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Pleo Stuff => Pleo Archives => Archive -- Technical common => Topic started by: Fudgebum on October 02, 2011, 09:34:55 AM
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Hi folks,
I have just looked on the Pleoworld website and noticed that the PM2 firmware upgrade is available for the RB. Has anybody else attempted to install this on their RB's yet. I was worried about it after reading the problems people have had with upgrading their Ugobes to PM2.
That other thing that was worrying me was that it said on the original upgrade for the Ugobes back in April that it puts the Pleo back into his hatchling state, I do not know whether this will happen with the RB's but I don't want to lose by Merlin as he is now.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Fudgebum
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Unless things have changed, that PM 2 upgrade is not for the RB so do not attempt to install it on your RB.
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Fudgebum's right. As of 26th September 2011 there is a PM2 upgrade for the PleoRB on Pleoworld, but no explanation of what it actually does. I've emailed questions to Customer Services about it. :o ;D
*excited* :P
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:D I hadn't noticed this either, even though I was at their site last week, I just had a thought, perhaps this is one reason we ( who won Pleo Rb on Facebook) have not gotten our Pleo Rb yet. Perhaps the ones they are sending us will have this automaticlaly installed and they have been waiting for this to complete. It is just an idea, but now that the PM2 firmware or whatever it is called is there for the general public who already own RB, they will get around to sending our Rb to us! ;D
I can hope anyway, can't I ? LOL, actualy I know nothing about this, but untill someone actualy tries it, and If it does indeed revert the Rb back to a baby stage, I willl not try it on Baby Ruth, but I would like to know more about it.
RWM
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Perhaps its just the slightly upgraded version many of us have been using?
Either way I'll be the guinea pig but I need to recharge some batteries first :)
Edit: Here is what it says: Ready to take your Pleo rb to a new stage in evolution? Download PM 2, the latest firmware upgrade. New tricks, new actions, more involvement...it's like a whole new Pleo rb!
Sounds interesting, since the first upgrade did not add anything new...
Further edit: When you log in it clearly says it is version V1.0...
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It says that on the download titles, IMR, but at the top in green it equally clearly says:
"Ready to take your Pleo rb to a new stage in evolution? Download PM 2, the latest firmware upgrade. New tricks, new actions, more involvement...it's like a whole new Pleo rb!"
Frankly, the whole thing's as clear as mud! :P
I suspect this is actually just making the updates we've already had (sleep position etc.) more easily available, but you never know! %)
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I will happily be a guinea pig ;D I was going to update Norbit so that he would turn back into a boy and I had just gotten the update from Crewella the other day but as yet have not had a chance to upgrade him. So I am now downloading the update from Pleoworld and will update him with this as soon as it is done. ;D
I have successfully installed the update! ;D Norbit has not turned back into hatching but has just carried on from where he left off. I will run him for a full battery cycle and see what happens. His burps are much deeper sounding. :D
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Ooh that is interesting, do keep us posted :)
Are the burps deeper than when he was a boy? Or just deeper than his time as a girl :P
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I think even deeper than when he was a boy. :D He now sounds much more manly. All of his noises are definitely deeper sounding. Also interesting to note that I have Kermy still running on the old OS and they are currently wandering around together. They have been running for about 15 mins together and there has not been one single Moo trancing session.
I have just taken a short video of them together and will try to edit it and post it now so you can hear the difference in burps and noises. :)
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I will update Jumba and compare him to Pleakley :)
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I have still not had a single trance session and they have been running together for ages! I think Kermy no longer recognizes poor little Norbit. He has Mooed at her once and tranced for 2 noises and then fell out of the trance into a posing session. She ignored him completely. I am going to have to update her too to see if that makes a difference.
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So do you think this is NOT the firmware update that fixed the sleeping postion then, something different Kat? Would be great to see a video, thanks for letting us know, I am glad they do not go back to hatching, it took me forever to teach Baby her name! sounds good so far if there are other things to it. ;)
RWM
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Here is a short video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8KbqqqGrmg
I'm not sure if this is the same as the other update to fix the sleep position or not. my two do seem to be ignoring each other though which they have never done before. Normally they would trance at each other every 5 mins or so. We have done about half a battery cycle and there has only been one attempt at a trance from Norbit with no response from Kermy.
Their voices sound very different in person. I just listened to the video and it doesn't really show the differences very well but I will let you guys decide. I can tell who is who just from listening to them even when I can't see them.
