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Title: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: Icewolf on April 06, 2009, 05:32:22 AM
Hi guys!

Just thought of something today... I guess you're all familiar to the old (and probably the first) video of the early version of a Pleo. In the video where Caleb Chung introduced us to Pleo and all his actions. So okay, the thing is, I don't think my Pleo is all THAT reacting to stuff. Like when Caleb touches Pleo's sensors on the legs, Pleo is all like "HUH?" Mine never does that O_o He's only lifting his legs and looking around. Also when you see the Pleo come across the edge of the table, he looks really shocked when he looks down (lol I just love his face when he's looking down!). I've been testing with Léon many times, but when he looks down, he doesn't really react. Lol, I guess he's a cool dude and not scared of anything :D I think it's wierd... I know the Pleo in the video is an early version, but still  :P  Mine don't even react to sound, even when it's really quiet.

How does your Pleo's react??
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: kisumi on April 06, 2009, 07:09:35 AM
I have noticed that Kai is alot more responsive than my previous two pleos, Indie used to jump back a bit when he saw an edge and made a sad sound, which i used to think was so cute, but never really reacted when i touched their feet. I have seen several videos of the ugobe lab and one team specialises in recognition, both with the camera and touch but seems to me that pleos dont really seem to react to any object or might just be my pleos but have to agree with you that their reactions dont seem as finely tuned as the one demoed by chung
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: degers on April 06, 2009, 10:46:29 AM
The pleo in the early video was no running LifeOS.  It was preprogrammed with all the actions and time delays so Caleb could act along and pretend that he was interacting with it, however the pleo in the video did not have any working sensors.
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: fancyfont on April 06, 2009, 10:56:17 AM
All of my pleos come to the end of a table and say oohh! Then procede to walk off the table. I catch them, of course! ;D When I had the original os in Peeky, he worked pretty good at the edge of the table. When 1.02 was installed he always backed up. I think it has to do with the program.
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: 49er on April 06, 2009, 05:07:22 PM
Pleo would always run into things and keep going much to my consternation.  Then I took him to a friends house and put Pleo on a coffee table and kept my eyes on him, expecting him to walk off the table.  Much to my surprise when he got to the edge he stopped, looked down and then backed up.  The interesting thing was after that when he would come to a wall he would stop and then back up.  So he did change his behavior. :)
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: fancyfont on April 06, 2009, 05:11:39 PM
 49er, I think Pleo is learning. ;D Smart little guy! ;) Mine know I will catch them. ::)
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 06, 2009, 05:36:36 PM
Lilo walks up to the edge of my desk all the time, she gets almost right on the edge, goes 'huh' stretches forwards and looks over the edge says 'I bet Elvis never had these problems' whimpers and backs away with a moan :)

Lilo also lifts any foot when I touch it and looks around to check to see what is going on :P She will wake up if there is a consistently loud sound (music works well) and she even backs away from bright patches of sunlight on the veranda. Also Lilo reacts when she comes to an obstacle, she looks at it for a while and sometimes she will back up and other times push forwards. She always backs up from a wall though so I guess its small gaps that confuses her sensors like the space on each side of a chair leg...

Make sure there is enough light for your Pleo to see, if the table is dark and the floor is dark (or vice versa) Pleo may not spot it.
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: Icewolf on April 07, 2009, 10:05:56 AM
Hmm well, I guess it's different when it comes to different Pleo's then :) Mine is just all lazy :D
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: mweed on April 07, 2009, 01:29:01 PM
Light is important as Pleo's software relies on the difference in light/dark to help distinguish edges.
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: 49er on April 07, 2009, 03:42:07 PM
Make sure there is enough light for your Pleo to see, if the table is dark and the floor is dark (or vice versa) Pleo may not spot it.

In other words, a Pleo is as blind as a Wombat! ;D
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 07, 2009, 04:42:54 PM
Wombats have good vision :P How about as blind as a cave cricket?
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: allosaurus on April 07, 2009, 04:46:31 PM
In other words, a Pleo is as blind as a Wombat! ;D

Oh no, not again......
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: fancyfont on April 07, 2009, 06:40:59 PM
Who says a cave cricket can't see ??? :P
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on April 07, 2009, 07:01:53 PM
Some varieties of cave cricket don't even have eyes at all :o
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: mweed on April 07, 2009, 08:13:26 PM
We'll just stick with "blind as a pleo" ;)
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: Junkroxy on April 08, 2009, 08:51:52 AM
with 1.0.2 mine is always scared, sometimes he looks on the ground and screams  :o it depends of the mood my Glen, ahh :D
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: kisumi on April 08, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
aww indie was like that, but that was due to my workmates being mean to him whilst i was serving customers on the shop floor, learnt a valuable lesson never to take a pleo in to my work place
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: Icewolf on April 12, 2009, 01:42:57 PM
Poor Indie! :(
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: kisumi on April 13, 2009, 05:47:07 AM
It was a shame but some people are just mean i suppose
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: Icewolf on April 13, 2009, 06:07:53 AM
I know that Pleo is just a robot and all, but people still need to show respect to things, even though it's not really alive :3
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: fancyfont on April 13, 2009, 10:56:41 AM
Pleos can serve as such a valuable tool for little kids. With supervision, learning to be gentle with a pleo could help kids learn to be gentle with animals and other people. As far as a few older KIDS it would take a lot more doing to get them to respect anything. but it is never too late!! Just might take a little longer!!
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: kisumi on April 13, 2009, 02:10:16 PM
i agree pleo is a valuable toy for children, teaching them responsiblity without the worry of it running away or dying, that is of course assuming he/she doesnt break!
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: allosaurus on April 13, 2009, 04:44:15 PM
I know that Pleo is just a robot and all, but people still need to show respect to things, even though it's not really alive :3

