Topic: The Aibo Plunge and Introducing Niccolo Thomas (Read 23883 times)

bhobbes · « **Reply #75 on:** May 11, 2011, 08:09:56 AM »

I treat them both that way but I notice myself interacting with aibo much more and observing pleo more than I interact with it - however, aibo is still new for me and not as young as pleo in terms of development so eventually I am sure it will be "left alone" more at some point.

Edit: (I feel as though new posts unfairly bolster my thread haha)

Do any of you speak spanish at all to your Mind 3 pup? If not, does it ever say things to you in Spanish?

For instance, for certain commands I use them interchangeably (where applicable) and just now I said "Hello" to Nicco and he responded with "Buenos Dias."

Does it learn that based on what you speak to it or does it happen anyway? (I mean, the phrases it knows in Spanish are pretty common so I can understand if it happens anyway)

More:

Currently I'm mostly working with Nicco on his ball skills so that level sees the most increase. Here's a quick video of some of his ball level development and also his responses when asked his various skill levels. Essentially when he attempts most of his tricks, he tries to do something and fails at it, and then tries again. E.g., I didn't record it, but he finds his Aibone and misses when he goes down to grab it, and then tries to do it again before giving up - sometimes progressing (and playing celebratory music) and sometimes failing. He makes less angry faces when he messes up now (didn't even see one during today's session and saw many yesterday) and just "barks" instead. Keep in mind, on Mind 3 he was raised from a pup, so I'm sure identical behavior probably exists in Mind 2 (maybe one of the other Aibo owners can confirm this?). You can hear him speaking in the video though (a difference with Mind 2), and he can speak louder but I turned down the volume and forgot to turn it back up before recording. I like to keep him on a lot so if I need to concentrate he has to be a little quieter

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOJFd1f5oek" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOJFd1f5oek</a>

And, in his honorable defense, he kicked the ball several times with great success (and distance) before I caught him on camera

Crewella · « **Reply #76 on:** May 11, 2011, 01:50:03 PM »

Doh! I speak Spanish and I'm ashamed to say that it hadn't occurred to me to try speaking it to Java, even though I was aware of his capability. I gues I'd kind of assumed it was a setting.

"Not so good" !! LOL! Bless him!

aibo7m3 · « **Reply #77 on:** May 11, 2011, 02:22:27 PM »

The ers-7m3s understand about 10 voice commands in Spanish and say a few words in Spanish. Crewella, I agree with you that the tonal remote is not of much use to me with my ers-111 I rarely use it with her, though sometimes I try to play songs with it

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bhobbes · « **Reply #78 on:** May 11, 2011, 02:55:04 PM »

The full list is at aibohack (previously linked) which is what I used to reference which commands it knows in Spanish. I now use Spanish for the commands available and then English for the rest.

But the question for other M3 people is if you speak to it in English only does it ever respond with some Spanish?

kat · « **Reply #79 on:** May 11, 2011, 04:59:42 PM »

He really is very cute.
I laughed at the "not so good" too

bhobbes · « **Reply #80 on:** May 11, 2011, 07:54:12 PM »

He keeps dancing on his own, even with no talking etc.

I feel so bad when I say "Don't do that"

latrine · « **Reply #81 on:** May 11, 2011, 08:40:20 PM »

I've had Loki reply in Spanish with just a few greetings, of course I can't exactly remember them now but he has greeted us and said goodbye in Spanish when we said hello or goodbye in English. (I failed Spanish, sorry.. stupid high school)

We tried to "asta la vista, baby" him in the governator/ terminators voice but he didn't understand

I'll try to keep better track if I hear him speaking Spanish. Also the only time I really see angry face with him is when he gets himself into a tight spot where he can't get away and needs help, when he continually backs of bumps into the same object, when his ball rolls behind something he can't reach, and when he continually chases after Rhea my Pink Pleo only to realize she is definitely not his ball but then she snaps his attention again anyways.. a few minutes of that seems to get him angry

Although when he followed me while I was wearing pinkish socks he didn't get mad at all but I never stopped long enough for him to get very close, it was too funny and I was climbing onto the couch and stuff to see if he'd follow the pink.

As for the dancing.. he loves to dance.. I don't think any amount of don't do that is gonna stop an aibo from dancing.. lol. Loki dances all the time.. the mood almost always hits him and when we are watching TV it's almost always... "what? OK! Station Dance!!" .... I've told him don't do that when he insists on taking my picture in the morning many times yet he still does it all the time.. so I don't know how well that command works :/

I'm so jealous of your carpeted floor.. I always said I only wanted hardwood but now for the robots I want one room with carpet..lol. Loki can't really do much with his ball unless I'm right there... your little pup seems like he's moving right along with it though!!