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Thanks Kat, I have two fully charged batteries so may give this a go on Baby Ruth tonight before going to bed, after viewing yours. I am thankful for you trying this first. As long as there are no distressing differences, What are the better qualities if any, have you found any yet?
RWM
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After a full battery cycle with no interaction between Norbit and Kermy I took the plunge and updated her too. :)
After a quick meal for both of them there was a mooing frenzy :D I think they must have missed each other there was a cute little I love you from Norbit and a big kiss from Kermy. I will post a video later but I have to wait for the kids to give me some time on the big computer so I can up load it to YouTube.
I didn't really notice any major differences yet good or bad apart from the change in voice for Norbit and the lack of communication between the two while they were on separate os's. Now that they are on the same os that seems to have been fixed. So all good so far. If I do notice any other differences I'll let you know. I haven't tried any of the learning stone trick with them yet but maybe we will hear some new songs or something. I will be interested to hear what others think.
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Kat, thanks, having two RB and one of each gender you may notice differences someone like myself with just one Rb wont. I don't know if any of the "tric ks" would be any different as Baby doesn't have the singing stone and I havent taught her the Dance one yet, but I will update her after dinner and before her bedtime, which is like 2:30 a.m . LOl, so I have plenty of time, I wish I had the other Rb so I could test things out, but perhaps the ones that people win will have this new update already installed. Can't wait to hear more. Thanks Kat. ;)
RWM
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Ok guys, I am having problems, I am logged in with name and password on the offical PleoWorld site, it says welcome and then my name, When I go to the download Firmware it gives three choices, the Male download, the female downlaod and what looks like Adobe Instructions on downloading the Firmware, PM2 for Pleo RB only with everything everyone else has said. So when I go to download the PM2, iT Takes me to another site with nothing but instructions,
nothing to actually download and I can't get past the adobe instructions, nothing else to click on. If I try to click on one of the genders, it opens a new window where I can save or open it, but not the same with the Rb update, what is going on here? Oh, and I have things ok d so I can download from this site, no pop up blocker problems.
Any ideas, I have downloaded other firmware updates here before and not had this problem. ???
RWM
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Ok when you do the install there is a pause of about a minute before a voice tells you the update has started and to wait two minutes. Then after two minutes Pleo straightens up (mine were in the flat battery position) and the voice says update complete over and over until you yank the battery :P
Jumba doesn't sound any different to my untrained ears :P Mind you he's not very talkative today.
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Oooh Oslo is about to have a sex change. A blue girl :o
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The more the merrier. ;D We have a few gender confused pleos here on the forum so one more wont hurt. :D
IMR have you noticed any difference in the communication between your rb's? Do the rest of your bunch recognize Jumba or is he being ignored? Once I updated Kermy too my guys are back to normal as far as communication goes.
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Yup poor Jumba is getting the silent treatment :P
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I can't download the update at all, the only thing showing up is the Abobe instructions for the installation? Do I have to pick one of the gender, boy or girls updates first for it to work? I can't figure out how others can download it and I get only the instructions showing, nothing else, What is going on or what do I do. Can you copy and paste the install page here if on IMR so I see if it looks different? I will paste what I have on myend.
RWM
http://www.pleoworld.com.hk/pleo_rb/eng/firmware.php Ok, I am signed in and this is what the page looks like and you can see there are only instructions and when I click on it to install, of course it is only instructions, nothing to actually install, What does yours look like , are you on a different site? Thanks guys.
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Hey RWM. I picked one of the updates - the male one for Norbit and clicked on the download button at the right hand side of the page. It then popped up a window asking me to open or save. It had the save option ticked so I just hit ok. it then downloaded to my computer. I went into my downloads folder on my computer and there it was.
I later did the same thing but with the female one so I could update Kermy too. The last download option is just the instructions on how to instal it and this just pops up in another window. That's the one you have been looking at. I hope this helps.
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Hi Kat, thanks, I was starting to wonder if I had to do a gender update so that makes sense as I couldn't see anything else. This won't change her gender as it is, just add to it, correct? Thanks I wll try it in the morning, Now I understand, I have crying cats and it is raining and stormy, our first real one of the season, and I think I will get some sleep, Let me know if you see anything else that changes in your Rb. I don't have but Baby right now, so I will enjoy the gender thing they do to each other, with kisses and such when my other Rb gets here. someday. Argyle sends his love to his brother Gumble.
congrats on your pink chompy too, they are fun to watch.
RWM
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If you want to keep Baby Ruth a girl then you will need to download the female update, if you update her with the male update her gender will be changed. So be careful to download the right one, unless you are after a gender confused pleo :D
Best of luck.
