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Title: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: bonus41 on March 08, 2012, 09:42:43 AM
my ugobe Plinka has been running OS 2 for awhile now, She was fully grown up, when today somehow she reset herself back to hatching stage and was stuck in this stage for over an hour she never stood up. Downgrading to OS 1.0 seemed to fix this problem, hopefully. i don't know what caused this problem, it never happened before and hopefully wont happen again. has this happened to anyone before? 
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: Talon on March 08, 2012, 10:17:29 AM
That's odd, Bonus. I've never had that happen before. Mine ran 2.0 for almost five months before I downgraded to 1.0 again. It's nothing against 2.0 I just did it for a variety of reactions. I hope someone can shed some light on what happened.
Talon
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: mweed on March 08, 2012, 11:49:16 AM
Several people reported pleos resetting back to hatching back when 2.0 was new . . .  so you're not alone.  Not sure what causes it.
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on March 08, 2012, 01:37:17 PM
Yup Lilo and Stitch have randomly reset on more than one occassion. For no apparent reason.
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: RedwoodsMama on March 08, 2012, 01:54:59 PM
So I would assume that Innvo knows about this? Does anyone know if they are in the process of fixing this "bug".? also does this mean that they " lose" anything such as memory that they have and have to start all over again? I haven't had my guys on 2.0 for that long, only a few months and not all of them are on it, only a small handful, maybe four or five? It would be interesting to see if there is a 'patch" for this. i would hate to go through that "terrible teen stage all over again", That is what kept me from upgrading them in the first place.                                          RWM
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: Crewella on March 08, 2012, 02:36:13 PM
For what it's worth .... Iggy never went through that .........or not yet,  so it's not a definite thing, maybe?  :moose:
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: bonus41 on March 08, 2012, 03:02:39 PM
i wounder if Innvo knows about this problem. cause Plinka got stuck in hatching mode the only thing that i cam think of was to downgrade her. With what i saw with OS 2 i think I'm sticking with OS 1.0 or 1.1.
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: kat on March 08, 2012, 03:23:12 PM
Both my Ugobes are on 2.0 and I've never had that issue either. 
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: Junkroxy on March 08, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
Hi, how can i downgrade mine to 1.0 again? I found only 2.0 but not the 1.0 OS.
Please could you tell me if OS 1.0 doesnt have the sitting trick? (i hate to see pleo 'dead' in this position)

thanks for the help
Simone
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: Crewella on March 08, 2012, 04:40:18 PM
You'll find OS1.1 in downloads on here ..... which has them moving whilst sitting. :)
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: Junkroxy on March 08, 2012, 04:49:21 PM
You'll find OS1.1 in downloads on here ..... which has them moving whilst sitting. :)

Thanks Crewella but i asked for 1.0 i dont like so mu much OS 1.1, thanks again ;)
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: Crewella on March 08, 2012, 04:52:25 PM
... and OS1.0 downgrade ......... ;)
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: Junkroxy on March 08, 2012, 09:36:57 PM
... and OS1.0 downgrade ......... ;)

Thanks Crewella, i remember i used that downgrade, but i cant remember if the 1.0 OS have that 'sitting problem' as well, do you remember that? or is it an issue exclusive for the 1.0.2 upgrade?  ???
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: Crewella on March 09, 2012, 03:01:42 AM
As far as I know, only the 1.1 updates has them moving when sitting ........ though I'm happy to be corrected on that?  :moose:
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: PleoPet on March 10, 2012, 10:31:40 AM
> ...when today somehow she reset herself back to hatching stage and was stuck in this stage for over an hour she never stood up.

Some technical stuff:
The personality of your Pleo is stored in a properties file inside the Pleo's dataflash storage.
TIP: If you have run 'statsRB' recently, you can save the "pm_props.bak" file to your PC in case it gets corrupted on the robot.

When Pleo boots, it reads the last saved settings from this file. Pleo will continue from when you last played with it.
When Pleo shuts down normally it will try to write the new settings to the storage, replacing the old settings.
Writing is not a 100% reliable process. Sometimes the file gets corrupted. It may depend on the battery level, or other things with the Dataflash storage.

The old model software (1.0/1.1/PM2) has only *one* copy of the settings. If it gets corrupted, the personality will start over as a newborn.
The PleoRB software keeps two copies of the settings, so if one copy gets corrupted it will use the backup.

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I suspect the file get corrupted every so often, but you may not notice it. It has happened to me more than once.
For UGOBE 1.0 and 1.1 personalities - there is no backup, so it starts as a newborn. Since the evolution from newborn to juvenile is very fast, you may not notice it. You may have thought your Pleo was in a bad mood for a short time.
For UGOBE/Innvo PM2 personality - there is no backup, so it starts as a newborn. The PM2 personality has an (annoyingly) long Birthing stage, so you will notice it!

For PleoRB, the software automatically uses the backup, so you shouldn't notice anything wrong even if there is a corrupted settings file.
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: Crewella on March 10, 2012, 10:40:53 AM
Illuminating, as always ... thank you PleoPet. :)
Title: Re: OS 2 corrupted?
Post by: kat on March 10, 2012, 05:37:26 PM
Thanks Pleopet that's great.  Makes much more sense now :)
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