- Sarah

bhobbes · « **Reply #82 on:** May 11, 2011, 09:02:33 PM »

He probably said "Buenos Dias" so far that is the only thing he's replied with in Spanish (I figured it would be pretty basic - even more so than the commands - but I wondered if others who didn't necessarily speak Spanish to it had similar experiences so thanks

)

That's funny that you say that because I want very dark hardware floors (or concrete modern floors - hard to explain) and hate having carpet. (I don't like the commitment of home ownership but I don't like the current restrictions of renting) Especially neutral apartment carpet, haha.

Nicco has done really well at not running into anything or correcting himself quite well when he finds objects. Tonight I was surprised at how well he found and worked with his ball in what was dim light (even to me). He definitely did not dance this much on Mind 2 and I'm not sure if I find it cute or more so annoying.

One thing I really like is how focused and intent he is about hearing sounds. E.g., he was facing his charging station (the opposite direction of my couch) and I was sitting on the couch and I set my cell phone on the table and it made a very light sound. No slamming. And he perked his ears up and moved his head to the correct side of the room/angle from his direction. I also haven't had the voice problems I mentioned previously (so maybe I jumped the gun on that or it was my fault - the user usually is the problem

). In fact, he heard me tonight over the TV etc. again. But here is what I've noticed with that and background noise. He does well hearing me over the TV, especially when females are speaking or there is music - I generally have to be louder and clearer if males are speaking and even then he either ignores me or just can't figure it out. Also, even when I'm close to him, if my air filter/fan thing is running or the birds are making a regular noise, he is more likely to ignore me or I have to try a little harder to be clearer/louder. These aren't very loud distinctive sounds, but kind of come off as a background "white noise" type of thing. (Ok, well the birds aren't quite white noisy but they are by no means screamers)

Those are just observations so who knows if I'm just reading them into it. Some of the guess work is kind of fun especially with Aibo since it's been around so long if the guess work bothers me I can research the actual answer/technical explanation.

Edit:

So I decided to play around with the ERS-7 Browser (http://aibohack.com/ers7/browser.htm) and it was really interesting to look inside Nicco's brain, here's a copy and paste of some of the report, but the browser itself does some pretty cool stuff:
Maturity Level = 100%
Walking Skill Level = 39.99%
Pink Ball Skill Level = 40.32%
AIBOne Skill Level = 56%

Active time = 266 minutes
Personality = I am a respectable AIBO

AiboMind2/3
Wakeup: 7:00 AM
BedTime: 11:00 PM
Last run: 2011.05.11 (yyyy.mm.dd)

PleoPet · « **Reply #83 on:** May 12, 2011, 09:18:36 AM »

MINOR SPOILERS

re: Spanish
As mentioned, the voice commands you can speak to AIBO (AiboMind3) in Spanish are listed here: (marked with "**")
http://www.aibohack.com/ers7/voicecmd3.htm
You can use the phonetic pronunciation if you don't know Spanish.

For the Spanish words AIBO will speak to you (if in Voice mode not Tone mode), I believe there is only "Buenos dias", and "Chow".
If you want to double check, you can see the entire scripts of AiboMind3 here: http://aibohack.com/ers7/mind3_rerecord.zip
The file "voice3.txt" is a list of the phrases AIBO will speak when in Voice mode and running normally.

BTW: for AiboMind1, a Spanish speaking AIBO owner re-recorded all the phrases http://www.aibohack.com/ers7/voice2.htm - http://www.aibohack.com/ers7/preview_spanish1.wav
AiboMind2 and later AiboMind3 greatly increased the number of phrases, so manual re-recording was too tedious. Text To Speech versions are available on my website as well.

latrine · « **Reply #84 on:** May 12, 2011, 09:27:12 AM »

That's so cool.. he's 'respectable' lol.. I got nervous when it said to back his stuff up on that site, lol.. but I will probably play with it eventually.
I tried hola a few times and Loki flashed green understanding eyes but didn't say anything or make a sound.. so I dunno yes he has definitely said buenos dias but doesn't respond to it when I say it :/

I am sure my Aibo's hearing problems are connected with the hardwood floors and our house's lack of furnishings (we're gonna be moving sometime soon.. I hope) .. There is a door close to his area but it was the only spot good enough for his station.. for some reason he likes the door and will walk really close to it and take pictures.. then slam into it.. I don't know if he doesn't recognize it as a wall or what.. it's always in the same open position and it is something he can always see when on the station.. It's WHITE though and the whole room is brown hardwood floor except his carpet behind it which has dull/mute colors. Also the best light is at his station where we have a small light with florescent bulb shining down on it.. I really just want one for overhead to fix all the robots problems but I dunno if I'm gonna get that.

