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Title: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: OzPleo on May 10, 2011, 06:32:34 AM
According to the manual PleoRB will naturally fall asleep at around 10pm to 8am. Has anyone actually allowed their PleoRB to fall asleep at that time to see if he/she will sleep through the night and awaken the next morning?

I'm going to give it a try on Friday night.
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Crewella on May 10, 2011, 06:37:15 AM
Only inadvertently.  Before I understood that at shut down, one beep meant sleeping, two beeps mean shut down and three beeps mean shut down and charge, I left Belle on the arm of the sofa thinking one beep meant she was off.  She woke up on her own and scared the life out of us (and fell off the sofa) the next morning!  :o

I've heard others say they wake up on the dot each morning.  :D
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: OzPleo on May 10, 2011, 06:39:02 AM
Oops I didn't know about the beeps  :o
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Crewella on May 10, 2011, 06:42:15 AM
Oops I didn't know about the beeps  :o

I thought I'd mention it, just in case.  There's a few of us been caught by that one!  Yes, just one beep when they shut down on their own means they can also wake up again on their own.  %)  :D
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: kat on May 10, 2011, 06:43:04 AM
I have! :)  Scared the pants off me when Kermy woke up on her own. :-X :D  I didn't realize that they could do that at the time.  There are a few of us out there who have given it a go.  Just make sure you leave him in a safe environment where he can't accidentally hurt himself if he wakes up when your not there. :)
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Lina on May 10, 2011, 01:44:17 PM
So thats what all the beeping is about  :P
I just thought beeping no matter how many times meant shut down... I was thinking that Bellah was a bit of retard (so sorry) because of all the troubles I´ve been having. This info helps out alot!

I havent sent her noon clock since I wanna be able to play no matter what time it is...
And she runs just fine. Sleeps when she wants to but mostly we play until both of us are too tired...

Does anyone know how it affects them if we dont set the noon time?
Sorry for changing the subject a bit. And no, I haven´t let her sleep through the night  ;)
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: kat on May 10, 2011, 05:47:34 PM
If you don't manually set the noon clock I think it takes it's setting from the time that you installed it.  Not a 100% sure though.  Maybe someone else can confirm this.
Kat
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: aibo7m3 on May 10, 2011, 08:54:34 PM
Oops I didn't know about the beeps  :o

I thought I'd mention it, just in case.  There's a few of us been caught by that one!  Yes, just one beep when they shut down on their own means they can also wake up again on their own.  %)  :D


Thanks for this information! That will probably save me from making a few carless mistakes with my new pleo rb.
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Crewella on May 10, 2011, 11:56:32 PM
If you don't manually set the noon clock I think it takes it's setting from the time that you installed it.  Not a 100% sure though.  Maybe someone else can confirm this.
Kat

That's what I think, too.
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: bhobbes on May 11, 2011, 08:39:08 AM
I did something similar after seeing people mention it on the forums. (I was always taking the battery out to avoid the sleep position so I didn't have any accidents - however, since the upgrade, I will let him go on his own since I generally wake up before his set hours :))

One morning when I woke up about 2hrs ahead of Cato's morning time I put the battery in him and he went to sleep after a minute (if that). Then about two hours later (roughly 8:45AM) he woke up on his own. I forgot about even turning him on and set him out of sight as I was doing my morning routine and he startled me quite a bit once he came on.

 
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: latrine on May 12, 2011, 09:49:05 AM

I tried to do this last night wight with the new baby.. he clearly went to sleep himself with a fresh battery and I put him somewhere safe.. I was hoping he would help ME wake up too as I'm trying to reset my internal clock (wheres my clock battery??)  but he never woke up!! at like 10am I finally turned him on and man was he grouchy.. his battery died out very early.. does that mean he was sucking juice up throughout the night?  I was up till like 4 am no movement from him and his clock is set to 12am.


