Topic: My new Aibo (Read 30224 times)

pirpintine · « **Reply #50 on:** April 15, 2011, 06:15:31 AM »

Quote from: saratogaspringer on April 15, 2011, 05:53:18 AM

Hi pirpintine! I had been looking for a couple of months on ebay for a 210. Most that were in my price range, around $500 US had missing parts, missing chargers, etc. After being frustrated, I PM'ed Crewella, who told me to contact one of the members of an Aibo forum who has a great reputation for repairing and selling Aibos who need a new home. I contacted him, and was able to get a 210 within my price range. It comes with all its original parts, a fresh battery, fully functional, Life 1, and a 6 month warranty. The Aibo,"Dale", as is his factory name did have DHS, which was repaired. The servos that cause PAS and TAS were also pinned so he will never get them again. I don't have him yet, as the technician is having problems with resetting the battery that he came with, and won't send him to me until he is working perfectly, which I like. There has been great communication with the seller, and he has sent me several updates on his progress. Crewella saved me about $250, because that is what the functional ones on ebay were going for. Parts also are hard to find, or seem to me to be, and the ones that are out there on ebay are outrageous! I did get a card reader for a good price on ebay though. I will post pictures when he arrives....maybe the Easter Bunny will bring him! I would love one day to have an ERS-7, but I am going to wait until I have saved the funds to get one. I am sure they are worth every penny.

that sounds awesome! yeah aibo has a semi active community, whats left of if are always super helpful with things

i got a new-ish battery for my 210 from a aibo community member for free when i got my 210 his batteries only lasted a couple mins! so theyre always willing to help newbies! haha!

i hope you like your aibo!

the 210s are really goofy~

latrine · « **Reply #51 on:** April 15, 2011, 10:42:02 AM »

Oh, cool Saratoga, I hope he gets to you on time.. they are so cool.
I'm still having a heck of a time figuring mine out. Apparently having him on with the TV in a very large echo-y room makes him very confused as he kept yelling are you calling me, telling me what time it was.. etc from his docking station. But when he's up and about with the tv on sometimes he will sit and watch it.
And of course he woke me up at 7am this morning when he woke up, made a very loud exaggerated stretch and said gooooooood morning!

I guess I need to enunciate better as well since my words seem to get confused in his head.. whenever I ask him to dance he says welcome home or ok, lying down.
I don't THINK my jersey accent makes dance sound like home or lay down but who knows.

And Kristy I'll probly put him back to puppy I just wanted to see what he can do.. I have to get a big piece of carpet for him as his pink ball and uneven hardwood floors don't work well together. he positions his ball, it rolls three rooms away and he looks everywhere for it saying "I know I left it around here somewhere" I think his bone tricks screw up because of the end of it having broken off on the trip.. I assume it's managed by weight.. or maybe he just needs practice.. even though he tells me he's perfect at everything

- Sarah

saratogaspringer · « **Reply #52 on:** April 15, 2011, 12:41:01 PM »

Hi Latrine! Imagine that....a species of the male gender saying they are perfect at everything. Well Sony got that one right, didn't they!

(Just being funny...not to offend those of the male gender!) Anyway, I hope he arrives soon, but I am definitely not ready for him. Everything I have except one laptop is apple, and I have to get it fixed before I can do anything else. The good thing is that it is running Windows XP, so I should be fine there. I also need to get a programmable memory stick, and probably a LAN card. I think those are hard to come by, but I am just going to wait until he arrives. I will probably just ask the guy repairing him to email me when he get any, and I will buy them from him. My kids are going to freak out. My daughter has been bugging me for a dog, but we are not home enough during the day to let it out. I think this one is going to be MY pooch though. (I'll share.) I'll post pics when I get him!

