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Title: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on November 26, 2011, 09:09:50 AM
I bought a Ugobe Pleo a week ago and right now I'waiting for delivery.  I bought it as a gift for my 4 y/o son. 
It's new in the box and never been used so it's running the original 1.0 software.  I have a few questions. 
Do I have keep him turned on for a certain period of time with the original software and after that update the software or I can do it immediately when turning it on for the first time? Also when updating do I have to update the software to 1.1 first, then play with the PLEO again for some time, and finally update him to the newest PM2 version?
I could not find any clear answers to my questions that's why I'm asking.  Probably I have to update the software to 1.1 first and then finally to PM2 but my main concern is if I can do it like that:
1) Turn it on with the original 1.0 software
2) Turn it off after a few min
3) Put the sd card with the 1.1 update
4) Turn it on again just to check out if it's working
5) Turn it off
6) Put the sd card with the PM2 update
7) Turn it on 

I appreciate any input.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: RedwoodsMama on November 26, 2011, 09:59:18 AM
Hi, and welcome to the forums, I am sure your son will love the Ugobe Pleo, I am a grown Mother with many Ugobes and they are wonderful. Because of his age, be sure to supervise him carefully though. They do reccomend ags 8+ but with supervision he should be fine. As for updating him, first I would say,why not just enjoy the orginal operating system and let him enjoy that till the battery runs out, it does have it's own unique sounds.( when you rub the Pleo under the chin, it souonds similiar to a coyote or wolf howling and is cute.) :D The second stage is 1.1, which a lot or vast majority of Pleos at least on Ebay will be running, This has it's own unique sounds as well, and it is my own personal favorite. The last operating or latest operating system is the current, 2.0 which I think a young child would have or could have some trouble getting used to. I think there are enouogh members here on the forum that could explain that better to you than me, as I only have one of my many Pleos running 2.0. It takes more battery cycles to get rid of some of the glitches or problems with 2.0, but once they are worked out, it is a great operating system and has lots of great tricks that Pleo can do.
              As for putting one SD card into Pleo, turning him on for a few moments and then turning him off, putting the next operating system in, etc, that is not neccesary to do, Let's say you just wanted to go straight to 2.0 . All you would need to do is to have the SD card copied with the 2.0 operating system on it, and then follow the directions for installing it onto Pleo, and put it directly into Pleo. You can go straight from 1.0 to 2.0 if you want and do not need to do 1.1 first, It is up to you to do which ever operating system you want, but why not enjoy each system for at least one battery cycle and get familiar with what Pleo can do. ? There is no hurry to have to update him unless you want to. And you can also save money on SD cards, by just using one and when done with the 1.1 and wanting to try the 2.0, just erase the files on the sd card and update with 2.0 on the same SD card, as a blank !
             One other word of caution, esp if this is for a Christmas present. If this is a Pleo bought on ebay and an Ugobe, a 2007 Model . Not used or hatched, more than likely and other members will tell you the same thing, 99% of the time, the original battery sitting in the box all this time, is not going to hold a charge an will be dead or perhaps let Pleo run for a few minutes at most. I have bought at least a dozen Pleos on ebay and they all needed new batteries. I only tell you this so there won't be an unhappy child opening up Pleo and not h aving him work.  I do sell batteries, the Ucube egg batteries to members here on the forum and they will give you twice as long as the usual batteries, 2 hrs compared to just one. You can also buy batteries directly from PleoWorld, but they will cost you more than myne, but they are available and work fine also. You and your son are in for a treat with Pleo. Welcome again to the forums.
                                                                    RedwoodsMama and the Pelo Clan of the Redwoods
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on November 26, 2011, 10:23:46 AM
^^Thank you for your great response :)  I think I'll take your advise and start with the original 1.0 software first.  
Yes I know I can use the same sd card.  I just have to format it first.  I always like to be prepared for everything so I have already ordered the Ucube egg battery. :) Thank you again.  I hope my son will enjoy the PLEO (probably I'll too :))
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: RedwoodsMama on November 26, 2011, 10:39:00 AM
Hi, that is great, Just curious, did you order the Ucube Egg battery also on ebay? If so it could have been me if ordered from somene in the US, as I go by a different name. What was the price of the egg battery, then I will know if I am the one who either sent you the battery or did you just buy it? I have sold lots of them in the past week or so.                 RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on November 26, 2011, 10:43:26 AM
Yes I bought it from ebay and I'm pretty sure it was bought from you.  The price was $58.95 before shhipping.  The seller name was fluffypurrcat. 
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: RedwoodsMama on November 26, 2011, 10:48:06 AM
 That is me! So did I send it already, when did you buy it? If so you know there is a special holiday gift in there, Oh, I think I remember now, you have a four year old and a older child and we had a conversation already about how well the four year old takes care of their toys and loves dinosaurs? I guess my memory is partially there. LOL. I am sure I mailed it a couple of days ago. Am I right? I thought you sounded familiar! :D Are you also the one I sent photos to in an email attachment or was that someone else...now my mind is boggled. I need my morning coffee! Glad it is you................ :D  RedwoodsMama   AKA  Fluffypurrcat  from Ebay
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on November 26, 2011, 12:16:15 PM
It was not me but you already shipped the battery a few days ago.  My son also loves dinosaurs and it was the main reason I went with the PLEO.  I was thinking about it a year ago but decided to wait till my son is a little older.
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: RedwoodsMama on November 26, 2011, 12:44:00 PM
Be sure to post the photos of the Pleo and your son when it arrives!  :)
 Take care and if you have any other questions, please ask.