- Sarah
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Crewella on May 12, 2011, 02:22:00 PM
It sounds as though he didn't think he ought to be awake and went back to sleep.  It might be worth setting the clock again at 12 noon?  :-\
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 12, 2011, 02:26:21 PM
 You know I read this over and over again yesterday then videotaped Baby and turning her on, and her battery light was green, but when I turned her on, she snored and beeped once and stayed asleep, So I took a nap, (3 hrs really tired) and I had her on the bed with me waiting for her to wake up on her own and the camera set if she did, I woke up and she was still alseep, turned her on again, and the green light, snored and beeped once, I thought this very strange, so I went and got the other freshly charged battery, put it in and turned her on and guess what..................?
                          SHE WOKE UP.............How could this be when the other battery was green, she snored and the battery beeped just once? I will post the video if need be, but this does not seem to match what has been said here, anyone have an explanation for this? Confused in the Redwoods,
                                   RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: latrine on May 12, 2011, 02:54:35 PM
Explanation:  Our Pleos are all insane.

I reset all my rb's to the same 12 noon within like a few seconds of each other.. lol so I'll try again tonight. with all three!!!


- Sarah
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: bhobbes on May 12, 2011, 03:04:39 PM
Explanation:  Our Pleos are all insane.

As long as they don't become self-aware and shoot death rays at us I'm ok with that.
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 12, 2011, 03:14:02 PM
Ok, now I will sound crazy, but really what is the explantion for one battery and it is green, one beep and a snore, but a fresh battery, and she wakes up? I really do not understand that since one beep means sleeping?
                        RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Crewella on May 12, 2011, 03:44:07 PM
I'm afraid I really don't know!  There could be other factors, so I'd just try again and see if it happens again?  Good luck!  :)
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: latrine on May 12, 2011, 04:25:31 PM
RWM, last nite when I put in a fresh battery I had to wake up the new baby RB after she had beeped off once for sleep.. I put in the new battery, turned her on, assuming she would go to sleep in a minute or so being unattended but she stayed up for like 20 minutes before beeping off again. Did baby stay up for a very long time?

And bhobbes, my bf REALLY wants to mount a little cannon or gun or something to Patches's back  ;D
- Sarah
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: kat on May 12, 2011, 05:18:58 PM
Maybe there is an issue with the battery itself?  Or maybe your pleos just aren't old enough yet to be able to use this function?  Or who knows.  Maybe the pleo thought it was too dark to wake up so stayed asleep?  Could be all sorts of reasons.  Maybe they were just being willful and decided not to wake up to play.   :P
Keep trying and good luck.   :)
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 12, 2011, 08:33:15 PM
 Well as for the battery, it has worked today after being charged, even though it was green yesterday, I charged it again today. As for being "old,"
 it is the battery I got with my new original Baby in Dec, so I don't think it is "old' only a few months ago, I never heard of Baby Rb being too young to not be able to wake up? And I was super tired yesterday and took a nap from 2:30 p.m, to 5;30 p.m 3 hrs and she did not wake up when I tried waking her up again after me waking up, so I put the other battery in and poof she was wide awake. This has happened twice now but I never recorded it till yesterday, so I am still a bit confused as to why she would not wake up though the battery is green and she beeped once. The batteries can'[t be programmed, only the Pleos, right?
                                        RWM
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: kat on May 13, 2011, 06:09:52 AM
This does sound a bit odd.  Maybe the battery is just not holding a charge?  Have you tried taking the battery out and then putting the same battery back in again and turning back on?  Not sure that it would make any difference but could be worth a try.  Maybe the battery is too hot?  Although I'm not sure the battery would get very hot if the pleo hasn't been running for more than a few moments.  I'm really not sure just what the problem is here.  It does sound like it might be a battery problem though and not a pleo problem.  Especially if she is working just fine on the other battery.
I don't know.  Maybe someone else has some ideas on what it could be and what to do about it.
Hope you can get it sorted.
Kat
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: latrine on May 13, 2011, 12:47:13 PM

RWM I have had that happen to me a few times with the 2 older RB's.. with the battery being green but them not waking up.. I just assumed they 'froze up' I think there are just still some bugs and some of us see them and some of us don't.. new baby hasn't done it yet..