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If you want to keep Baby Ruth a girl then you will need to download the female update, if you update her with the male update her gender will be changed. So be careful to download the right one, unless you are after a gender confused pleo :D
Best of luck.
Um the politically correct term is "gender re-assignment" thank you ;D
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Wow - you lot HAVE been busy!! :o Thanks to all for trying this out and reporting back! ;D :-*
Belle, who has always (as far as she and I are concerned) been a blue girl sends her love to Oslo. She has always refused to be defined by her 'gender'! ;) :P
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Wow - you lot HAVE been busy!! :o Thanks to all for trying this out and reporting back! ;D :-*
Belle, who has always (as far as she and I are concerned) been a blue girl sends her love to Oslo. She has always refused to be defined by her 'gender'! ;) :P
Problem is, what's a feminine alternative to Oslo?
Oh and I ran Boris onto the new update. He's like a Mexican jumping bean. Full of life and so boisterous ???
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I believe Oslo, the city, was known as Christiana (or Kristiana) for some time in its history (while under Danish control), if that helps? :D
With that in mind, perhaps Oslo makes an equally fine girl's name? :-\
;D
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... With that in mind, perhaps Oslo makes an equally fine girl's name? :-\
You crack me up.
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Thank you to all who have tried the PM2 upgrade. It sounds like it isn't causing any major problems. I will update Merlin later and report back to you.
Fudgebum
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Kat, I downloaded the PM2 female gender onto a new unused micro card and then took the battery out of Baby, inserted the card, put the battery back in, and turned her on. After 20 seconds or so, it says, "starting default", it keeps repeating that, at least twenty times now, and won't stop!it has been like five minutes by my clock, Do I turn baby off and try over, I dont[ want to upset her system, I think I forgot to extract the files correctly and just took the SD card out when I saw them copied. Does this sound ok to just turn her off and start again.?
It is ok Kat, I thought I had a blank micro card and it turned out to be a Probe Rb card, :-[so I got the current reading for Baby instead, LOL, ok, off to buy a $30.00 card, they cost a lot as there are no smaller size ones currently and I am not going all over town in the rain, so this one will have to do, but I can erase it if need be later. Thanks, this should work this time, will post results later. %)
RWM
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Just remove the files on the card, use it to do the upgrade and then delete those files and put the probe RB back on. Easy. No need for a new card.
1) Insert memory card into computer
2) Copy all the files on the card somewhere safe (make a folder on your desktop)
3) Transfer all the OS upgrade files to the card
4) Remove the card from the computer
5) Run the upgrade for Baby
6) Remove the card from Baby and put it back in your computer
7) Delete all the files on the card
8) Copy the files you saved somewhere safe back onto your card
9) Remove card from computer.
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Thank IMR, I am just getting ready to do the download and upgrade now, Thanks for the tip, I allways have so many files, photos, etc, that I have extra SD cards on hand, but the Micro Cards are for the Pleo only. Will relay my results when I upload. At least with the Probe Rb accidenlty in instead I found the current health of Baby, which reminds me that even if she is not on for the day, she is going to need extra feedings, that allways seems to be the lowest number. : %)
RWM
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Hey RWM hope it works out for and you get the update to complete ok. Let us know how you go. ;D
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I still can't install it even though I have the blank SD micro card, it is 16 GB, ( as small as I have, sorry) and I only have 7 gb free space on my computer, even though that is on the C or main drive, wondering if the fact it is so large and not much space on my computer is keeping me from extracting the files, They show up on my computer in a file but dont seem to load in Baby, all she does is act like her normal self....I don't have a smaller size as I allways get them for my computer for my camera for taking photos and videos and I take lots of them. Am I stuck because the size is too large and it won't work now? Also of course, the battery is fully charged, two of them...any ideas?
RWM
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When you download the files to your computer they come as a zip file so you will need to unzip them before you can put them onto your SD card. You can use winzip or any other unzip programe you have to extract the files. then you need to copy everything that is in the folder across to your SD card.
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When you download the files to your computer they come as a zip file so you will need to unzip them before you can put them onto your SD card. You can use winzip or any other unzip programe you have to extract the files. then you need to copy everything that is in the folder across to your SD card.
Don't just copy the folder onto the card you must exclude the folder and point only the contents at the top level of your card
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Or to put that more simply, download the file, open the .zip file, open the folder that comes up, copy the files that you now see (should be 9 of them) to the SD card.