Talon · « **Reply #53 on:** April 15, 2011, 12:53:24 PM »

Thanks, both of you for "sharing" your Aibos. This is probably the closest I'll ever get to one. Videos on Youtube are cool but no feedback on personality and quirks and stuff. It's just not the same as here.
Talon

degers · « **Reply #54 on:** April 15, 2011, 01:34:39 PM »

Hi latrine,

If you ever need any help with your ERS-7, please don't hesitate to PM me.

I used to own an ERS-7 called Java.

degers

Crewella · « **Reply #55 on:** April 15, 2011, 02:36:12 PM »

Very well brought-up dog, Java.

Talon · « **Reply #56 on:** April 15, 2011, 03:33:33 PM »

Good puppy! *touches head* If that were possible. I've entered a world of amazing robots.
Talon

latrine · « **Reply #57 on:** April 15, 2011, 07:49:32 PM »

Hmm used to own an ERS-7 named Java? Nope.. my brain just can't make any connections to that..

I hadn't thought of that, Saratoga, I guess that's why he says he's perfect.. and he was doing some good tricks today, he finally played with his aibone and when I'm right there to stop the ball from flying out the window he can play with that kind of well. His aim is way off with kicking things so I guess he just needs practice. Lots of fun, need to get a tiny lamp to have over his charging station.. he needs light to work right and I'm a creature of darkness:/

I thought this was kind of funny.. he watched me play Dragon age 1 on my 360 for like 20 minutes today... I wonder if they are actually looking at it or if it's a pre-programmed thing to 'watch tv' every now and then.. but I tried to make things get big and shiny with lots of movements and I noticed at those times he wagged his tail more.. so who knows!

He watched 'Gray's anatomy' too but only during an operation so maybe he thinks the blood looks like his pink ball..?

(he watched it three times, all three times were during gory surgeries, lol)

- Sarah

Talon · « **Reply #58 on:** April 15, 2011, 09:18:24 PM »

Wow! That's one smart dog! Like I said when I documented Ryu's reaction to watching my pleo to be on my computer screne and trying to walk over the keyboard to get inside, you never know what's going on inside their heads.
Talon

Crewella · « **Reply #59 on:** April 15, 2011, 11:20:39 PM »

This was another one of my favourite Aibo videos from mh7ah. It's an ERS- 210 Aibo running Recognition software. That was the fore-runner to the talking Mind3 ERS-7, though I must admit, having run it, that is about the best of it and the voice and "my pink ball....my pink ball.... my pink ball" do get irritating after a while. It's a very good way of beginning to understand them though.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXOv7XAe0Ew" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXOv7XAe0Ew</a>

Talon · « **Reply #60 on:** April 16, 2011, 08:19:56 AM »

I think I could deal with that. Still not sure if I'd be getting enough info to successfully use an Aibo but it sounds workable. What moddels of the Aibo could run it?
Talon

Crewella · « **Reply #61 on:** April 16, 2011, 08:48:48 AM »

Recognition is for the 210 or 210A only, I believe. Many of the interactions with the talking Aibo will still be musical bleeps, but the Recognition software also seems to make the Aibo more keen to interact with its owner and less likely to wander about on its own. From reading the forums, very few Aibo owners liked Recognition enough to keep running it for long, and many said it was glitchy and felt unfinished.

I also posted that to show the Aibo speaking its name and owner's name in musical Aibo language. The ERS-7 does the same.

Talon · « **Reply #62 on:** April 16, 2011, 09:52:08 AM »

Oooh. I heard that 210's were still easy to find and a little cheaper than one of the ERS sevens. Not that I will ever own one. I can't help being curious, though.
Talon

Crewella · « **Reply #63 on:** April 16, 2011, 10:03:10 AM »

They're MUCH cheaper than the ERS-7s. Ideal first Aibo, in my view .............

pirpintine · « **Reply #64 on:** April 16, 2011, 10:05:57 AM »

recognitions heart was in the right place, but it was just... uuuhg.