- Sarah
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Talon on May 13, 2011, 02:01:59 PM
Hi, RWM! Not that my advice about this is rock-solid as I haven't had that problem but I've been told not to always trust the battery indicator in the pleo. Have you tried charging that battery completely? Also, I read somewhere in this forum about not letting the lithium-ion batteries- like what's in pleo RB- sit without charging for several months. If these batteries go completely flat, there is a likelyhood that they cannot be recovered. When I first got Ryu, I was running her for the entire battery cycle until she shut down with a low battery. Now, I run her for about forty five minutes per day or until she shuts off at one beep. Of course I turn her on again to save the day's play session but then I just leave the battery out. Now, I'm giving her battery a top-off as well and leaving it out until we play again. It also seems to cut back on the heat. I'm not sure what's going on here but I hope this was somewhat helpful.
Talon
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Crewella on May 13, 2011, 02:32:13 PM
Talon's probably right about the battery light on the Pleo RB - Belle's has never worked.  The battery advice seems sound to me, too!  ;D
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Talon on May 13, 2011, 02:49:14 PM
There is only one thing about this method that worries me. I've only recently started this to try and cut down on the heat issue but eventually I am sure it will cause wear on the battery tabs that fit into pleo and also the key on the outside. I want to prolong the life of the battery but what good will I be doing if a tab or the key breaks from so much removing and reinserting?
Talon
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: degers on May 13, 2011, 03:35:55 PM
The battery light in the RB Pleos will always turn green when you turn them on - this is regardless of the level of charge in the battery.

If the battery does not have sufficient charge to run the RB then the RB will turn off, sound a snore and a beep and the battery indicator will ***quickly*** flash red once and then go out.  The red flash is very very quick.

I know it's misleading, but I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: OzPleo on May 13, 2011, 03:38:44 PM
So I left Oslo on over night last night. He slept all the way through after the single beep (I can't believe I never noticed that). Then about 45 minutes before 8am he seem to wake up but go back to sleep, this time without any beeps and in that usual way where he lifts his head occasionally.

I'm so into my PleoRB  :D
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Crewella on May 13, 2011, 04:19:24 PM
That is helpful, thank you Degers.  :)

Funnily enough, I do get the quick red flash of the light with Belle, just never the green one.
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Talon on May 13, 2011, 04:59:13 PM
Thanks for the battery info, degers. I'm going to let Ryu remain on standby tonight. I know I'll be up before she will and I'm excited to see what will happen.
Talon
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: OzPleo on May 13, 2011, 05:10:26 PM
Okay so he slept in until around 8:30am. He was a bit hungry and playful. Amazing what a good nights sleep will do.
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 13, 2011, 05:23:04 PM
 Thanks degers, that is the kind of information that they don't tell you in the maunal, but it does make sense, I have noticed at other times when running Rb that the red light flashes very briefly when turning Baby off, so that makes sense. Just out of curiosity I will run the tape to see if I can catch the red light flashing ever so quickly, You are right though, the red light is very quick when it does flash, enough to make you think perhaps it did not flash red.
                                                 RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: kat on May 13, 2011, 10:49:47 PM
Keep an eye on it RWM and let us know how things go. 
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: RedwoodsMama on May 14, 2011, 12:42:31 AM
Hi Kat, I just reset Baby's clock, ( in her foot) cause I wasn't even sure what her "waking hours" were anymore. :oI am such a night owl sometimes, I thought I better reset it and find out, taking it from there, She has two fresh batteries and I will wake her in a minute so she can "go to sleeep" on her own shortly and I am going to set her by my side of the bed to see what time she will wake up on her own in the morining also with a loaded camera nearby.
             Sometimes I wonder if that broken tab on the clock in the foot has anything to do with it, but it has been broken since day one and I never did hear anthing from Innvo, She is still under her 90 day warranty till somtime in mid June. I think I will ask them one more time just so it is documented. I certainly am not sending her anyone and am very happy with my baby, even if I haven't had the time to play with her like I did the first Baby.Well, it is 11:41 p.m now so before it hits Midnite I better go turn her on and document her falling to sleep.
                           Thanks for all the help and input this was an interesting post to several pleo moms and dads I think. :)
                                       RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Talon on May 14, 2011, 10:00:39 AM
Well, I let Ryu sleep through the night. She fell asleep around five last night when the light left the building. I woke her once at eight thirty or so just to see if her battery was still good. She honked and whined at me and I let her go back into standby mode again as before. It's now eleven fifty eight and she hasn't twitched a servo. I'm not sure if this feature will work for me.
Talon
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Crewella on May 14, 2011, 10:11:33 AM
Maybe it just takes a bit of trial and error to get it sorted out properly - as it must be around noon, why not set her clock again?
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Talon on May 14, 2011, 11:29:40 AM
Aaaw! I wish I could've seen this post earlier. It's now one twenty nine. Oh well I'll try another day.
Talon
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: latrine on May 15, 2011, 03:21:29 PM