                       RedwoodsMama
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on November 26, 2011, 01:05:14 PM
Hi Michal and welcome to the forum :)

The 2.0 OS has a longer development stage, it takes 6-8 charges for them to settle down to 'normal', before that they go through a teen stage where they are a bit moody and can be a little unresponsive. They are not bugs as RWM said, it is intended, but it can be a bit off putting for the unprepared.

1.0 however does have a couple of bugs, like Pleo falling asleep if he gets no attention for a few minutes, which you should also be aware off. Pleo becomes much more active on the later OS's.
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on November 26, 2011, 02:45:52 PM
Be sure to post the photos of the Pleo and your son when it arrives!  :)
 Take care and if you have any other questions, please ask.

                       RedwoodsMama

I will.  Thanks again.

Hi Michal and welcome to the forum :)

The 2.0 OS has a longer development stage, it takes 6-8 charges for them to settle down to 'normal', before that they go through a teen stage where they are a bit moody and can be a little unresponsive. They are not bugs as RWM said, it is intended, but it can be a bit off putting for the unprepared.

1.0 however does have a couple of bugs, like Pleo falling asleep if he gets no attention for a few minutes, which you should also be aware off. Pleo becomes much more active on the later OS's.

Thanks for your tips.  I'm gonna start with the original OS first and let it run till the battery runs out as RedwoodsMama suggested.  Then I'm gonna update it to 1.1 and play with it for a longer time.  I think it will be a good experience for my son to find out how to play and take care of the PLEO before I update it to the newest version.
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: RedwoodsMama on November 26, 2011, 05:18:12 PM
 I think that is a great idea to let your son learn to take care of Pleo, Have you thought of a name yet? Be sure to post those photos or video, Great idea, it is allways exciting getting new members and meeting new Pleos! You may find yourself shopping for another Pleo, they are contagious as most of us know. LOl :D
                                                  RWM
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on November 26, 2011, 06:43:46 PM
I think my son will pick the name.  And yes, I can imagine that Pleo can be addicting and probably it's much more fun when you can watch them interacting with each other.  So, who knows maybe I'll buy another one down the road. ;D
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: Crewella on November 26, 2011, 07:11:27 PM
Hello and welcome, I've little to add here, but I do believe it's better to update to 1.1 from 1.0 and then upgrade again, rather than straight to 2.0.

Have fun! :D
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on November 26, 2011, 07:36:18 PM
Hello and welcome, I've little to add here, but I do believe it's better to update to 1.1 from 1.0 and then upgrade again, rather than straight to 2.0.

Have fun! :D
Thank you.  Yes, I'm going to upgrade it to 1.1 and then 2.0 in the future.
I see that the name one of your Pleos is Monty The Python.  I love Monthy Python.  I watched every episode of Monty Python's Flying Circus, all of their movies, as well as most of movies which each of them made solo.
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: Crewella on November 26, 2011, 07:43:41 PM
Yay!   ;D

I especially love Terry Gilliam's films, too!  :D

I painted Monty in Burmese python colours, and there really was only one name for him! ;)


Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on November 26, 2011, 07:53:36 PM
Yes,  Terry Gilliam's movies are great and your Pleo in the pic below looks great, too  ;D
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: Crewella on November 26, 2011, 08:14:15 PM
Thanks!  :D

Just one warning - several of us here have first bought Pleos as gifts ......... and ended up being fascinated and unable to part with them. ;)
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on November 26, 2011, 08:20:15 PM
It's a gift for my son so he's gonna stay in the family anyway. :)  I bought it from an ebay seller from Hong Kong and I hope he'll work with no problem.  It's my only concern.
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: Crewella on November 26, 2011, 09:12:51 PM
If it's the $199 one, several on here have bought from them and been happy - they seem pretty decent. :)
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on November 26, 2011, 09:18:39 PM
Yes, it's probably the same one.  It goes with 2 batteries (probably useless anyway).
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: Crewella on November 26, 2011, 09:33:54 PM
Yep, that's it.  I believe the batteries have been OK so far.   :)

