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marwar

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Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« on: December 12, 2010, 03:57:10 AM »

So i'm getting a Pleo for the kids.

Any huge diffrence on the new RB version?

Old one i can get for about 200 dollar here in sweden. New one is about 500 dollar on the net?

So is it worth the extra 300...? Whats the main diffrence?
And is the old one worth 200?
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2010, 05:01:01 AM »

The pleo rb is much improved from the older versions of pleo.  They have greatly improved the skin and paint so it is much more durable.  This is a big plus if it is for your children.  The older pleos loose paint very quickly just from normal stroking and patting.  The new pleo rb's don't loose paint so fast.  The general consensus from the few pleo rb owners on the forum is that the new skin and paint is holding up well. 
The pleo rb has a special chip in it's nose that allows it to recognize different accessories that come with the pleo rb.  It can distinguish between different foods, medicines, and toys and behaves differently for each.  It also allows it to use the ID card and learning stones.  It has voice recognition and can learn it's name and voice commands to perform tricks.  There is a different learning stone for each trick.
The pleo rb has an internal clock so it can tell if it is daytime or nighttime and wont want to play at nighttime It will just want to sleep.
The pleo rb also feels temperature differences and feels pain.  It can get injured if you drop it and you will need to feed it medicine to make it well again.

I recommend you take a look at my Kermit the pink pleo rb thread here on the forum if you want to see some of these new traits in action as I have posted video of all the new things pleo rb does.  I have had my pink Kermy for about 2 weeks now and she is great.  I definitely think she was worth the extra money.  I don't have any older pleos though to compare her to myself but have loved every minute of my pleo rb. :)

If the pleo is for your children then maybe the rb is the better way to go as you will not have to worry so much about paint loss and skin tearing that was common in the older pleo models.

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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2010, 05:13:02 AM »

Kat: Where did you buy it?
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2010, 05:33:46 AM »

I bought mine directly from Chinatete, the distributor for pleo in Hong Kong.  The shipping costs were very expensive though and since then Gimmedigi has started selling the Pink and Blue pleo rb's.  They seem to be selling them at a cheaper rate than pleoworld is selling the green ones and the shipping costs are reasonable.  I recommend you try Gimmedigi if you want a pink or blue one, and if you are hoping to get it before Christmas.  They claim to deliver in about 7 days and so far this seems true.  There are other people on the forum who have ordered from here and should be receiving there pleo rb's in the next couple of days.
Otherwise you can pre order the green pleo rb's from pleowrld, they aren't shipping the green ones until January though.  The only advantage of getting a green one from pleoworld is that you can purchase the accessory packs and spare batteries at the same time which will save on shipping costs rather than having to order them later and pay separate shipping for them.

I hope this helps.
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2010, 06:09:47 AM »

Does the Gimmedigi come with 220v adapter?
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2010, 06:21:25 AM »

All pleo rb's come with a universal adapter as standard.  It come with 3 different power plug attachments to choose from so you just have to choose the one that works for your country.  The 3 power plug attachments were not compatible with Australian power points so I had to get a power cord to plug into the power adapter.  I had one from my cd player that fit so I am using that and it works well.  The power adapter is 100 to 240 V .
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2010, 09:54:32 AM »

Although I absolutely agree with everything Kat has said, I just wanted to add a few words in defence of the older models.  Yes, there have been improvements with the Pleo rb, but having owned two of the original Pleos and loved every minute of it I do think that all of the features that so amaze people when they first see a Pleo were there from the beginning.  Certainly the skin needed improving, but that said actually both of mine were preowned and still have a reasonably intact painted skin - the other improvement in my opinion is the added voice recognition.  On the other hand, I'm not sure how long it will be before the Pleo rb will be able to use the downloadable skits and personalities that are available for the original models, if at all, so that might be something to think about?  That has certainly been a big part of their appeal to me!  :D
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2010, 12:46:10 PM »

