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Halloween
« on: October 04, 2013, 03:10:41 PM »

I decided to start this thread since halloween is coming, and i want to hear what you do and how you celebrate. As you may not know, Halloween is one of my favorite things. I try to wear a different costume each year. I like going to parties and getting candy. I also enjoy looking at decorations, figuring out how they work.
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Re: Halloween
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2013, 05:56:17 PM »

Halloween is a very low key event over here in Australia.  When I was little we didn't celebrate it at all and I wasn't even really aware of it's existence until I got older.  Over the last ten years it seems to have picked up a little with decorations sold in shops and a small handful of kids trick or treating, although last year we had no trick or treaters turn up at all so it may be that the families that celebrate it have moved on.  We have had quite a few houses in our area sell in the last couple of years with a lot of new people moving in to the area.  As for us we have lollies to give out to any trick or treaters and my pleos will dress up and enter any Halloween pleo comps that happen here but apart from that we don't really celebrate. 
This year I am going to be away at a conference in Canberra foe Halloween and we are having a Halloween fancy dress dinner :)  So I have my witches hat all ready to pack.  I will be interested to see just what happens at a Halloween dinner :)
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Re: Halloween
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2013, 07:26:30 PM »

Most of my Halloween activities are done online, the Bob the Pleo scavenger hunt that usually happens every year is a real highlight for me. I play a virtual pet game, Chicken Smoothie, who run a big halloween event that is always lots of fun.

My town is full of UK and US expats/students so there are some houses that put up decorations and the bakeries and restaurants usually have special halloween themes and foods in October. We do get trick or treaters and candy imported from America and Japan is available in the shops as well as singing/dancing halloween toys, I usually like to get one of the toys. I have a Frankenstein doll that holds a pumpkin and the doll and pumpkin will sing a duet of 'Monster Mash', very cute!

Pumpkins for carving have also recently been available from local farmers, they sell them on the side of the road. Before the farmers started selling the pumpkins people would carve oranges instead  :P Once in primary school an American relief teacher wanted us to do pumpkin carving but the type of pumpkin Americans usually carve are not commonly available in the shops here so she had us carving oranges instead  :D I know a few people here who do it with oranges if they can't source a pumpkin.
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Re: Halloween
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2013, 10:29:27 PM »

No halloween here either, it is slowly getting more popular but very, very, very slowly.
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Re: Halloween
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2013, 02:48:18 AM »

I have a life size seed of chucky prop by sideshow i usually get him out the box to display for Halloween :-D
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Re: Halloween
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2013, 05:41:02 AM »

People here in Sweden doesn't really celebrate Halloween, wich is a shame :(. Halloween is only an opportunity to sell lots of merchandise, that's all Sweden seems to care for, the money, just like the other holidays here... Heck, the stores have already started to sell Christmas stuff o_O

It's really a shame cause I like Halloween. But sure, some people seems to celebrate it here, but not many. Sometimes there's kids that knock on your door and expect some candy. The thing is, that they haven't even dressed up for Trick or Treating! It's really stupid.  But we do celebrate easter, almost like it would be our kind of Halloween. Kids will knock on your door for some candy dressed up as witches and stuff.

I really want to celebrate Halloween and dress up! I've been to an Halloween party once in school, but as you would have guessed, only a few was dressed up...!  :'(

Ahh, I guess I'll have to watch scary movies instead  :)
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Re: Halloween
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2013, 05:43:37 AM »

I have a life size seed of chucky prop by sideshow i usually get him out the box to display for Halloween :-D

Woah, that's awesome! I love Chucky! But I don't think that I would want a Chucky doll in my house, haha! I was kind of traumatized by the first movie when I was a kid, lol!  :o
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Re: Halloween
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2013, 09:56:03 PM »

I find it interesting that the rest of the world doesn't seem to celebrate it :/. Must be mainly a North American thing. My town does a "Haunt Your House" event or something where the best decorated house gets a bunch of prize money. Not to mention the fact that some people around here spend hundreds on costumes... Always fun when some nubblet poisons the candy or puts razors in it. Good going buddy! Good GOING!!!!! At least that didn't happen to me when I used to go.
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Re: Halloween
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2013, 10:30:06 PM »

I heard about that scandle. I heard about the razors and poison when i lived in california. Luckily, it never happened to anyone in my areas. But i don't think it happened in california.
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Re: Halloween
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2013, 12:26:11 AM »

   if YOU READ BELOW, YOU WILL SEE THAT ALL BUT 2 CASES ARE URBAN LEGENDS. I have been trick or treating or taking chilfren since the 1960's and have lived in CA. since 1967,, no poison only one needle story, goes with the Halloween theme. interesting reading also.             RWM :cat-hug:


Halloween Poisonings
 
Claim:   Police have documented cases of people randomly distributing poisoned goodies to children on Halloween.




