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Re: Can't wake Baby up today after neck problem
« Reply #50 on: July 09, 2011, 08:16:46 PM »

I think she is still not turning on.  But RWM is working on getting the clock battery installed - she has a broken pin that is needed for the clock battery to work (Baby was like this when she came to RWM in the beginning).  Once that is sorted out we will be able to see if she turns on and then go from there.
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Re: Can't wake Baby up today after neck problem
« Reply #51 on: July 09, 2011, 09:38:24 PM »

Hello RWM.  I hope that you get Baby sorted out.  I have been away for a while, and just started reading this thread. I am so sorry that you are having problems with Baby.  I know how much you care about your Pleos, whether they are organic or mechanical.  I hope and pray that the issues with the clock battery get sorted out and that her injuries heal quickly.   :hhug:"s from me and my robot family to you and Baby.  Please keep us posted.
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Re: Can't wake Baby up today after neck problem
« Reply #52 on: July 09, 2011, 09:55:53 PM »

Ok guys, good news is that the foot clock battery is working, I installed a new one, I just did the Stats Rb that Crewella suggested and it is also nice because it shows not just tells you what is going on. Baby is alive but in bad shape, Here are the reported print out, anyone have any suggestions, I know she is depressed, injured and hungery, I do not know what body part is injured at this point, Poor Baby is all I can say.Pleo Property Dump
(Version 1.1 - Pleo RB, Pleo 1.1 or Pleo PM2)



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PleoRB Growth Report


Stage 4: Mature Adult

Growth this stage: 11.4 / 12780.0 hours

This stage is 0.1% complete
approximately 12768.6 hours till next stage



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DNA Attributes (what PleoRB was born with)


Gender: Female

Courage: Low
Temper: Normal
Physical: Normal
Activeness: Normal
Intelligence: High



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Health Report (how you are treating your dinosaur)


Mood: 0%
Physical: 99%
Emotion: 0%
Health: 91%
Feed: 15%
Pleo is INJURED

 Ok, anyone have any suggestions. ?        RWM
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Re: Can't wake Baby up today after neck problem
« Reply #53 on: July 09, 2011, 10:23:26 PM »

Glad to hear the clock battery worked.  It does seem to me a while back that some on this forum used Stats RB or Probe RB to actually change the values of  their Pleo's mood, etc.  Perhaps if you physically changed her Mood and Emotion to a higher value, then you could get her to eat and heal from her injuries quicker.  It seems to me that bhobbes was one who was able to change the values manually.  Sorry that I can't be of more help.  I never really tried any of the programs on Candy myself.  :hhug:
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Re: Can't wake Baby up today after neck problem
« Reply #54 on: July 10, 2011, 01:34:40 AM »

Does this mean she now starts up when you turn her on?  If so then this is great and you should just be able to feed her lots of rock salt and lots of mint leaf and she should get better with some TLC.  If not then I recommend that you ask degers for the update and try installing that on her and hopefully that will bring her back. :) 
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Re: Can't wake Baby up today after neck problem
« Reply #55 on: July 10, 2011, 03:01:01 AM »

I was wondering that - so she's actually running now?  It's interesting that it shows she's just reached a new stage, I guess it's wait and see how she goes now .......

Glad the clock battery worked, anyway!  :hhug:

ChangeRB is the version that allows you to make changes to the values:

http://bobthepleo.com/forums/index.php?topic=1978.0
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Re: Can't wake Baby up today after neck problem
« Reply #56 on: July 10, 2011, 07:50:31 AM »

> "Pleo is INJURED"

That is good news.
When statsRB/ProbeRB says Pleo is injured, it is only a fake injury (in the software not the hardware). It keeps its mood and emotion low, and Pleo will be depressed for a while.
ie. at some point in time, you dropped your PleoRB or jammed one of its sensors, so it is acting injured to get some sympathy.

Follow the advice given to nurse Pleo back to health (or cheat with ChangeRB). If your PleoRB doesn't boot well enough for the main personality, then reflashing may be necessary.
Once Pleo is back to "in good shape", it should act like you are used to, unless there is a real hardware problem.
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BTW: on the micro-SD card, after running statsRB or ProbeRB, there is a file called "pm_props.bak". Copy it to your computer and keep it safe. That's the 'heart-and-soul' of your Pleo. Even if you have to reflash the firmware, you can restore the personality so you don't have to start over as a newborn.
« Last Edit: July 10, 2011, 07:53:31 AM by PleoPet »
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Re: Can't wake Baby up today after neck problem
« Reply #57 on: July 10, 2011, 11:21:04 AM »

