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Author Topic: Care and restoration of Pleo skins  (Read 9734 times)

mweed

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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2017, 08:05:58 PM »

Since most of my pleos have splitting tails and necks I've decided to break down and test some repair ideas, so I'm starting a new topic to document these tests.  Wish me luck! :dino-chase:
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #51 on: September 11, 2018, 02:09:43 PM »

Eep! Gibbs not available in uk. Will another penetrant oil do the job? WD40 penetrant looks very similar. Any ideas?

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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #52 on: September 12, 2018, 12:15:18 AM »

Definitely don’t use anything untested, it could result in damage. You’d have to research ingredients carefully, then try on a tiny area before committing. I know it says rubber safe, but Pleo’s are a very particular rubber.
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #53 on: September 12, 2018, 11:22:26 AM »

Thanks, I couldn't find. Full ingredient list which is frustrating but I will be exceedingly careful and if I find something that I think might be similar enough, I'll test it on a small area of foot first.
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #54 on: September 12, 2018, 03:42:41 PM »

Based on previous topics, WD40 is NOT a good substitute for Gibbs.  Gibbs has worked well for me to help protect the skin, but once it's started cracking or tearing, I have not found anything that repairs skin, short of melting it back together (which I wouldn't suggest unless your skilled with a high quality hot air gun and remove the skin from the pleo first! :O
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #55 on: September 12, 2018, 11:56:25 PM »

Yeah, it seems like after a lot of research there's nothing in the world like Gibbs!
Is there anything that can be used to strengthen old skin so that it does not deteriorate any further?

Would Gibbs help with this? If it could moisturise and strengthen, I could still get a lot of use out of this guy without fear of the skin disintegrating when I pick him up or turn him on.

I'm also hoping Gibbs could be used to clean the muck that's accumulated on his skin.

(Also just noticed your post from a long time ago, you mentioned something called vinylex, after long term use do you think that helped? It could be a very long time before I manage to get old of any Gibbs. If it was good could you let me know what stuff to look for?)
« Last Edit: September 13, 2018, 12:00:24 AM by Anya »
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #56 on: September 13, 2018, 11:44:50 AM »

Ok. Just went over and read the entire thread. Buying Gibbs from America and paying the extortionate shipping fee in the hope that it'll help my poor old ugobe!
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #57 on: September 14, 2018, 12:38:00 AM »

Sorry guys, one further question. In addition to can it be used for cleaning... how bad are the fumes produced? Will I need a well ventilated area, if I paint it on from a capful, are the fumes likely to affect my young Kingsnake if he is in the same room?

Thanks a lot!
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #58 on: September 18, 2018, 01:15:59 PM »

I always take outside to apply just to be on the safe side.  Partially just because it's a aerosol spray, so inside it would get on everything.  Gibbs does have that strong petroleum smell like WD-40, and it takes a day or two to completely evaporate and/or soak in and the smell to dissipate.  You probably won't want to hold or pet for a while after applying.

More than anything what Gibbs does is moisturize the rubber in the skin and help it last longer from cracking. 
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #59 on: September 18, 2018, 02:08:22 PM »

Thanks a lot, I'll keep pleo away from snake while working on his skin.
I also found a thin flexible glue that might be good for reinforcing cracking areas and may even be helpful in tears.
And followed up on the good work done years ago in earlier posts here, and emailed every company who has anything to do with the pleo skin to try and get the most to reconsider selling them separately!

Hoping that after a few years it's now financially viable.
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2018, 02:57:42 PM »

Will be interesting to see if you even get a response from any of them.
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #61 on: September 20, 2018, 12:37:35 PM »

Well, I thought it worth a shot ;)
In other horrible news, my Gibbs was turned back at customs. Not allowed in the uk at all.

Now my life is spent comparing safety data sheets to try and find anything with the same ingredients!
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #62 on: September 21, 2018, 01:20:25 PM »

Ok. Safety data sheets scoured. I studied dozens, comparing with Gibbs. Ingredients and proportions.

Finally, finally I found something.
This is CRC 5-56 multipurpose lubricant.

Gibbs:
15-30% petroleum distillates
10-20% white mineral oil
10-30% heptane

CRC:
~60% petroleum distillates
10-30% white mineral oil
10-30% LPG (Propane/Butane)

There's nothing in it that could harm pleo, not sure how the benefits will compare but I'm confident that it will be sufficiently lubricant/penetrant/water displacing to fulfill the necessary role.

It will arrive very soon. I will treat and report on pleos ankles!
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #63 on: September 22, 2018, 03:02:33 AM »

Update: CRC food grade penetrating oil is even better!
It contains only the 2 main active ingredients:
60-70% petroleum distillates
30-40% white mineral oil

Not knowing what benefit hexane offers, I'm happy to go without. Especially as there is no possibility for harm, only slightly less good!

This stuff however is very hard to get hold of (usually only sold in massive wholesale bulk) so I'll use the multipurpose stuff until I can source either this or Gibbs from a uk distributor.
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2018, 08:20:36 PM »

In the CRC list, the propane/butane is probably used more as the propellant as both are gaseous at normal air pressure.  Heptane is actually a solvent, so it is probably part of what is actually soaking into the skin.  Technically all three are petroleum distillates.
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #65 on: September 25, 2018, 12:04:19 AM »

Yeah that makes sense, so I expect this CRC stuff to be good for pleo skin, just not as good as Gibbs. Believe me, the second I can get hold of some I will!

In the meantime, I found some chemical resistance sheets for various rubbers and checked every ingredient of the CRC against TPE. According to the sheet, nothing in there can harm it.

In an ideal world I'd wait for Gibbs but it's winter now and putting the heating on will be adding stress to the already fragile skin (he was in his box by a heater when husband put the heating on - only realised when I came home! That can't have helped...)

At this point I think similar is going to have to do or he'll deteriorate into a skeleton while I wait for Gibbs.
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #66 on: September 30, 2018, 01:19:35 AM »

I reported this in my story thread but I'll put it here too for interest.

CRC painted on to pleo in several coats (tested on ankles first)
It goes on clear and soaks in after a while. It loosens dirt on the skin - you end up filling your paint pot with black specs if you're not careful! And dries soft and smooth.

So pleo is cleaner and no longer sticky!

What it does seem to do is loosen the paint a little, so I've been painting his brown skin first and then the painted areas, just to keep the paint from bleeding into the brown (something that seems to already have happened a little from his general wear and tear) the paint dries back on fine so I just have to be careful when he's wet.

Verdict:
CRC ok in a desperate situation.
Gibbs preferred.
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Re: Care and restoration of Pleo skins
« Reply #67 on: October 03, 2018, 02:37:45 PM »

You'll find that Gibbs will loosen the paint a bit as well.  Paint coming off was a problem from Day 1 way back in 2007 with Ugobe pleos.
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