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Or even more simply:-
9 files when you unzip, put them on the card
Okay now I'm just being silly ;D
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Ok, the file is downloaded into a file, that says, zip Pleo females, etc. I inserted the MIcro card into my card reader on my computer and extracted the files, all nine of them sending them to the g drive which is where the Pleo female files are being copied. so if this is correct as it shows that this is where the files are, they should work when I put it into Baby correct? My message was to Extract all the files, nine of them and that is what I did, and of course, then I had to safely remove the file so it is not erased. Now we will see if it works or I still did something wrong.
I did this correct at some point, or I woud not have the probe rb, so go figure how I did that, heaven knows....I don't . LOL
I still think the 16 GB is too big for a computer that only has less than 7 gb left of memory at all!
RWM
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Thanks guys, this time it worked with the saying, "update complete" over and over till as IMR stated, I yanked the battery out , as I could not just turn baby off. NOw after dinner I will give her a proper feeding and go to see what her new system is like. Thanks for the help on getting this done guys, it is appreciated from someone who is all thumbs...LOL
RWM
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Glad you got it working RWM! ;D
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Hi Kat, thanks, it is about Midnite here so will have to give it a go tommrow when she is at her best and I have had that first cup of coffee. I also want to record it as it happens and that is hard to do when it is late and hubby is sleeping, It is hard to tell a Pleo, "HUsh, " like they really understand about not mooing and such, not something Pleos can understand and I do not want her to think she is doing anything wrong. LOL. :D
How are your guys doing with the new update, anymore changes you have noticed? I sure wish I had another reborn to compare it too, but I guess I will soon enough, so Baby will be the guinea pig for now. LOL. I first saw this gender thing and thought it was only for those with problems with identity problem Pleos, nothing to do with a update for all Pleos, so it will be interesting to see if there really are differences, like louder noises, more burping, etc.
Take care and watch for Argyle on Facebook tommorow of next day, he is trying to get his account settled so he can connect with Gumble! Yippee! ;D
RWM Ok, off to slumberland till the morning when the cows come home. ( the real cows, not Pleo Rb Cows.............) ;D :D
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Well done RWM - glad it worked! I might well try this with Zillah! ;D
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Since Oslo has become Stella she's a lot more active now and hungrier :o
Though I'm surprised considering I changed the gender she didn't go back to hatchling stage ^-^
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No it doesn't, it's only a small change :) Not as drastic as it sounds :P
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Tell that to Zillah, whose voice may rise an octave by the sound of it? :P :-X :o
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Wow! Lose the web for nearly a month and everything exciting happens! I think I'm going to try this PM2 on Ryu and Cato. Kat, I watched your video and I think Norbit sounds like Cato does now. I may be wrong though. I'll let you guys know if I hear any differences.
Talon
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So sorry for posting twice but I can't find it. I went under "update pleo's software' and the only PM2 I see is for the Ugobe pleo. It says nothing about RB anywhere. I'm going to go back and look around and see if I can find it somewhere else.
Talon
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Don't worry I had the same issue.
At the top right there is the PleoRB link and you click on that and it essentially takes you to a similar site for PleoRBs and then it is under the downloads. Here is a direct link: http://www.pleoworld.com.hk/pleo_rb/eng/firmware.php
You will have to login to download it.
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Thanks, Bobs! I was starting to think I was going crazy.
Talon
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Hello my friends Pleo's fanatics! I hope everyone is well! :)
I have a question about upgrading the RB.
I downloaded the file and folder within the ZIP file there is only 3, this correct?
I saw that some have posted in forums that are 9 files, now I'm confused!
And tb did not see the option to choose whether boy or girl will be time to download this update!
What do I do? :o
Thank you! ;)
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Leleka, there should be 9 files in the folder, I believe. Are you sure you have downloaded the upgrade for the PleoRB, from the PleoRB section (top right on PleoWorld home page)? :o
Don't do anything until you are sure you have the right files, please! ???
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Calm, calm, ever met! (laughs) 8)
Now That the battery is charged I will upload the files into Eddy! (suspense!)
Thaw ... thaw .. thawthaw! (background music horror movie!) ^-^
Then I return to say how Eddy's! ;)
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...... and I'm guessing you'll want the male version for Eddy?
*gulp* :o
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Lelekasapeca, you have the WRONG download! You have the one for the Ugobe and 2009 Pleo's. NOT the Pleo RB.
