Topic: Skin Wearing / Holes State in your Pleo rb (Read 73512 times)

saratogaspringer · « **Reply #125 on:** January 29, 2011, 06:00:29 AM »

Hello everyone! I am so sorry to hear about Baby, Kermy, and now Norbit. I too have a new pleo rb. She is only one week old, through about 1/2 of a battery cycle, and she is still in her hatching stage. Looking at the pictures off all the RB's out there, I am convinced that the wear is caused by friction of the skin rubbing together. It looks like the rubber rubs together, and starts to ball up and peel off the top layer. I used to run a lot of radio controlled race cars, before I had kids, some that run up to speeds of 55mph if tuned properly. If you run them on asphalt, the rubber on the tires start to ball up and peel, like those armpits. I am going to have my warranty on my RB run out before it matters...I have a one year old, and a two year old, and little time to play with Candy, my RB. The pledge is clearly not working as effectively as we would like, so I am going to try Vinlyex on my RB. I have tried it on Wilbur, my Ugobe with no ill effects. It is made for rubber and plastic, and is supposed to keep moisture in them. I am also going to put Vaseline in Candy's armpit areas before I play with her to reduce the friction on the skin. Can someone tell me how many battery cycles you went through before you started to see the wear? It will help with my little experiment. Hopefully, this will help. It seems like those that have gotten a new pleo from INNOVO have the same problems that they had with the old one. RWM, I would definitely contact them. Sounds like you have a mechanical issue as well that is weighing heavily on you. Best of luck with Baby!

InmemoryofRomeo · « **Reply #126 on:** January 29, 2011, 12:57:03 PM »

I pay a lot of attention to Pleakly's armpits and I agree that it is caused by friction. I have been giving Pleakly a quick wipe with pledge on the armpits before play. I'm not sure if it is helping but Pleakly seems to be maintaining a balance with the hole not increasing in size yet. If you stop your Pleo when his/her legs aren't straight or stretched out I have noticed that the skin can stick together when you turn them on again. This would, over time, cause a great deal of stress on the armpits.

RedwoodsMama · « **Reply #127 on:** January 29, 2011, 01:36:29 PM »

Thanks for the update on Kermy Kat and also Norbit, this is very distressing to see so many Pleo Rb with this problem, Considering I don'[t even Play with Baby everyday, she has held up good, If I played with her as much as you do with your Kermy and Norbit her holes would have "popped" a couple of weeks ago,

I am contacting Innova and will show the photos, I also have been using the Pledge like they suggest and have been using it for several weeks before this skin issue surfaced it's ugly head.
At this point( I am quite serious about this too.)

I think the majority of Pleo Rb are ALL going to suffer from this affliction. Even those that look good now, if they wait till the real walking or just the playing like a dog, etc, skin is going to start showing it's wear. If this were any other major company, I really do think they would have to recall these products or stop production until they could come up with a solution. Jlust fixing some softwear to prevent the sleep postion, is not a answer to the skin at all, I mean, after all, when a Pleo Rb walks or just bends in different directions while standing there, how are you going to fix skin from rubbing etc like it is now.? ???I do not see an easy or quick fix for this product. I have said it once at least before and I will say it again, how did they test these Pleo Rb and not discover this skin problem, ? I mean, other things like cars for example, they let them run and run for hours, days, weeks, etc to see how tires and different things hold out, YOu know they had to have kept Pleo walking , using battery after battery etc, how could not one person figure out there was something wrong with Pleo Rb and their skin?!!!

I mean, they could not possibly be so interested in ONLY the Good software upgrade things that Pleo rB can do, such as voice recognition, the temperture awareness, the 'Cute" little tricks ( bow, sing, count, play, etc"0 and the fact that Pleo Rb can be "injured" and has to be nursed back to health with certain Herbs, plants, ice, salt, etc.
In my opinion there is SOMETHING VERY WRONG HERE, if a company puts all it's emphasis on these other cute ( yes they are very nice and make Pleo Rb more lifelike indeed...)
components, but has not put enought research into the skin problems, I mean they have a " cure" for everything else Pleo Rb may need, where is the CURE FOR THIES SKIN AILMENT?