  FALSE
 


Origins:   Tales of black-hearted madmen doling out poisoned Halloween candy to unsuspecting little tykes have been around for decades — they were part of my Halloween Trick or Treat! experience nearly forty years ago. And every year sees the same flurry of activity in response to such rumors: radio, TV and newspapers issue dark warnings about tampered candy and suggest taking the little ones to parties instead of collecting goodies door-to-door. Even Ann Landers published a column in 1995 warning us against the mad poisoner, saying, "In recent years, there have been reports of people with twisted minds putting razor blades and poison in taffy apples and Halloween candy." (Recent years? Poison?)

 It's a sadness that a holiday so thoroughly and greedily enjoyed by kids is being sanitized out of existence in the name of safety. Sadder still is there appears to be little reason for it.

 Though I've yet to find evidence of a genuine Halloween poisoning, I have uncovered a few isolated incidents initially reported as random poisonings that, upon further investigation, turned out to be something else.

 Let's set the criteria for what constitutes a Halloween poisoning and then examine the famous and not-so-famous cases often pointed to as examples of this horror:
To qualify as a Halloween poisoning, poisoned candy has to be handed out on a random basis to children as part of the trick-or-treating ritual inherent to Halloween. The act cannot be targeted to any one specific child.
 By far the most famous case of Halloween candy poisoning was the murder of eight-year-old Timothy Marc O'Bryan at the hands of his father, Ronald Clark O'Bryan, in Houston, Texas. The child died at 10 p.m. on 31 October 1974, as a result of eating cyanide-laced Pixie Stix acquired while trick-or-treating.

 To make his act appear more like the work of a random madman, O'Bryan also gave poisoned Pixie Stix to his daughter and three other children. By a kind stroke of fate, none of the other children ate the candy.

 The prosecution proved the father had purchased cyanide and had (along with a neighbor)


 

 accompanied the group of children on their door-to-door mission. None of the places visited that night were giving out Pixie Stix. Young Mark's life was insured for a large sum of money, and collecting on this policy has always been pointed to as the motive behind this murder.

 Though the case was circumstantial (no one saw the father poison the candy or slip the Pixie Stix into the boy's bag), Ronald O'Bryan was convicted of the murder in May 1975. He received the death sentence and was executed by lethal injection on 31 March 1984 (not on the poetically-just 31 October as is often recounted in off-the-cuff retellings of the case).

 The O'Bryan murder was an attempt to use a well-known urban legend to cover up the premeditated murder of one particular child. (Note that for this explanation of the boy's murder to have been believed, the legend had to have been in wide circulation by 1974.) Though cold-blooded and horrible to contemplate, this crime still does not qualify as a genuine Halloween poisoning because there was nothing random about Timothy O'Bryan's death. (The specter of the mad poisoner from the 1982 Tylenol murders was similarly employed by various murderers attempting to cover their tracks.)


Trick or Treat!

 Another attempt to obscure the circumstances surrounding a little boy's death by invoking this legend took place in Detroit in 1970. On 2 November 1970, 5-year-old Kevin Toston lapsed into a coma and died four days later of a heroin overdose. Analysis of some of his Halloween candy showed it had been sprinkled with heroin.

 This case was widely reported as a real-life example of Halloween sadism. Not nearly so widely circulated were the results of the police investigation, which concluded the boy had accidentally got into his uncle's heroin stash and poisoned himself, and that the family had sprinkled heroin on the kid's candy after the fact to protect the uncle.

 Antedating both these stories is the odd case of Helen Pfeil, a Greenlawn, N.Y. housewife who was arrested in 1964 for handing out arsenic-laced ant poison buttons as part of a self-evident Halloween joke. Annoyed that many of the trick-or-treaters were too old to be asking for free candy, she made up packages of inedible "treats" to give to the teenagers. The packages contained dog biscuits, steel wool pads and the ant buttons (which were clearly marked "Poison" and labeled with a skull and crossbones). She also took the precaution of telling the teenagers that the packages were a joke when she handed them out, and there is no record of anyone's being harmed by her actions. Even so, the potential for harm was there so she was charged. She pled guilty to endangering children and eventually received a suspended sentence.

