I don't live as far away as some of you so I can imagine your frustration, but I do agree with degers on this one on some of the points, I am not discussing skin issues and such as I have gotten brand new Pleos, the older variety that haven't been hatched but had little skin inperfections and I do think it is just related to production flaws. I have seen pinpoint size holes etc in some new Pleos, but not Pleo Rb as I just got myne and have not made a 100% head to toe eyeglass magnifying glass inspection yet, just too excited, but I will calm down in a few weeks..

As for contacting Innova, I can say that the number that degers gave you to call is the best number for customer satisfaction . I have used that number on several occasions and allways been treated politly with enhusiasim and the utomost courtesy. It is rare in my opinion to have someone in charge of a business such as this to take the time to talk to the people who buy and love Pleo as we here on the forum do, I respect this man immensly and have had my faith restored in human relations and know that if there were to be ANY problems with my Pleo Rb, that someone would take care of it right away in a timely manner and I would not have to worry about it being returned to me in the manner I sent if it came to that. I am so happy with the inmprovements that have been given to Pleo rb and I think it was well worth the wait even if I felt like I was never going to get it at some moments.

I do think that it is like degers stated and it holds true for Pleo rb or any other product, if you are not happy with Pleo rb, return it and leave it at that. I have purchased both a expensive ( for me ) camera camcorder as well as a HD Tv Computer monitor that did not work when purchased and it was discouraging but as simple as returning them and waiting for them to be returned with the things needed fixed. If I get a product and it continually has problems then I look for another brand, ( May not be so simple with Pleo rb but mayby you should just wait till one shows up on Ebay after the holidays, even if it is not the one you want, it could be cheaper and closer to where you live.) And one word on shipping, I got my pre order in and the shipment news and mailed out on the 17th, but my Pleo rb was not even expected till tommrow the 17'th, so it still showed up a day early. And as degers said, there was a good good chance that these would not even be ready to ship till after the New Year, so I am inpressed that they actually got shipped before the end of the year, let alone for any of them to arrive INTIME FOR CHRISTMAS///1

I do hope you get your Pleo Rb situation sorted out, but I for one am very happy with my pleo RB thus far, just in the fact it is here and give an A+ to service in customer spport for my question and I had someone who listened to my comments and did want feedback as well.
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