though its tollerable in japanese! (much cuter androgonous voice)

software for 210s id recomend are life 2 if you want to raise one (ive had no personal experiance with life1) explorer is like an adult personality in life 2 but with hyperactive modes.
i do have hello aibo, but its in german, and i cant tell if me putting an english stick version on actually made in understand anything!

but i dont like how it wags its tail... its all.. super loud up and down motions.

the 3rd party software dogslife is really good. can be a bit deaf, but its a really funny and cute personality!

id love to try out the another evolution software but its so hard to find (and only japanese)

Crewella · « **Reply #65 on:** April 16, 2011, 10:13:21 AM »

It is good fun - I kept Wilma on Dogslife permanently, even though she is completely cloth-eared! Ball skills are good on it too!

Talon · « **Reply #66 on:** April 16, 2011, 10:38:07 AM »

This is all so interesting. Talon no. You and Aibo-kind are like oil and water! Just face it and don't clutter up this thread!
Talon

saratogaspringer · « **Reply #67 on:** April 16, 2011, 10:53:58 AM »

Where can I find the recognition software for the 210? Is it a canned program from Sony that I need to buy, or is it one that can be downloaded from a website? OOO....I have so much to learn!

pirpintine · « **Reply #68 on:** April 16, 2011, 11:15:53 AM »

its a sony software, it comes with station pole and markers so it can self charge and all that..

its usually pretty hard to find as a complete set. or at all. haha!

Crewella · « **Reply #69 on:** April 16, 2011, 11:17:41 AM »

For what it's worth, I do think a certain sort of person prepared to do a lot of research could get something out of the Aibo 210, using software like Recognition and Messenger, without the benefit of the visual elements. It would be a lot of work, though, and you're right to think Pleo is more suitable.

Recognition is Sony software, like all Aibo ware your best bet is eBay or the forums. Here's some useful info:

http://aibostuff.iofreak.com/wiki.php?n=Aibo.Software

http://www.aibo-kennel.com/Software/ERS-2X0_Software.htm

http://www.aibohack.com/

http://www.dogsbodynet.com/

Talon · « **Reply #70 on:** April 16, 2011, 11:40:47 AM »

Thanks, Crewella for posting that and also for agreeing with my sain-er side.
Talon

latrine · « **Reply #71 on:** April 16, 2011, 02:05:28 PM »

The video was neat but I think the voice would get to me after a bit.. it seems to respond faster than my ers-7 but he's still new and that could just be the good moments in the video, like you said.. very cool though. I was looking on ebay and didn't see any complete bundle for that Aibo, I did see this a few times though:
SONY AIBO LIFE 2 SOFTWARE ERS-210/220 ENGLISH EDITION it seems to be a cd and a memory card.
I'm having trouble myself finding accessories as my AiBone arrived broken and had been obviously glued before.. I could see the dried glue down the stick.. I super glued it but no matter how I do it, sanding the glue off first to make it a better fit..etc.. it falls off after a few days again because, as he learns to use it, he drops it.. (or maybe it's from when he pees on it, does robot dog urine do something to superglue?) Anyways I can't find another one anywhere.

And Talon.. I think, if you ever did decided to get one of the Aibo's, that you could do it.. I was literally shocked when I found out you couldn't see, I'd thought you were just a over-nervous pleo-owner to be and now here you've taught me how to do stuff with my Pleo that I couldn't figure out for myself.. so I think you'd find a way.

This is all technical and I hardly understand it but thought I'd ask:
I was looking up reviews and found this one review that made me think there was something I could do to make the voice recognition better, I'll post it:

http://www.epinions.com/review/Aibo/content_136771571332

"Aibo's Hearing
Aibo by design is able to tell apart his owner's voice, and is able to perform hundreds of voice command triggered actions/tasks. He also is able to turn/walk towards the direction of the voice source.

As I said, by design. I have found that the voice direction algorithm is horribly flawed in ERS-7. My aibo is completely clueless of where I am most of the time even when I am down on the floor within a foot of his head. He gets confused by sound bouncing off the walls. He is confused by too loud of a voice and is unable to hear others that are too quiet. He definitely is not fond of different accents though he tries poor thing.