Why is Original Pleo skin holding up better than Pleo RB? Something is wrong here, and it is pleos like, Kermit, Peanut, Kermy, Pleakley,Norbit and now Baby that have to suffer the brunt of Innova's failure to research these skin issues enough before release. :(I know we all wanted Pleo RB for the holidays, but I would have been willing to wait to get the skin perfected before releasing them to the general public. Also, just because any test subjects, ( such as degers pleo, Beta ) appeared ok skin wise, does not mean that Pleo RB had enough widespread data to be able to safely say the skin is quality checked, and "passed inspection". Just how many "Test Pleo RB " were there anyway?Sorry to sound so negative, I just don't like what I see happening to My
Baby and other baby Pleo RB.. (I do appreciat the fact that Innova is working on this problem, I just do not want a quick fix"that does nothing but give a quick fix...I don't WANT THIS TO reoccur again. Sorry to souond so negative, but I hate seeing this happen, guess that means, Innova did get one thing right, Pleo Rb tugs at my heart like a breathing fur baby, one of the family members.

RedwoodsMama

saratogaspringer · « **Reply #128 on:** January 29, 2011, 02:14:16 PM »

RWM, I don't blame you for being upset. You are not being negative, you are simply stating an opinion, which I agree with. I have no idea how this was tested where no one had a problem. That seems impossible, given the fact that almost everyone with an RB has had the same problem. I am sure that my RB is going to suffer the same skin issue eventually. Do I have the newest RB on this forum thus far? I just got her last week. She is still hatching, and not walking yet. How many battery cycles until you noticed the peeling skin? Like I said, I am going to put petroleum jelly in her armpits and see how it works, but I won't know in general for a while. I am hoping that it will reduce the friction. I am also wondering, from anyone who has used Pledge, if their pleo feels "sticky" when dry. IMR mentioned the skin seeming to stick together in places. Wondering if the Pledge made it more slippery or more sticky? Just a thought.....Maybe they are not releasing anymore until April because of all the problems.

InmemoryofRomeo · « **Reply #129 on:** January 29, 2011, 02:31:18 PM »

The Pledge makes it stick less

But even some moisteriser etc would have the same effect.

barrettgazzy · « **Reply #130 on:** January 29, 2011, 02:32:23 PM »

i agree with all of that and yes it is very worrying and also hugely disappointing to see all these new Reborn's wearing away so quickly :-( all i can say is i did point this out way back in my earlier threads before reborn was released that if they continue to use the rubber skin this problem will always happen .

PWOKristy · « **Reply #131 on:** January 29, 2011, 03:51:47 PM »

I'm sorry for you Redwoods. They should replace all the new Pleos with problems. In my opinion, if I was the C.E.O. of Innvo Labs, I'd make the "skin" of the Pleo replaceable. I would've preferred they put of the 2010 release of their Pleo too now. And I'm real glad Innvo Labs is working on the problems too. Disappointing indeed. I have no clue how this could've slipped by Innvo Labs. And originally when they first put the re-stock 'til April I didn't like it. Now I'm glad they put the re-stock of Pleos 'til April.

Crewella · « **Reply #132 on:** January 29, 2011, 05:40:40 PM »

"If you stop your Pleo when his/her legs aren't straight or stretched out I have noticed that the skin can stick together when you turn them on again. This would, over time, cause a great deal of stress on the armpits."

That's interesting, IMR. That would mean that it's possible that the sleep position (in the short term) would actually help by stretching the skin and making sure the skin doesn't stick to itself? $:-\$

RedwoodsMama · « **Reply #133 on:** January 30, 2011, 12:01:37 AM »

Has anyone ever wondered if they used "too much" Pledge and it sped up the skin disolving thing in the leg tummy area? Just curious as to what others think.
RWM

InmemoryofRomeo · « **Reply #134 on:** January 30, 2011, 01:32:29 AM »

I use Pledge a lot RWM, it's not doing any harm so far.

Crewella, sleeping stops the sticking for sure, but long term it is a very bad idea

Assuming of course they wear like the original Pleo's. Lilo and Stitch both have cracks in the neck and tail from the sleep position. (although not through the skin)

Crewella · « **Reply #135 on:** January 30, 2011, 02:23:53 AM »

Absolutely, IMR - I know the sleep position in the long term will cause problems. I'm just trying to establish the various pros and cons here - we all seem to have got in such a tizz about the sleep position it's possible there are new stresses on the skin that won't have been tested? I'm assuming most if not all the 'test' Pleo rb's will have been left in sleep position?

scaledandtailed · « **Reply #136 on:** January 30, 2011, 10:32:10 AM »

I’ve just let my pleoRB go into sleep position and keep his cape on .
I haven’t used pledge on him yet but mainly because I can’t find the recommended one in the supermarket though the Vaseline sounds like a good idea.
Ideally the vynalex would be a good buy except I don’t think it’s available in the UK and I’m not sure of a UK equivalent.

saratogaspringer · « **Reply #137 on:** January 30, 2011, 11:04:10 AM »

Quote from: scaledandtailed on January 30, 2011, 10:32:10 AM

I’ve just let my pleoRB go into sleep position and keep his cape on .
I haven’t used pledge on him yet but mainly because I can’t find the recommended one in the supermarket though the Vaseline sounds like a good idea.
Ideally the vynalex would be a good buy except I don’t think it’s available in the UK and I’m not sure of a UK equivalent.