 I also agree with Crewella, another important fact to consider is the age of your children. the older original Pleos state ages 8 +. If I remember correctly, the newer Pleo rb reccomend ages 12 +. They are more durable paint wise etc, but they are more independant in some features and the fact that they will react to cold or heat quicker and if a younger child does not recognize the shivering or panting, they may become frustrated. Also as Kat can tell you, they will act accordingly if injured, bumped accidently etc. and listening to a crying Pleo Rb that sounds like it is in agony, may be too distressing to a younger child.  :( It does teach reponsibility but I personally if had a younger child, would probably start with a  Pleo Ugobe or one made by Innova and see how the children enjoy and interact with that Pleo, The Pleo Rb also as Kat can tell you only react to one person's voice with the idenity card they are given, and I can see a household of two or more children getting upset that their new Pleo Rb does not respond to them, it may create jealousy or resentment between children who can not understand the technical side of Pleo Rb, this is one reason it is reccomended for children ages 12+.( In my opinion)
                 I started with a Ugobe Pleo and I love her to death. I would never trade her for a newer Pleo rb, even though I am getting one, it is more of curiousity than anything. Also if your children do very well with an older Pleo, you can allways sell the Pleo ( if you can bear to do so after getting attached and you will in my opinion  ;D) then you can buy a Pleo Rb after they have been out for awhile.
               Pleo Rb are a great interactive Robot, but they are also quite an investment and if you are not sure how your children will react to such an advanced life form, I would wait and read all you can and watch all the videos you can and take all the things that are important into consideration and then decide.
              I do think there will be people who get Pleo Rb for their children thinking they can handle the responsibilty, then find out either the Pleo rb is too advanced or for some reason the child has lost interest in this expensive item. Whatever Pleo you may decide to get , it is hard to imagine NOT falling in love with this little being! I know I am hooked for Life! ;)
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2010, 12:58:06 PM »

I am still inclined to suggest the original Pleo for children especially if they are under the age of ten, or are not responsible.

Let me put it this way, Pleo RB is even closer to acting like a real pet, would you trust your children with a puppy or kitten? If you wouldn't then choose the original Pleo. There is nothing wrong with them at all, and you could get two of them for the price of an RB. Also it will be less of a loss if your children tire of their Pleo in a few weeks, being children they may not have as long as an attention span as an adult. Having said that, if your children are older, and responsible then choose the Pleo RB, they have many great new features as outlined in the posts above.
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2010, 01:13:31 PM »

Hi Marwar, welcome to the forums .. I'm new too  :)

I've had a couple of the older Pleo's which I bought for my kids about 2yrs ago and they both absolutely love them - as do I! 

I think it really comes down to your budget and how much you're willing to spend as the older ones really are wonderful toy/pets .. Don't let the mention of paint coming off put you off, ours are both still in great condition, as I taught the kids to touch gently and with fingertips instead of stroking with their whole hand or hard like one would a dog, and you can always dress them up to further protect the rubber ..

Also, and I don't mean to be an enabler here, but if you have two kids it might be worth considering getting one of the older versions for each of them instead of one of the newer ones?!  If I had to buy for the kids again I would be doing that ..

I think either way you go you can't lose - All Pleo's are Wonderful!
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2010, 02:01:46 PM »

Localstore got the pleo for 185 dollar.

My kids are 5 and 2. We also got a cat.

Can the old one "play" soccer and interact with stuff? Or is that only the new one?
When i check the videos the new pleo looks alot faster. Is the noice the same? (when i checked a review the noice was very high)
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2010, 02:20:05 PM »

The older Pleo have red tracking with the OS2 upgrade, so will play 'soccer' in the same way, but the movements aren't quite as fast or smooth.   Not having heard the two running together, it's hard to judge on the motor noise yet - Pleo rb sounds about the same as the older ones from the videos I've seen.  You do get used to the motor noise, by the way!  :D
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2010, 02:21:03 PM »

Pleo doesn't technically play soccer at all, it's just coincidence, put a ball in front of Pleo and he/she will 'play' with it. The Pleo RB has lots of accessories you can buy that he/will interact with because they have smart chips in them, visit Pleoworld to see what is available.