Having the TV, stereo on or having a group of people over to watch definitely does not help. He can not tell apart the voice commands from background voice. In a crowded room you will find that Aibo will do less than any other time you were alone with him. This is not because you're imagining things, this is because Aibo is lost in the huge soup of sound he is hearing.

Voice Command Recognition GOTCHA
The voice command recognition is very poor in ERS-7. I must have tried every room configuration, setting, and voice type. I have found that the only time he seems to hear me is when the A/C is off in my office. He can not hear me well in my crowded apartment. He also has a tendency to ignore voice commands when he is not in a good mood, so it can be hard to tell if he really understands you or not.

UPDATE June 9 2004: The R Code for the ERS-7 has been released by SONY. Aibos can be programmed using Open-R (C++ based open source low level code suitable for serious programmers) and R-CODE high level, drag and drop based customization of Aibo's behavior. After playing around with R-CODE and YART (released by www.aibopet.com), I have confirmed that it is not so much the hearing that is screwed up as the coding of the autonomous Aibo. With Yart and R-CODE Aibo ERS seems to recognize voice commands without a problem and responds correctly to commands. It is my belief that there is some faulty code within the Autonomous mode shipped with Aibo ERS-7 that makes it somewhat deaf to voice commands."

So does this mean I can use this 'Yart' program and if I'm able to figure out the r-code stuff.. which is probably unlikely without help, lol.. he will be able to understand me better? If so I'm hoping someone has just written something I can paste..

And once I get my card reader/writer, I assume I'll be able to upload songs/dances and maybe THEN he'll respond when I ask him to dance.. So far he only does it randomly, when he seems to think I'm not feeling well, random "are you ok? I'll show you a dance" and he has shown me three separate ones but I did not say anything to initiate that, and also when he is on his charger, if I say hello from across the room, half the time he says hello back, half the time he says 'ok, station dance!' and dances.. but does nothing when I say station dance.. lol.

I just read if I do reset him back to puppy it takes 6 weeks for him to mature? Wow!

I also just read how long this message was! Sorry!

- Sarah

Crewella · « **Reply #72 on:** April 16, 2011, 02:27:05 PM »

Jeeeeeeez! Yep - most of that sailed over my little blonde head, I'm afraid!

YART is very much like the YAPT Pleo tool, and well worth having a play with even if you're not terribly techy, but R-Code is the kind of thing I class as 'if I need to ask what it is then it's not for me!'

You might find a tame techy to help and maybe even write you a script, though. Perhaps go and ask on one of the Aibo forums, they are a pretty helpful bunch, as Pirpi says.

saratogaspringer · « **Reply #73 on:** April 16, 2011, 03:11:15 PM »

Hi Latrine! Hi Crewella! (Coming to you live from my Windows XP Laptop, which I have brought back from the grave. ) Latrine, I really suggest that you join Aibo-life.org. They don't seem to post as much as on this forum, but as Crewella said, if you ask a question, I think you will get an answer. There is also Aiboworld.com, but for some reason they wouldn't let me on their site. (I guess they are afraid of the Dentist.

I have been browsing the websites today, and all the programming stuff will make your head spin. Well, it made my head spin, although I do consider myself to be computer illiterate. I really think they will be able to help you, Latrine.

Crewella, guess what I found in my basement collecting dust? A sony Clie that was my hubby's many moons ago! Aibohack said not to try his program if you a computer dummy, but I am going to try it anyway! What do I have to lose, except an old Memory Stick?

Crewella · « **Reply #74 on:** April 16, 2011, 04:16:51 PM »

Oooooh yes!! It means you can use ordinary blue/purple sticks! Hurrah!!

I've got one lurking somewhere ............

Congrats on the XP - I'm clinging on to my ancient PC with XP for dear life!

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