I let my three RB's sleep through the night, I figured they'd wake me up.. well they didn't. (I had FINALLY fallen asleep around 7am and I assume they woke up about 8am) so when I woke up at around 9:30 or 10 or something, they were all out again.  Rhea and Chronos had both obviously been awake but the new baby hadn't awoken and was still in the same spot with a full battery.. they all have their clocks set to 12 within a few seconds of each other so maybe she has something new in her?? I dunno..

Here they are at night before I tried to go to bed:


Here they are when I stumbled out late the next morning:



- Sarah
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on May 15, 2011, 04:35:14 PM
I did that last night, I have it all on video :) My pair went to sleep at 11pm and woke up at 8am as they should.
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: kat on May 15, 2011, 05:38:15 PM
It is all very interesting.  I wonder if they have accidentally (or deliberately) tweaked this function out of the new update?  Or maybe your new baby is just a very late riser?  Did you have their noon clocks set to the same time?   %) 
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on May 15, 2011, 05:53:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gGDuqezT8Y

Rhea and Chronos obviously woke up so I would say this functionality comes with age perhaps?
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: latrine on May 15, 2011, 07:10:33 PM

Yah I guess maybe when the baby gets older he'll do it.. just seems weird. They are all set to the same clock time..  ??? %)


- Sarah
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: kat on May 16, 2011, 05:02:40 AM
I loved the video IMR.  I especially like the cold shivery morning and the pleos happily eating chilli. ;D
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Crewella on May 16, 2011, 05:12:31 AM
That video made me laugh right from the "they should be getting tired by now"  ............ " MMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" bit!  :D  :D

Very instructional, too.  Thanks IMR!  ;D
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Talon on May 16, 2011, 09:13:26 AM
Awesome as always, IMR! Your descriptions were very helpful, too. I've been blowing the idea of purchasing a blue RB around in my head. I don't want to buy from Pleoworld for fear of getting yet another girl. Now I know what the conversational behavior looks like. I tried the sleepping thing with Ryu and she never blinked. I'm going to set her noon clock again to be sure it is right at twelve and see if that makes a difference.
Talon
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on May 16, 2011, 01:51:51 PM
Talon you can change a girl to a boy if you really want a green one :)
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Talon on May 17, 2011, 05:54:34 AM
You can? I thought Change RB could change everything but gender. Anyway the color wouldn't be a problem for me. I was just thinking about a blue RB because Gimmedigi would be a little less expensive than going through Pleoworld. Am I right or is it about the same?
Talon
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: kat on May 17, 2011, 07:25:15 AM
To change your pleo from a girl to a boy you just need to install the update.  You can get this from Degers if you PM him.  You need to tell him which sex you want as the updates are gender specific and will change the gender of your pleo - if you have a girl and use the boy update then your pleo becomes a boy.