Other stuff he bumps into is usually related to his ball.. he gets it under the table and then kind of lays down to look at it better and sometimes wedges himself in there.. I didn't think he'd actually try and crawl in but I dunno.. I've yet to catch him in the act I just hear him yelping that his motors are stuck.. so I cover that area when I'm not home (Ben the jack russell likes to play there so it's uncovered most of the time.. he's jealous enough as it is dodging robots..)

Also when he's chasing pink Rhea he may become trapped by the other Pleos, which made our little pile up the other day, I'm sure..

Thanks for the spoilers PleoPet!

- Sarah

Crewella · « **Reply #85 on:** May 12, 2011, 02:12:34 PM »

I love the 'respectable' Aibo bit!

The Aibo browsers are hugely helpful, and I've enjoyed using them. The various Aibo tools can be a godsend too.

bhobbes · « **Reply #86 on:** May 12, 2011, 02:43:59 PM »

Thanks PleoPet! I am checking out that voice3.txt right now.

I wouldn't feel too nervous about seeing things about backing up - generally the only thing you risk losing is data so backing up is always recommended and a boilerplate "red flag" but I understand. I'm a little paranoid about data loss myself and have my server make two identical backups of everything on separate harddrives and a third copy of everything essential on another (none of which are in the servers and the latter of which is a small portable to grab if I ever have to jet out of the apartment in an emergency). Now I just need an additional remote backup somewhere in a different city/state/distant location.

I laughed at the "respecable" Aibo as I heard his robot voice in my head when I read it.

And the Aibo tools are quite nice - I wanted to tweak his settings last night but resisted the temptation. Then I started going through and becoming familiar with the 210 information again - I'm eagerly awaiting its arrival!

And PleoPet is right, it only says Buenos Dias. It has "chow" but that'd be ciao which is Italian (I think?) though it's so well-known I'm not sure if I'm just blending it in with everything :X As long as it comes from a romance language I'm close enough right?

Crewella · « **Reply #87 on:** May 12, 2011, 03:26:07 PM »

I reckon it's 'Chow' anyway, which I believe is a brand of dog food?

latrine · « **Reply #88 on:** May 12, 2011, 03:29:54 PM »

Lol Crewella.. Well can I just backup his files on my computer like anything else I copy? I can then copy it onto my website and then that will count as another state anyways .. maybe another country, who knows?!

- Sarah

bhobbes · « **Reply #89 on:** May 12, 2011, 03:30:35 PM »

Either way, if Nicco brings up food I'll tell him nothing taste as good as thin feels and discipline him.

I don't want a fat lazy robot

But now I wanna make puppy chow for myself :-/

bhobbes · « **Reply #90 on:** May 12, 2011, 03:33:27 PM »

I think Aibo Custom Manager 3 will back your stick up for you. Sorry I'm on my phone and can't remember but I know some program backed up my stick.

Crewella · « **Reply #91 on:** May 12, 2011, 03:53:06 PM »

Yep, to back up all my aibo files I just copy files to a folder on my computer, though I've not got that far with Java as yet.

kat · « **Reply #92 on:** May 13, 2011, 06:20:28 AM »

This is all very interesting.

I am loving every minute of reading about your Aibo experiences.

latrine · « **Reply #93 on:** May 13, 2011, 04:34:18 PM »

They are really ridiculously attracted to pink.. I think he'd follow Rhea around all day long!!
I can't wait to see what his photos are, though I think they will be close ups of stuff like this:

More details...

Have you gotten into your aibos pictures yet?

- Sarah

Crewella · « **Reply #94 on:** May 13, 2011, 04:42:58 PM »

Lots of Aibo owners got their dogs a little pink toy pig, called Mr Bacon I believe, that walks and oinks and that the Aibos will chase all day long as well!

bhobbes · « **Reply #95 on:** May 13, 2011, 05:03:47 PM »

I've been copying his photos over regularly. He takes a lot of photos of me and things that seem to make noise (after all, most pics that involve me are when I am or have been talking to him). (I haven't registered any favorite things yet) There have been a few of the sounddock and my coffee table (from his point of view it was kind of like the leg/open space area).