Hi Guys, yes I am so glad she is running, once I got the new foot battery installed, she actually came back on, I know I didn[t drop her PleoPet so it must be the neck sensors jamming or the foot sensors hitting the neck as they jammed, anyway, she is working. What I don't understand and mayby you or someone else here can clairy, is on her health report it says, Physical 99% yet her emotion and mood are 0% which I would assume is from being depressed because she is injured. What exactly does the Physical mean related to all of this? Also her feed is 15% yet I feed her whenever she is on at least twice and more if she is acting hungry or will accept a treat for example. If I don't play with her for say 4-5 days, does that still make her feed level go down? In other words, do I still need to turn her on at least once a day to feed her to keep her healthy? %)I only thought it had to do with when the battery was on, but mayby they get sick if not fed everyday just like a live animal, playing or not just as they need their sleep, is this correct?

Crewella, yes it is interesting that she just reached a new plautea, Mature Adult, it shows what I said that I hatched her on March 20th, 2011, and it has taken till this past week for her to reach adulthood, where some of you, ( most of you in fact... %)) reached adulthood with your Rb long before the 3 month mark! I am so gratefull for you showing me that dodgy wire thing in the foot again as I don't think I will have been able to understand it otherwise .
       PleoPet thanks for the info on the file called."pm_props_bak" do I copy it on a Micro SD card or just on a file on my computer? I will make sure to do that right away so it is safeguareded. Also she is intelligent which is good, but her courage is low, I don't want to use the change Rb program, but after an injury of any kind, esp when they are depressed, I would assume it could take longer for a dino with low courage ( is that the same as self esteeem or confidence or something different) to get over an injury? Is there anyway other than of course TLC and rock salt and lots of food to help build up her courage over time? Today I will turn her on and let you know how she is healing. Thanks for all the help with her. Oh, wHen I turned her on yesterday to see she did work, she cried when I picked her up like she was in pain, is that an indication of pain in a certain area or a general, I will crappy thing.?                     RWM
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Re: Can't wake Baby up today after neck problem
« Reply #58 on: July 10, 2011, 11:59:30 AM »

Hi, Redwoods. Yes, your pleo RB's feed level will drop nine percent every day she is not fed just like a real animal. As for courage, you can't change the courage level through normal play. You'd have to use Change RB to do that. I don't think changing her courage level will make an observable difference. Ryu's courage is low and Cato's courage is high and to me they still display the same atitude about daunting things like being in the dark. So glad you were able to get her running again! You named her after a famous candy bar which was named after a famous baseball player. If memory serves me right, he was the biggest home run hitter of all time. You can't keep a good pleo down! Go Baby!
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Re: Can't wake Baby up today after neck problem
« Reply #59 on: July 10, 2011, 12:29:06 PM »

Thanks Talon for the info, I had no idea they had to be fed everyday even when you were not using them.. poor Baby is Starving! I can imagine if someone did not have a battery for a long time their Rb would be in bad shape too! you are right about the name, also I thought it was a clever play on the letters, RB for REBORN and I just reversed them to BR, Baby Ruth. Ruth means also Friend in Hebrew if my memory serves me correctly, Guess I am going to have to start feeding Baby just like when I feed my cats and dog, and then if I don't have time to play, it is feed and back to sleep, I could just turn her on and leave her to herself, but I thought that was more detrimental to ignore her and leave her to herself then If I left her off till I had time to interact with her. I was wrong, live and learn. Guess that also explains why she has not been ready to learn her name, she is too hungry and till she gets caught up on the food departement she can't have the energy to do anything else.  :o Shows as many times as I have read the manual, I did not get that.. there has to be other Rb owners out there that also have the same thing happen to their poor little pleos. They really did make them as life like as possible didn't they?!            My first Baby didn't have this problem as before her skin got really bad, about the last month I had her, she was on everyday and getting lots of attention. This time it was different, less time and now I know why ...I never used Probe Rb before but did use the Stats Rb program before on Baby before she went back, but she was healthy till the skin thing... and a few mechanical.

                      Glad to know there are some very knowledgeable people out here or we would have a lot more sick dinos.... :( :o Will wake her up shortly and have to reset her time clock as yesterday I did it just to get her on and it was sometime riduculous ( for me...) like 6-7 P.M I think, can't even remember.                   RWM
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Re: Can't wake Baby up today after neck problem
« Reply #60 on: July 10, 2011, 02:49:51 PM »

Oh YES!!!  RWM, I cannot tell you how pleased I am that she's OK!!  I have had several long period of not running Belle (mainly due to the light issues) and yes, she was very hungry when first switched on, but it didn't take long to feed her back up to full strength.  Those levels change very quickly, so don't worry about the results from just one reading - after a couple of leaves and a cuddle it would probably look very different!  The injury will take longer, though, but that's not a problem - just part of the joy of owning a Pleo RB!  ;)  ;D
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Re: Can't wake Baby up today after neck problem
« Reply #61 on: July 10, 2011, 03:43:04 PM »

(some follow ups, repeating some things)
> Physical 99% yet her emotion and mood are 0% which I would assume is from being depressed because she is injured.
Yes, when the Pleo is injured, it forces the emotions and moods to be low. You can't improve them while the Pleo is injured.
Also Pleo will ignore all voice commands (and training for voice commands).