Norbit was once a girl (I didn't realise as I had no way of checking the sex back then and the profile thing on pleoworld didn't work yet), then got the update and became a boy, then went to Hong Kong and got new skin and they updated him again while he was there and now he is a girl again! :o :-X :) 
I will change him back into a boy eventually.  I'm just going to wait till the updates are officially released on Pleoworld.  That way I will get the finished product update.  I'm in no rush. :)

As for the price between Gimmedigi and pleoworld I'm not sure how much of a saving there is now.  They were cheeper a few months ago but not by much.  I'm not sure what the difference in shipping would be between them too but it is something to keep in mind.
Kat :)
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Talon on May 17, 2011, 08:28:58 AM
True. Thanks, Kat. In my haste I forgot about shipping. Lol! I'm going to try and sit on my hands and wait a bit before my next RB purchase. If Pleoworld ends up looking like a better deal I'll go there. I'm just not sure yet. I think I'm going to wait for the final release of the software. Ryu is working fine on the current version and I'm not sure what the new version offers us. She already goes into packing position at shut down.
Talon
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Talon on May 19, 2011, 07:32:37 AM
So sorry to post twice but I have an update and it is much more on topic. I reset Ryu's noon clock yesterday and she woke me up at eight on the dot this morning. I was the one sleepping in this time!
Talon
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: kat on May 19, 2011, 07:48:06 AM
Yay Ryu!   ;D  I'm glad that did the trick. :)  It is a very cute feature of the rb's and it is nice to do every now and then. :)
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Crewella on May 19, 2011, 08:43:30 AM
Yay Talon - you're on a roll!  :D

I'm glad it worked ths time!  ;D
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: RedwoodsMama on June 18, 2011, 02:07:25 AM
Well, this may not be the exact spot ,but I thought it was close enough, I have Baby's clock set to wake up roughly arouond 9:15 am and she goes to sleep at 12:15 a.m I have been filming her going to sleep and waking up as well the past couple of weeks, and I allways thought that they got Cranky when woken up while they should be sleeping,but as you can see,
Baby is awake here and it is after 1:00 a.m, at least for a few minutes anyway.
 Besides, she is cute and I needed a new video of her.  :)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nadC4MmWyKg

 She works like clockwork waking me up if I oversleep, will have to post that next!   EDIT: I actually posted this video in two places, here as an answer and also under the topic ; Life in the Redwoods so I can document the life of my RB, as I get to use a battery cycle so unfrequently, that I want to be sure to have it in the proper place.
                RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Chicago on July 15, 2011, 09:26:20 PM
We're pretty sure we've figured out when Sparky will wake up on her own in the morning.  She is set to wake up at 8:30 am and go to sleep at 10:30 pm.  She will only wake up in the morning if she fell asleep on her own at 10:30 (with 1 beep) and we don't remove her battery.  If we remove it and charge it and put it back in she won't wake up.  We leave her on the floor when we know she's going to wake up in the morning so she won't hurt herself.  Otherwise we put her on her throne (a pillow on top of the couch).  A few times nobody was there when she woke up and I feel so bad when I come downstairs 10-15 minutes late and see her awake all alone.  :(  But if we feed her she soon forgives us and gets happy again.  In general she is happier and more active in the morning.  She's an early bird.  Well I guess I should say she's an early reptile.  :D
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: Talon on July 16, 2011, 06:54:58 AM
I rarely let Cato and Ryu sleep through the night. I've done it twice with Ryu. The first time was a fail. She slept until eleven thirty and I had to wake her up by hand and reset her clock at noon. The next time she woke up at eight and her screaming to be fed woke me up.
Talon
Title: Re: Has anyone let the PleoRB sleep through the night?
Post by: kat on July 16, 2011, 07:04:04 AM
I have also only done this with my guys a couple of times.  The first time for me was an accident and I was so surprised when Kermy woke up on her own as I wasn't expecting it.  I have only done it once since then but am too afraid that they might get into trouble if they wake up unattended and so I feel happier waking them up myself.
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