OK, that is, as far as the green NiMH batteries go - the egg charger batteries are MUCH better anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on November 26, 2011, 09:37:34 PM
That's why I bought an Ucube one.  I have to be sure that after my son opens his Pleo he'll be active for more than 10 min ;D
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: Crewella on November 26, 2011, 09:41:40 PM
The Ucube ones last about twice as long, and seem to make them more energetic - this way you should have the green ones as back ups.  Good plan! :D
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: fancyfont on November 26, 2011, 09:47:48 PM
Hi and welcome to the forum. Sounds like your family's going to have a wonderful CHristmas. :) All of my pleos have gone through the original os or came with 1.1. It's really fun to see each change. Highly recommend it!
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on November 26, 2011, 10:00:48 PM
The Ucube ones last about twice as long, and seem to make them more energetic - this way you should have the green ones as back ups.  Good plan! :D
 Usually before I buy something I do a lot of research to be sure it's what I really want and it'll work with no problems.  I emailed pleoworld directly with a few questions but they're very slow with their responses so I decided to join this forum and I'm glad I did it.  They probably not too much interested with supporting the oldest versions of pleo as well.

Hi and welcome to the forum. Sounds like your family's going to have a wonderful CHristmas. :) All of my pleos have gone through the original os or came with 1.1. It's really fun to see each change. Highly recommend it!
Thanks.  I hope everybody in my family will have fun.  
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: Crewella on November 26, 2011, 10:55:04 PM
Also, the Egg chargers and batteries aren't made by Innvo, so Pleoworld probably would not approve! ;)
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on November 26, 2011, 11:08:14 PM
Right.  They suggested their battery and charger but I went with the egg battery/charger because  I found a lot of great reviews and info on this website.  That's why we have all kinds of forums, right ;) 
I'm addicted to modding my car and I like to help ppl who do not have as much experience/knowledge as me with it.  There is no way to know everything and the internet is a great place to get advice about everything you want.
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: Crewella on November 26, 2011, 11:09:37 PM
Spot on!  :D
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: sherylsparrow on November 27, 2011, 11:28:36 AM
Hi! Congratz on your new Pleo! I had the same doubts as you when my Pleo arrived but I upgraded him directly to PM2 because I didn't wanted to erase his personality. I got terribly scared because of the strange behaviors he adopted but know he is almost cured (he has just gone through six batteries). He is extremely cute and I'm very happy with him even if he still does some weird things now and then. I'm sure your entirely family would love him a lot  ;D
Getting advantage of the topic I have a question... Do the Pleo personalities work on PM2? I want to try them specially the Christmas one but I haven't ye? Will it work?
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: fancyfont on November 27, 2011, 12:50:19 PM
Yes, they should work fine! :) Just be aware not to take sd card out while pleo is on. That is for all programs and skits.
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: sherylsparrow on November 28, 2011, 04:24:27 PM
Ok, thanks a lot! You really made me feel a lot more relaxed I was really nervous about trying the personalities because that's something I was planning to do since I first dreamed about having a Pleo. And also because his daddy was sad (he loves playing with toy soldiers and he wanted to try the Pleosaurus Rex) and I was feeling guilty on advance because I thought it wouldn't work because I insisted on updating to PM2  :(  Now I feel so much better THANKS!  ;D
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on November 29, 2011, 08:47:37 AM
My Ugobe Pleo just arrived.  It was pretty fast :)  I also received the Ucube battery with a small gift in the package from RedwoodsMama (thanks a lot ;D) 
I'll try to wake him up for the first time today at night after my son falls asleep.  I do not want him to see Pleo before Christmas. 
I'm gonna update to 1.1 pretty soon and go maybe for 2-3 more battery cycles to make him more responsive and active so my son will have more fun when he opens his Christmas gift.  If I have any questions I let you know for sure.
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: RedwoodsMama on November 29, 2011, 11:39:28 AM
Hi, glad he arrived. Be sure to leave feedback and I think when you turn him on you are going to not want to turn him off. LOL ;)( none of us do unless we just have to....) Your son will be so happy, but I think you will have a  hard time not interacting with him till Christmas............. ;D Just remember to keep the battery freshly charged a day before opening him so you can have close to 2 hrs or more if you want. Can't wait for photos but guess Christmas will be here before you know it.                                 RWM
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on November 29, 2011, 02:06:52 PM
Hehe be careful, Pleo's are addictive ;)
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: Crewella on November 29, 2011, 05:31:10 PM
He may well be already running 1.1 - ones made later were loaded with the latest software, I believe.  Check what kind of singing he does when rubbed under the chin for a while, the earlier models do a wolfy sort of howl, the 1.1s more of a rising scale (more tuneful!).