 What initially appeared to be a (non-Halloween) random poisoning attempt aimed at children occurred in Emerson, N.J. On 8 October 1988, The New York Times said traces of strychnine were found in a box of Sunkist Fun Fruits Dinosaurs purchased on September 23 in a New Jersey grocery. The suspicious powder the State Police lab had initially labeled strychnine was retested by the Food and Drug Administration and pronounced corn starch.

 The New York Times printed the updated version of the story on 14 October 1988, but not before Thomas J. Lipton Inc. (the manufacturer of Fun Fruits) destroyed 9400 cases of the product. The company maintained that the negative publicity surrounding this story had an adverse effect on their image. Though it's impossible to accurately measure such things, I believe their claim has merit. It's human nature to recall the destruction of the candy but forget it was a false alarm, and it is only reasonable to assume their image was somewhat damaged. (Those initial "Oh my god!" news stories do a fair deal of damage because bits of them stay in the average person's memory whereas retractions or follow-ups do not. Since they lend apparent credence to a myth that's already believed, these "facts" don't get discarded when new information comes along.)

 After Halloween 1994, a three-year-old New Britain, Connecticut, child was diagnosed as suffering from cocaine poisoning. Though he'd been sick earlier in the day and also had a habit of putting anything he found in his mouth, the finger was immediately pointed at tampered Halloween candy (with all the usual attendant media hysteria). More than a week later the local police announced that no traces of cocaine or any other drugs had been found on the leftover piece of candy that was supposed to have poisoned the boy.

 In 1982 the police of Redford Township (Detroit) had to issue a similar statement after a youth there became ill and his doctor misread initial lab results and then went public with charges of cyanide poisoning and doctored Halloween candy. Tests done on the lad to determine what was wrong were inconclusive, and later FDA tests of the candy turned up no contamination whatsoever.

 Another suspected Halloween poisoning occurred in Washington, DC in 1991. 31-year-old Kevin Michael Cherry of Montgomery County coincidentally died of heart failure after eating some of his child's Halloween loot. As told in the 2 November 1991 Washington Times, anxious parents dumped pounds of their kids' candy before the true cause of death was determined by autopsy.

 A further Halloween scare case was that of Ariel Katz, a 7-year-old Santa Monica girl who died of congenital heart failure on 31 October 1990 while trick-or-treating. The police feared a mass random poisoning and acted immediately on what they suspected, as reported in the 2 November 1990 Los Angeles Times:
Santa Monica police had conducted an intense door-to-door search on the street where the youngster collapsed. They feared that other children might have picked up tainted Halloween candy, and they blocked off the 700 block of 12th Street for several hours while they confiscated candy and interviewed residents and revelers.
 Seven-year-old Ferdinan Siquig of San Jose, CA. collapsed on 31 October 1996 after eating candy and cookies he was given while trick-or-treating. Initial urine analysis at the hospital revealed traces of cocaine. Subsequent tests done by outside labs came back negative, and it was further concluded that the initial test results were wrong, but this conclusion was reached at least a day after the media had picked up on the story and scared the bejeezus out of everyone yet again with tales of a poisoner on the loose.

 In 2001, four-year-old Tiffaney Troung of Vancouver died a day after ingesting candy she picked up trick-or-treating on Halloween. Police reacted by issuing an alert to area parents to dump whatever goodies their kids had collected. The cause of death was ultimately pegged as non-contagious sepsis-causing streptococcus bacteria (which can cause everything from strep throat to flesh-eating disease). The Halloween candy Tiffaney ate played no part in her death.

 An odd act of randomness occurred in the town of Hercules, California (near San Francisco) in 2000. Some trick-or-treaters came home with little packets of marijuana done up to look like miniature Snickers bars. Parents of the kids who received this beneficence quickly contacted the police, who just as quickly traced the giveaway to a particular house. There, a mystified homeowner was confronted about the find. Police investigated and were satisfied the homeowner had no knowledge of the special contents of certain bars that were handed out that night.