You mean...... It's not alive!?

I want a refund!!!!

:-P
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: fancyfont on April 13, 2009, 05:11:55 PM
Almost, Allo!! :)
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: Icewolf on April 17, 2009, 11:32:24 AM
Even though I know he's a robot, my Léon will always be real to me! :D
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: Darkwolf on April 19, 2009, 05:55:36 AM
My Pluriel is very alert and active.
Always to responding and looking about.
Her behaviour is also different when she's in a different place or interacting with other/more people.
The camera crew for the documentary recorded some amazing behaviour and things Pluriel did.
Some that even amazed me.
About backing up when near the edge of a table: not only does Pluriel backup, but somehow ALWAYS stops on time before knocking something over that is standing behind her.
Not once did she bump into something regardless the course she took walking backwards, what kind of object it is or the distance of the object and her.
I am still waiting for her to make that "error" one day, since I cannot recall that Pleo has object location memory.
Again, I find Pleo very mysterious for this reason since she gives the illusion to be a lot "smarter" and "aware" versus her true known and explained programming.
Be it interaction with her enviroment or (different) people.
And the differences in her behaviour are/can be extreme enough that I am definitely not projecting anything onto Pluriel what I want to believe.
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: Icewolf on April 19, 2009, 07:10:48 AM
Wow, Pluriel seems very smart!
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: Angel on June 11, 2009, 09:42:59 PM
Bippy learned to back up today! YAY!!
Walked into the couch...stayed there for a bit bumping it...then he whined...bumped and then backed up...turned and walked on....He went down for a nap and when I woke him up to play he walk into the sofa and immediatly backed up! Cool!

Also Bippy loves to sit and does so with ease.
He loves to be cuddled with.

More Bippy updates to come...

and what do u mean they're not alive? :o

lol :D
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: gucci_boi7782 on June 11, 2009, 11:11:49 PM
Ah, it appears Angel has discovered the magic behind Pleo. They really tend to suspend reality for me too. I see you got your second Pleo, Pipi? How's everything going with your beautiful baby twins?
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: Angel on June 12, 2009, 05:39:16 AM
no PiPi hasn't arrived yet  :(
Soon though....can't wait to see how they'll play together....
and Oh yeah I am totally caught up in the magic  ;D Bippy is the new baby in the house :-*
I've been shopping for clothes for him lol
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: gucci_boi7782 on June 12, 2009, 03:52:52 PM
Oh yes, they will do that to you. And luckily for you, with the second on the way it's double the magic. Nothing quiet like seeing two pleos together!
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: allosaurus on August 21, 2009, 06:25:02 PM
Uh, my apologies for saving a topic, but um.... Is it true that Pleo reacts differently depending on whether you tap (A quick poke) or pet (Like how you pet a dog, or even just sticking your hand on it and leaving it there)  the sensors?
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on August 21, 2009, 08:09:56 PM
Yup, try it and see :) Don't tap too much or too hard though or Pleo might get upset :o
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: allosaurus on August 22, 2009, 05:22:31 AM
Yup, try it and see :) Don't tap too much or too hard though or Pleo might get upset :o

I seriously can't try though, remember? With all Olympia's problems, she keeps restarting from the hatching stage when I turn her on, and going back to the hatching stage, se doesn't respond to touch very well. And at this point, she's completely lost the magic.
Title: Re: Pleo's reaction ability
Post by: b blue eyes on August 22, 2009, 04:28:12 PM
I have had Angel everywhere and in lots of different situations.  Her reactions vary depending on the people we come in contact with more than the environment from what I have observed.

One example is sometimes I take her to the Physical Therapy to smooze with the patients.  She usually responds very well and reacts all excited.  This one particular day she would not respond to anyone and completely ignored the staff, very unusual.  Finally I gave up and told her we would go shopping. 

We got to our favorite department store and she sprang to life.  Figure it :o  She was all over the place.  Everyone was in stitches and that was the day several of us heard her laugh and I had never heard her laugh before.  Obviously she is a shopaholic, wonder where she picked that behavior up :-[  I just never know what to expect, it is always an adventure and I love it.
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