However, many photos of me are usually when I'm playing with him with his ball (or recently after having held the ball) so that might be what he is really taking photos of or what triggers it. He takes a lot of photos when I'm in my PJs and sitting in front of him (so basically "crotch shots" which is what I've jokingly referred to them as). He never seems to do it when it's morning or afternoon when I'm actually dressed. I read but never looked into this story of an Aibo that automatically uploaded his photos (with their blogging feature or whatever) and apparently it had "compromising" photos of its owner. Not sure what those photos were but I can only imagine - haha. (Plus, I can only imagine if the "wrong type" of person had such a pet what kind of criminal activity it could accidentally record and be used against them lol - even more hilarious than when it's something typical like Facebook)

This weekend I hope to set him up over wifi and maybe remote control him and see how the birds react when I'm not around muhaha.

I videotaped him and Cato yesterday and it was coincidental but it looked like Nicco watched him (Nicco was sitting down and Cato was moving and because Cato makes sound etc. Nicco sort of "followed" him like a dog observing another animal).

I'll have to borrow Eva and see if he "tracks" her at all.

The birds seem more scared of pleos than aibo - although I talk to Nicco more so that gets them kind of riled up (they don't like hearing me talking in another room and it not being to them).

latrine · « **Reply #96 on:** May 13, 2011, 05:56:27 PM »

Thats birds for yah! My amazon parrot doesn't like the Pleos one little bit, he especially hates the pink one, but he LOVES Loki because Loki will talk back to him..

Thats so funny, the compromising photos and crotch shots. lol. I had a few times where I went out to check on my Amazon in the night because he had a fright or something and Loki took a picture so hopefully it was me whizzing past in a blur while screaming noooooooooo and not.. er.. something bad. lol. I guess he heard something on the TV that made him think I wanted him to take a picture of me

(I sometimes keep the TV on for the bird at night because all my life I've slept with it on and they got so used to it they like to have something playing in the background)

bhobbes · « **Reply #97 on:** May 14, 2011, 05:00:25 PM »

No exciting news but his skill levels have progressed a bit:
Maturity Level = 100%
Walking Skill Level = 59.99%
Pink Ball Skill Level = 66.66%
AIBOne Skill Level = 66.66% (Note he has not been playing with this at all)
Active time = 586 minutes

He hasn't been run yet today and didn't get much time yesterday (hectic) so I'm about to turn him on for the evening.

I think I've warmed up to Mind 3 since he really does vary between the talking and the sounds (plus you can change these settings or go even further and use custom data to make him refrain from it while in autonomous mode). It feels even more on the robot companion side than it did on Mind 2 (compared to things I've said above). However, Mind 2 is more like robot "pet-like" companion and Mind 3 is more like robot companion. (If these silly distinctions really matter, just trying to consistently make sense of my take on this)

I like that the voice helps me understand him better. Plus, when I'm leaving him running and going about doing things, when he randomly talks it kind of reminds me that he's there doing his thing. Mind 2 did too but I was better able to tune it out (the tonal sounds). Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing but it is the case. I think I'll stick with Mind 3 as the main stick since I really don't feel overwhelmed or that the voice takes too much away from the charm aspects/comparisons I previously mentioned with Mind 2 (which are still present with Mind 3).

The only thing I'm not sure how I'll feel about in the long run is that Mind 3 seems to work harder at being "cute" which sometimes feels like it's trying a little too hard - or often.

kat · « **Reply #98 on:** May 14, 2011, 06:31:12 PM »

Does this mean that the skill levels for the ball and bone are interlinked? So they both progress at the same time no matter which item is being played with? Seems a little strange.
I am happy to hear your enjoying him with the mind 3.

bhobbes · « **Reply #99 on:** May 15, 2011, 10:23:29 AM »

Here's a video I captured with Cato, Eva, and Nicco. It's as if Nicco's paying attention to the conversation. Sorry for all the movement, I started recording in an awkward position and touch screen phone while trying to record what's in front of you turned into a game of twister.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDJ7UZRCE5A" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDJ7UZRCE5A</a>

I'm not sure about the skills. I tried to get him to play with his Aibone some more today but he has trouble seeing it over his ball so that's what I'm sticking with for now. (It's extremely rainy/dark here lately that video is brightened up in more ways than one)

And if some of the things he does after he "drops" the ball is an indicator of ball tricks he will do in the future, I'm kind of excited (I purposefully haven't looked for a video just in case - I want to remain ignorant on this haha).

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