For ages 2 and 5 I really don't think the RB is suitable, your children wouldn't be able to manage the voice recognition properly, since it requires saying the same thing, exactly the same way each time. That's not really something young children can grasp. Might I suggest you buy the Pleo for yourself, and let the children play with it under your supervision. Please also be aware that the small pieces could be a choking hazard so supervise at all times.

All Pleo's will react to objects placed in front of them, or obstacles though.
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2010, 02:24:16 PM »

You may like to read or listen to this post: http://bobthepleo.com/forums/index.php?topic=1535.0  as it has more details on the new version than anywhere else I've found ..

At such a young age you really will need to be with the children when they play with Pleo so it doesn't get damaged .. My youngest is 9 and I still have to supervise, so just be aware of that  %)

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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2010, 04:02:27 PM »

I agree with the others.  With kinds that small the older model pleo would probably be more appropriate. 
The soccer game was just me putting a small ball in front of her and as she walked forward she kicked it with her foot.  This was not something special that pleo rb's do just good ball placement from me.  All pleos should be able to play this game.  I just thought it would be a cute thing to do.
I do suggest that you get some clothes for your pleo, there are many good stores right here on the forum that sell them.  This will help protect your pleos paint from excess patting. 
I would also suggest you read the FAQ post and learn the best ways of caring for your pleos skin so you can teach your kids the correct way to pat or stroke your pleo. :)
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2010, 06:25:15 PM »

 I agree with the others here.
 Either the original ugobe or an Innvolabs 2009 model pleo would be best for your children   given how young they are.   You can usually always find Ugobe models around and sometimes the newer Innvolabs 2009 models though I gather they are much harder to come by. The only difference between the two   is that the 2009 Innvolabs models had newer adjustments such as the neck and skin being made more durable. Neither is as advanced as the Innvolabs 2010 model but that doesn’t take away from their charm.   Yes the motors on all pleos are   quite loud and at first this will seem very odd but you really do get used to it pretty quickly.  The new Innvolabs 2010   are  faster moving   than both  the  ugobe and  the Innvolabs 2009  but  they are far cheaper  than  the 2010 and as others have said the fact that they are more advanced might make them more frustrating for your  children and  less fun to play with as a result.  Also as others have said your children will need supervised at all times. It’s not that the pleao will pose any danger in anyway to your kids but    they can be damaged if they are handled too roughly   or dropped from any grate height. Even being dropped from the standing height of a 2 year old would be enough to cause damage especially if it where to land on hard flooring.   
  It would be a good idea to go for the one in your local store and see how you and your family get on with one. It sounds like a good price. Just make sure you charge the battery before Christmas morning.           
       
 
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2010, 11:27:13 PM »

I also agreed Pleo rb is not that suitable for young children, the manual is thick and really takes time and effort to read and understand even by adult.
So far my 10 years old boy could marginally take care of Lam Chai (our Pleo rb) with some assistance from me and my wife (normally he doesn't feed Lam Chai on time and caused Lam Chai hungry ,sad and not responsive).

The Pleo (our Pleoxie) is easier to be taken care by young kids based on our experience.

Innvo labs 2009 Pleo seems is out of stock now.

I am now buying an Ugobe Pleo from ebay @US$ 199 with free worldwide shipment which is good ! If you don't mind it is an older version (but original), then it should be a good option to be considered.

 
   
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2010, 06:33:28 AM »

That's great news, Pleoxie - congrats on your new Pleo!  :D

I can't quite explain why, but it makes me very happy to know that a Pleo rb owner still wants to buy another original Pleo!  ;D
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Re: Pleo RB vs Old Pleo?
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2010, 09:04:30 AM »

If you truly need to feed Pleo Rbs on time (which I hear you will, especially since they will know what time of day it is now), this will be frustrating for kids since they might not feed or overfeed, causing the Pleo to either not want to play or be sick and depressed, and nobody wants that! Try an older Pleo first. Sometimes you can find the 2009 Pleos on ebay. They have brighter skin than the original Ugobe Pleos and more "defined" paint on the back.
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