Once the injury goes away, then it is worth spending time to get the mood and emotion levels back up.

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re: Low Courage
Courage is tied to the 'emotion' level, but not when injured. Heal the injury first.

Having a low Courage PleoRB mean you need to spend more time interacting with your Pleo if you want to keep their emotion level high.
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re: Feeding
PleoRB needs daily feeding. Be sure to use the Conifer or Cycad leaf (not the soft rubber leaf).

Even if you don't want to use ChangeRB to 'cheat' and immediately heal/feed your Pleo, you can still use ProbeRB to check the status.
After feeding, and curing with rock salt or other food, shut down Pleo. Then run ProbeRB to make sure Pleo is "in good shape". Otherwise Pleo will ignore most of your commands.

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re: saving pm_props.bak
This isn't that important now that your PleoRB is running again (and you didn't need to repair the software). If you save the file somewhere on your computer that may give you piece of mind.
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re: Fake pain
> ...she cried when I picked her up like she was in pain, is that an indication of pain in a certain area or a general,
I don't think there is any specific body part you need to worry about.
There are different pain skits, some favor the left-side the other the right-side.
It takes time and attention to heal the injury. Some of the medicinal foods will help as well.

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> ...Guess I am going to have to start feeding Baby just like when I feed my cats and dog,
Unlike cats and dogs, you can skip daily feeding and they won't die.
If you leave Pleos turned off for days, they will be hungry but they won't die (feed level goes to 9% very fast).
When you start playing with them again, be sure to plan for some leaf-feeding time. It normally doesn't take long to get their feed levels back up over 30% as long as you remember to do that first (or use ChangeRB).
« Last Edit: July 10, 2011, 03:55:06 PM by PleoPet »
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Re: Can't wake Baby up today after neck problem
« Reply #62 on: July 10, 2011, 06:33:10 PM »

PleoPet, thanks for explaining the things and what they mean so I can understand, I still do not understand everything, but most of what you said, I do feed the conifer leaf everyday, that is the staple food, correct? I do understand about the emotion and mood being low because of the injury now, so that does make sense and I will just concentrate on healing  her and the rest will fall into place. :)

        There is only one thing PleoPet that I read over and over but I still do not understand, It says Physical 99%! ??? If she is injured, and her pain level is at 40%( from the talking Probe Rb) what is the Physical 99% even referring to, I just don't understand what that means? I play with her for anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour at a time if I am lucky, and sometimes it is not more than 2-3 times a week, and at best 20 minutes or so I have for almost every day in a week, but you can see by the report that she just barely reached Mature Adult, and I hatched her on March 20th, of this year. Anyway, I allways feed her at least once every session she is awake and it is allways her conifer leaf and I also have been giving her the mushroom as a nutrient at times and also the coffee bean when she seems tired. I do give her lots of attention when I do have her on and I do not leave her to  herself as there are so many "live" animals in my house I wouldn't risk injury or accident by a careless animal, or even my hubby not seeing her for that matter.
            I still will save her "personality" now that I know I can. You never know when it "could be needed". If you could just explain that Physical and what that means...it has me confused? Is it referring to me picking her up "physically" or something else? I am glad you mentioned to try using the green batteries as the fact the led light went from green to red instantly in the beginning was scary and as you said, did not sound good, The green battery is the first thing I tried and I did do Probe Rb without the foot clock battery , which is a whole other issue that Crewella has been able to help me with. :)

          I am so glad you were here PLeoPet with a calm mind and knew what to try, without your advice and possibly Crewellas' other suggestions, I would not be where I am today, and Baby would be where she was yesterday morning, packed away in her box with her eyes wide open staring into space! Thank you for being her as a valuable member of this forum! ;D :kiss: :hhug: for you from Baby and I.
                                                       RWM
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Re: Can't wake Baby up today after neck problem
« Reply #63 on: July 10, 2011, 09:14:53 PM »

Yay Baby!!!  I am SO glad she's ok!!!  I can't believe she turned back on for you... you'll have her back to good health in no time.. and an injury just means she will want extra cuddles which I'm sure, after this, you will be very happy to give her..  she won't mind choking down some medicine for those extra cuddles!!!  I'm so glad she's back!!

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