 The marijuana packets dressed up to look like Snickers bars had landed in the Hercules dead letter office because whoever had tried to mail a package containing them either didn't use enough postage or had listed an incorrect address. A postal employee (the mystified homeowner) charged with transporting the bars plus various canned goods that had accumulated in the dead letter office to a local charity kept the candy for his own use. He brought the "candy" home to give out on Halloween, thinking the Snickers bars were, well, Snickers bars. The "trick" ended up being on him.

 Putting the crazed Halloween poisoner story to rest can be quite the task, as was outlined in a 9 November 1989 article in the Los Angeles Times. The following is an excerpt from an interview with Joel Best, a professor of sociology at California State University, Fresno, who has been trying to debunk this urban legend for more than thirty years:
"We checked major newspapers from throughout the country from 1958 through 1988," he said, "assuming that any story this horrible would certainly be well reported."

 Well, they found a total of 78 cases and two deaths. [The two deaths Best was referring to were the O'Bryan murder and the accidental poisoning of Kevin Toston.] Further checking proved that almost all of the 78 cases were pranks. The deaths were tragically real, but they, too, were misrepresented in the beginning.

 The pranks, he said, were all of kids — after years of hearing similar stories — inserting needles or razor blades into fruit, not realizing (or maybe realizing) how much they frightened their whole town.

 "My favorite," Best says, "was the kid who brought a half-eaten candy bar to his parents and said, 'I think there's ant poison on this.' They had it checked and, sure enough, there was ant poison on it — significantly, on the end he had not bitten." Of course, the youngster had applied the poison himself.

 Best has tried mightily over the years to destroy this particular myth, but obviously to no avail. "It's the old problem of trying to prove a negative," he says.
 Sad to say, foreign objects hidden in Halloween loot are part of the trick-or-treat experience, but these incidents are few and far between, and our fear of them is greatly out of proportion with the likelihood of their occurring. Acting on this out-of-control fear, some hospitals and police departments have taken to x-raying bags of Halloween plunder, as noted in the 31 October 1993 Washington Post:
Of several contacted, only Maryland Hospital Center reported discovering what seemed to be a real threat — a needle detected by X-ray in a candy bar in 1988. But there was never an arrest or resolution in the case.

 In the ten years the National Confectioners Association has run its Halloween Hot Line, the group has yet to verify an instance of tampering, said spokesman Bill Sheehan. "These myths become truisms."
 
 Barbara "truism words were never spoken" Mikkelson

Sightings:   This legend appears in a 1986 Jack Chick tract about the satanic influences of Halloween.

Last updated:   29 October 2009 


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     Best, Joel.   "The Myth of the Halloween Sadist."     Psychology Today.   November 1985   (pp. 14-16).
     Best, Joel and Gerald Horiuchi.   "The Razor
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Re: Halloween
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2013, 08:37:14 AM »


Quote
No halloween here either, it is slowly getting more popular but very, very, very slowly.

Same here.

Only some schools go together dressed up in a parade through the streets with music. With all lights. Looks very cute. But they do not go door to door for candy. We use another name for Halloween: Sint Maarten. But they all take holidays together, because it also has to do with our St. Nicholas. Maybe you know him?  ;)
 
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Re: Halloween
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2013, 09:08:19 PM »

You sure there hasn't been any poisoning incidents? I know there's been dozens of incidents involving metal and razors, so it wouldn't surprise me if there were some poisoning incidents. At my elementary school, they warned against Halloween, saying how it was the day of the devil and sinful and stuff. It was stupid. It's only a day of evil and debauchery for Satanists and stuff.
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Re: Halloween
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2013, 09:09:17 AM »

It is definitely not the day of the devil. It was meant as a day of the harvest. The harvest moon. Then people decided to make it what it is today. I don't remember al the details, but it is for sure not the day of the devil. That rumor may have been brought on by the idea of scaring, and making a scary hallowen display in their yard. You don't find fluffy bunnies...i was told by my step dad as well that the costumes and candy and stuff was brought on by peganism, which is basically no religious beliefs. He said people decided to commercialize it some years ago. In mexico, they celebrate the day of the dead, where they honor their dead in a way. There is more, but i cannot think of it now.
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Re: Halloween
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2013, 02:21:22 AM »

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Re: Halloween
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2013, 07:28:16 AM »

Ouch!  The shipping is more than twice the price of the costume!
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