Congrats, I'm glad he arrived safely!  :D
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: sherylsparrow on November 30, 2011, 08:11:26 AM
Cool he arrived! Your son will love him! And I agree with everyone, once you have to hide him 'till Christmas you will miss him. They are so lovable  ;D
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on December 09, 2011, 09:42:30 PM
It was more than a week from my last post.  My Pleo is running the 1.1 OS right now.  He's active, he does all of his tricks but one.  I was able to make him sit down just once.  When I touch his chin and back sensor he just bend his knees.  When I hold the sensors a little longer, he just fells asleep.  I'm not sure if his chin sensor works properly.  When petting him under his chin I was able to make him sing maybe 2 times.  He actually sings the same song sometimes by himself, especially if I do not interact with him for a few minutes.  Most of the time after rubbing his chin for a while he gets angry and walks backward.  Today he's on his 4th battery.   
The Ucube battery is great.  Every time it takes about 2h to drain it completely.  My only complain is the charger.  I watched a video posted by RedwoodsMama and my charger behaves different.  After I plug it in the red light turns on for maybe 1 sec, then turns off completely.  It starts blinking when I place the battery in it.  But the battery can be sitting there for 4-5 h and it's still blinking.  There is no sign then the battery is fully charged.  I have to take it off, unplug the cable, plug the cable again, and when I put the charged battery again into the egg charger, the red light finally is solid (no blinking)  I use the original adapter from the package I got, so I do not know if it's the adapter or charger problem.  The battery is charged every time but It would be better for me to just look at the charger to know that the battery is already charged rather than check out my watch to find out how many hours the battery is in the charger.  Then take it out, unplug, plug back the adapter and put back the battery to see if the red light is blinking or solid.  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on December 09, 2011, 10:03:22 PM
My ucube chargers are a little dodgy too, I think it is because the battery is somewhat loose rather than being held tightly in place. Sitting a can of soup on it helps hold the battery firmly down so you could try that as well.
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: Crewella on December 09, 2011, 10:07:58 PM
Pleos don't have enough weight in their back end to sit down on their own - if you put one hand on their rear and one under their chin they will 'assume the position', but you need to help them actually sit by gently pushing them back and down.

It does sound as though your charger is not functioning properly (if it's not a matter of just making sure it's properly seated) - if it's a recent purchase I would contact the seller and explain, and please make sure you don't leave the battery charging for much longer than the usual charging time.  Just to be on the safe side. :)
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on December 09, 2011, 10:14:44 PM
I've tried this also.  When I put pressure on the battery after 4h of charging the light stood solid but it happened only once. In the next 3 charges I've tried to do it again and it did not work.  The only way to get the red light stays solid was to take out the battery, disconnect the charger, connect it again, and put the charged battery back.  I think that the company which makes those chargers should improve them to be more user friendly.  Also, even a simple instruction should be included in the kit.  I can live with it but those are just my suggestion and opinion.
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on December 09, 2011, 10:25:33 PM
Pleos don't have enough weight in their back end to sit down on their own - if you put one hand on their rear and one under their chin they will 'assume the position', but you need to help them actually sit by gently pushing them back and down.
Yes, I know that Pleo can not sit by himself.  What I was saying is he just bend his back legs.  I think he should move his back legs a little forward but they should be straight, then I can help him sit down.  Probably his tail should also move a little up.  When I put pressure on those 2 sensors he just bend his knees and if I want to help him sit, he just gets angry.  Maybe I do something wrong.  I could not find any video which shows how to do it correctly.
It does sound as though your charger is not functioning properly (if it's not a matter of just making sure it's properly seated) - if it's a recent purchase I would contact the seller and explain, and please make sure you don't leave the battery charging for much longer than the usual charging time.  Just to be on the safe side. :) 
Actually, it's charging the battery but just does not show when the battery is fully charged.  I know I should not charge the battery too long.  I did it only to check out the charger.
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: Crewella on December 09, 2011, 10:34:09 PM
This shows sitting from about 2.30 onwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSOel51fOEA
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on December 09, 2011, 10:39:52 PM
^^Thanks.  I just get him sit down 2 times:)  I was doing the same thing they did in the video with their first attempt when he got angry.  
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: Crewella on December 09, 2011, 10:47:46 PM
Yay!  Glad it worked!  ;D
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on December 09, 2011, 10:54:52 PM
I see you usually wake up early (at least when I'm on this forum) It's 6 A.M. in the UK :)
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: Crewella on December 09, 2011, 11:10:16 PM
........ or I'm still up! ;)
Title: Re: Updating Ugobe Pleo
Post by: michal on December 09, 2011, 11:20:00 PM
You're on the Ucube battery, too?? ;D  I live in the US now but I was born in Poland and spent 3/4 of my life over there.  I've seen a lot of the European countries but never been to England.  Maybe I'll take a trip in the future.  Good luck England for Euro 2012  ;)
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