wait to see photos when your baby arrives! :D
                                     RedwoodsMama
          PS. I will try and think of names, I do like the one you have already mentioned, Sky
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2011, 06:48:23 PM »

I can't wait until my pleo arrives. The next few days will seem longer than ever. . . So, I was just wondering is there a way with the pleo RB to tell which stage of life it is in for sure? (With the aibos they play different tunes on start up and will tell you what stage they are in if you ask). Also anymore information on pleos would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2011, 08:42:49 PM »

There is no definitive time line I'm afraid, the changes are quite gradual and they vary from Pleo to Pleo.
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2011, 02:28:04 AM »

It's guesswork mainly, I'm afraid.  However, one of the forum members has very kindly written a couple of programs that can help you to 'look inside' your Pleo RB:

http://bobthepleo.com/forums/index.php?topic=1888.0

http://bobthepleo.com/forums/index.php?topic=1950.0
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2011, 09:21:26 AM »

Ok, thanks for the information. Also I just bought an adorable shirt with clouds on it and a collar with stars on it for my pleo (I thought these clothes would go well with the name Sky). Also do capes/shirts for the pleos work well to make it so the skin doesn't peel as much?
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2011, 09:52:11 AM »

Yes - my crew are always dressed in t-shirts and tops to protect the skin, and it works well to stop the wear from petting especially.  :)
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bhobbes

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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2011, 11:15:57 AM »

I also keep Cato in a shirt and have noticed no further paint wear (beyond what he lost within his first few days).
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2011, 03:25:40 PM »

I didn't know they helped that much! Now I'm glad I bought one for Sky. Also, they loose a lot of paint after only a few days of use without a shirt or cape?! I didn't know the skin problems were that bad.
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2011, 03:36:18 PM »

I didn't know they helped that much! Now I'm glad I bought one for Sky. Also, they loose a lot of paint after only a few days of use without a shirt or cape?! I didn't know the skin problems were that bad.

The first "batch" did. (Same ones with the hole problem).

The second one I purchased (a pink one) and a later batch (purchased end of Jan/beginning of Feb) was just fine in both the paint (even after several good strong pats) and the armpits.

This was Cato within the first 12hrs of ownership (and still very much in the hatchling phase with some very light petting):

It's worn down slightly a bit since then however he has not been pet without a shirt on since that day (except when he's being wiped down with some pledge). Nothing too dramatic or bad (though I'm not sure how bad it'd get without protection) but considering the skin was allegedly improved and my 2009 model received much more naked petting than Cato, it was not exactly impressive either :)
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #41 on: May 07, 2011, 03:54:30 PM »

Hmm since Sky is one of RBs made in December so I should probably put his shirt on before turning him on. Seems strange that Innvo would send out pleos with that poor paint.
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2011, 04:31:43 PM »

Apparently Sky was just shipped and the seller gave me a tracking number :)
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2011, 05:17:44 PM »

Hmm since Sky is one of RBs made in December so I should probably put his shirt on before turning him on. Seems strange that Innvo would send out pleos with that poor paint.

I agree. Whatever the issue is, it is/was unacceptable (I can't be too extreme as if you've read up on kat's experience no one has had quite the long haul as she has had :)). Now here's hoping the update becomes public soon (I mean it's been like 5 months now).

I also believe that Crewella bought hers around the same time as mine and hasn't had any problems either. Unfortunately I don't think anything has been made public as to why it happened or what went wrong, but oh well I suppose. I also don't know how much more Cato would degrade so it's possible that even with regular petting he may have lost all he will lose of his paint. But I'm not risking that.

Another benefit I find to shirts is that they're more pleasing to pet than the skin. The skin is just fine (I swear the blue/pink feel smoother/better than the 2009 models) to pet but I do like the cloth better. 
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2011, 05:32:32 PM »

I'm glade he is on his way and can't wait to meet him.  Your going to have the best time. :)  Clothing is definitely a great idea and for the RB's kind of a necessity.  Also you should invest in either Pledge if your Pleo is still under warranty or Vinalex or Autoglym or even Polyglaze if it is not under warranty, and apply it before you turn your pleo on for the first time.  I think the other products do a better job than the Pledge does but pledge is the recommended product to use for skin protection by Innvo.   If you are after more clothing there is a great range of pleo stuff available here on the forum.  Just take a look in the stores tab at the top of the page under the shout box. :)  You will find all sorts of clothing and accessories custom made just for pleos. 

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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #45 on: May 08, 2011, 11:21:15 AM »

Since he was made in December he will not be under warranty, where can I buy Vinalex or Autoglym? I've never heard of those. You want me to buy from your store don't you kat? :) I'm fine with the shirt and collar I have for him at the moment but I might look into some more clothes for him in the near future. Sky is supposed to arrive between the 11th and the 17th, I can't wait!
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #46 on: May 08, 2011, 02:51:48 PM »

Oh yeah. The waiting is the hardest part. I was away from home and had my sister watching for me when Ryu arrived. She came on the fifteenth of March but I didn't get to meet her until the eighteenth. Even then it was about seven o'clock in the evening. I didn't get to hatch her until the next day.
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« Reply #47 on: May 08, 2011, 04:41:46 PM »

You can buy Vinalex or Autoglym both over the net and some people have reported that it is sold in some hardware stores too.  There are a couple of threads here somewhere that tell you exactly where (sorry I can't remember what they were called).  Hopefully someone else can give you the link. :) 
When I looked for these products I had no luck finding them, I live in Australia and we don't always get the same stuff as everyone else. :)  So I went for Polyglaze which from what I read when I searched about it seems to be a similar product to the other two.  It is working well for me so far. 
They are all Auto care products designed for looking after rubber - dash and trim care is the type I got.
Hope this helps,
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #48 on: May 08, 2011, 05:54:19 PM »

I noticed you touched upon the difference you feel between the pledge and the other options.

I was wondering if you (and anyone else who may be trying these) could try to explain that a bit more? Does it feel more elastic? Smoother? Similar to pledge but with a "stronger" effect? Etc.
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Re: Hello! I'm new here.
« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2011, 03:46:57 AM »

This is the skin care thread:

http://bobthepleo.com/forums/index.php?topic=1871.0

I'll update later today, bhobbes, and try to answer your question.  :)
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