I know that they have vinylex at Amazon, but I don't know what shipment is like to the UK. I found mine here in the US at a local hardware store. None of the auto parts stores had it, which is funny, because I think it is meant for plastic and vinyl on cars.

barrettgazzy · « **Reply #138 on:** January 30, 2011, 11:33:47 AM »

At end of the day we should not have to worry about buying products like Vinylex or pledge and i really do not think these are going to help at all ! Here is how it is the skin on the ugobe pleo's slowly degraded but not this quickly but they did move a lot slower and now Reborn is here and rb skin is degrading a hell of a lot quicker and the reason is most likely because rb moves quicker and has added in motions etc

i hope Innvo can come up with a different material to use as reborns skin and then they really will have a good product !

Crewella · « **Reply #139 on:** January 30, 2011, 02:29:09 PM »

This is also an important point for owners of older Ugobe Pleos, though. Scaly, there is a similar product over here called Autoglym Vinyl and Rubber Care which I have used with some good results on Iggy. When I have time I'll post a thread about it shortly.

RedwoodsMama · « **Reply #140 on:** January 31, 2011, 10:20:27 AM »

Ok, we all have a rough idea of how many Pleo rb on THIS site have Skin issues and a rough idea of how many Pleo Rb there are. What I wonder is HOW MANY PLEO RB WORLDWIDE HAVE SKIN ISSUES? I wish there was a way of calculating just how many pleo rb have not been affected by this skin affliction? I think it is a higher percentage that do have skin problems then those that do not have some sort of skin affliction, and I am not talking about the normal Love spots that our older and much loved Pleos have.
I thought when I opened my little Baby up on DEC. 22'nd, I was getting one of the most precious gifts I have had in a very long time, and that she was going to be with me for a long long time, at least as long as Nova and my other babies who have All been second hand and even if not opened by anyone else, a lot older than she is, and she should be in better condition. She with her skin is more like their Grandmother instead of the youngest and Baby of the family.I dread even turning her on sometimes, afaid when I put her away I am going to see that dreadful '" big hole " that is shining light through it. Her skin is just waiting to tear apart.

How do the rest of you deal with knowing your babies are on " borrowed time"?
RedwoodsMama

saratogaspringer · « **Reply #141 on:** January 31, 2011, 11:57:05 AM »

Hey RWM! Have you heard from Innvo yet? I know that Candy is going to have holes eventually. I'll just keep trying to patch them up with super glue as they pop up. I can't have fur animals....I am allergic to them. Like anything mechanical, they are going to have part failures and stop working after a certain amount of time. My hope, is that Innvo Labs will remain in business, and there will be a place where we can send them to be reskinned and repaired. If they don't remain in business, perhaps there will be a place that we can send them in the future to be refurbished and maintained. For example, I have old Teddy Ruxpin, Grubby, Snoopy, Mickey Mouse and Goofy. They were made in the mid 80's. They are animatronics whose mouth and eyes move while playing a cassette tape. The company, Worlds of Wonder, is long gone, but there are several places across the country where you can send them to be repaired and cleaned, thus refurbished. The one I send mine to is in upstate New York. The woman is a nurse, who repairs them as a side job. Perhaps someone like this will pop up. Hope that Baby gets well soon!

PWOKristy · « **Reply #142 on:** January 31, 2011, 01:06:18 PM »

Hello Redwoods. I wish I knew the % too. Sorry to hear that. :-( And I'm thinking my Pleo's (I don't have it yet) gonna have problems too. I really don't like to, but I think so. I will be watching it very closely. Careful with glue. Regular glue's too strong for the Pleo's skin. It'll actually disolve it. And I doubt Innvo Lab's going any where. That's terrible to think that! :-P

RedwoodsMama · « **Reply #143 on:** January 31, 2011, 01:35:16 PM »