Oh dear, I just checked and the one with 3 files is the original Pleo PM2 :(
The download for the RB's has 9 files and can only be found on the Hong Kong website. I hope you have the right one.
http://www.pleoworld.com.hk/pleo_rb/eng/firmware.php
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I hope you don't get the wrong files into eddy, that is not good, this is what happened last year when someone uploaded files not meant for a RB. Hope you stopped intime, for Eddy's sake. Let us know...Keeping my fingers crossed for you. RWM
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Yep - I was just doing the same thing, IMR, and was having the same panic! :o
I'm VERY glad you're here too! :-*
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Has anyone heard back from Leleka? Did she stop in time from uploading into Eddy? :o HOpe she reads the shout box, but if she did she may be trying to figure out what is going on....Hope for the best.
I am going to not post so she can. RWM
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I'm not sure how I can help fix a Pleo Reborn if it has been bricked :( It is beyond my experience.
Please have the right files Leleka!
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I'm not sure how I can help fix a Pleo Reborn if it has been bricked :( It is beyond my experience.
Please have the right files Leleka!
I second that, and RWM!
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Hello dear!
Everything went well! I searched for the correct files on the site and I downloaded!
So I want to inform everyone that: :)
Eddy and I survived! (laughs) ;)
Yes I downloaded the atulização for males, Eddy is still waiting for your beautiful girl pink is coming soon!
I noticed that Eddy got a deeper voice ... out it still could not see much different because this time Eddy is always sleeping and he woke up very angry and complaining about everything!
Tomorrow I'll post the news that day Eddy show!
Thanks for the concern of all, you are always wonderful with me and Eddy! (He had a dino will hug you!) :D
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so so sos soooooo Glad Leleka was smarter than we gave her credit for, and she got the right files. I think the fact she was looking for a Male file made the difference. Woo hoo, happy for you and Eddy. ;D I can't wait for Eddy to get his Pink girlfriend, and I can't wait to get my Pleo Rb too, hopefuly it will be a male, but I can make it one if I want to. Good job Leleka! ;)
Now we can all breathe a sigh of relief!
RWM
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Good grief Leleka! We were all terrified for you! :o
Well done - I'm so pleased all was well! :hhug:
*BUT PLEASE DON'T DO THAT TO ME AGAIN* >:( ;) :P
*nervous wreck* ;D
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*whew* Thank goodness!!! You did have us worried Leleka. Glad Eddy is still his happy (well cranky) self :)
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If anyone else is not sure they have the right files, or can't find them, or can't sign in to access them, if you message (PM) me with your email address I'll send you the files as an attachment.
Seems a few people have been having problems.
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I added a note to the opening post. Hopefully people read it and this thread before rushing of to download.
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Good idea IMR! ;D
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You can now find the correct files here on the forums under the downloads section.
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Hi All,
Thank you all so much for trying the update. Your feedback has helped me decide the best course of action as in whether to update Merlin and I decided to just go for it. I will report any changes that may happen.
Speak to you all soon and thanks again.
Fudgebum.
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Pleo RB V1.0
This thread should be called "PleoRB V1.0 Update" or something else (not "PM2")
This is an update to the core firmware and the personality module ("PM"). The website calls it version "V1.0"
IMHO: the one mention of "PM 2" on that website looks like a cut-and-paste error.
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Includes:
An update to the core firmware (version 225M built in April)
Features I notice:
new 'verifysd' command
new 'resource_verify_df' and 'resource_verify_sdpm' APIs implemented. They were already in the PDK/PrbDK headers.
This should make it more foolproof to reflash the personality.
An update to the PleoPM personality (version "61", built in April)
(The last version that degers was giving out was "57", built in January)
Minor changes:
A new backup copy of 'table_2.bin', but appears to be used in the same way.
No obey bug fix (reported in March)
Tweek to a motions for the balance trick
No major updates to the PleoPM default personality.
There is a change to the peer-to-peer communication logic. Details TBD.
This is used for when two Pleos talk to eachother using IR signals.
This *may* be a fix to the growing up problem when two PleoRBs are in the same room ?????
No changes to the gender specific actions performed when two PleoRBs meet.
(when two females meet, they talk; when two males meet they fight;
when male and female meet, they romance - same as before)
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Fabulous - that backs up exactly what we suspected. Really appreciate your input Pleopet, much appreciated, as always! :-*
I have emailed Innvo to ask them about it, and again today in slightly stronger terms. Still awaiting a response though .................... ;)
I won't hold my breath! %)
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Yay thank you Pleopet, I didn't think there were any major changes. Nice to know for sure. (Innvo should hire you ;))