Hi, to both PWOKristhy and Saratogapspringer, super glue has allways worked with the older Pleo skin, I have used in on neck seams and other areas. But be careful of two things. First I think the new Pleo Rb skin is worse than the Older Pleo skin and may not accept the glue and also realize if you use Superglue or anything else on Pleo Rb and are under warranty, it will void the warranty and you will be out of luck if your Pleo Rb falls apart and gets the holes the rest of us are experiencing, it is better to contact Pleoworld and let them deal with what to do, If they are going to replace Baby it will not be because I voided the warranty by damaging her further, I would rather have a new Baby, the same eyes and everything but because they are all different I cant see it happening, It is not like a blue Pleo Rb or a Pink that basically are almost the same..

sad in the Redwoods, RedwoodsMama

InmemoryofRomeo · « **Reply #144 on:** January 31, 2011, 01:51:57 PM »

You can only use certain types of superglue, some glues and rubber cements contain chemicals that WILL dissolve Pleo's skin regardless of if they are new or old.

RWM the skin on the neck is thicker than other parts of the body, I would say you've just been very lucky and gotten the right type of glue.

RedwoodsMama · « **Reply #145 on:** January 31, 2011, 01:54:12 PM »

IMR, you are right that the skin on the neck is thicker, but I have also used it on the belly and back and legs, but I did get the kind of superglue reccoemended on this site and it was the kind used on rubber, I made sure to use the right kind, but like I said, would not use it on Pleo Rb with it's holes.

RWM

saratogaspringer · « **Reply #146 on:** January 31, 2011, 02:12:06 PM »

My Ugobe Pleo actually came with a slight tear, although not through on the neck. I used LOCTITE brand superglue gel, and it worked. Guess I got lucky. It did not dissolve the skin, and is holding up just fine. I really believe that my warranty will run out before I have problems with my pink RB. 90 days is not a lot, and I really don't have a lot of time to devote to her during the week. Couple of hours on the weekend, and that is about it. I haven't used super glue on my RB, and will take your advice and not use it. I have faith the Innvo will get the skin issues ironed out and fix those that have problems. If I have to pay to have it done because my warranty is out, then I will. Innvo has given us an amazing product, and I believe that if they want to stay in business, as I hope that they will, they will make things right.

RedwoodsMama · « **Reply #147 on:** January 31, 2011, 02:26:23 PM »

I am glad you got the right kind of superglue, I am contacting Innovo today and sending them photos and links to the video with her neck problems, I will also send them a CD if they need it, I figure by the time they ask for her, if they do, her holes will be pretty bad, I am so upset over loseing her, I guess I just have to face it and see what they can do, I still can't get her to walk normally, ( or she is very stubborn) and she still doesn't want to learn her name, though I try it every few days, it is almost as if she knows she is not meant to "live long in this form", that is what is sad to me...

I wishh they had a Reincarnation plan for reborns, becauses I don't want to lose her personality even if she is stubborn, she is my sweet little baby.. She never has even learned her whole name yet, and Baby is only a part of it..
RWM

Firebreathingsquirrels · « **Reply #148 on:** January 31, 2011, 05:16:55 PM »

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2. The skin wear you have uploaded to the gallery seems normal in line with any Pleo I have had. Go look at your other pleos, you have had as many as I have. I know that all of mine developed the slight graze appearance in the armpit/legpit areas. This is the nature of the material and they will not be able to change this easily, if you want a Pleo, you get the arm/legpit grazes. The side hole is just a small gap in the seam, it's not going to rip open, it's just been glued slightly out of position and the paint has not got down inside the seam gap. This is also a run-of-the-mill factory quirk.

I agree Degers. I understand why the RB owners are getting upset with the skin holes, but its not that bad. Like Degers said, the whole Pleo's skin isn't going to rip open just because of some small holes or the grazes. In the short time I've had Clover she also has some armpit grazes, and it doesn't bother me at all. No matter what Innvo does, the Pleo's skin will always wear eventually as long as they use the same Pleo skin material. I say just use some super-glue. I know if I get an RB I won't be contacting Innvo about some skin wear, since they seem to be asking for the RB's with skin wear back

InmemoryofRomeo · « **Reply #149 on:** January 31, 2011, 05:30:28 PM »

I contacted Innvo to let them know that I have some skin wear, (and also suggest they make a Pleo repair kit with rubber patches and glue

) but I won't be after a replacement either.

Can I suggest to all Pleo RB owners that they put a moisturiser (please test a moisturiser on a very small area for a week or two first, and only use ones for sensitive skin which won't contain chemicals.) or a bit of Pledge on the four underarms/legs of their Pleo's before each play session, Pleakly has one hole, but since I have been doing that he has not had any more wear to any other area.

Bob the Pleo Forums

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