Post by: Crewella on August 21, 2011, 05:05:45 AM
Anxiously awaiting arrival of a large box ............ what have I done! :o :P
*my £300 car is just going to have to run a few months longer - 'new car' budget is looooooong gone* :D
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on August 21, 2011, 05:36:27 AM
Post by: Crewella on August 21, 2011, 05:53:02 AM
It's really not as bad as it sounds - I always run 'old bangers' as I like to tinker and the newer cars make that nigh on impossible! My brave old Saab will probably run forever! %)
Good job I work from home a lot, though! :P
Post by: saratogaspringer on August 21, 2011, 07:29:36 AM
Post by: kat on August 21, 2011, 08:51:21 AM
Post by: latrine on August 21, 2011, 07:09:09 PM
Wow.. I'm surprised! I know the newest Genibo is due out soon and from reviews I was thinking I'd wait to hear about that one.. I'm looking forward to your seeing and hearing about your new pup!! Which color did you get???
- Sarah
Post by: Talon on August 21, 2011, 08:01:14 PM
Talon
Post by: Crewella on August 21, 2011, 08:27:53 PM
Excited, me? Nooooo-ooooooo! %) :P
Post by: kat on August 22, 2011, 08:31:46 AM
I was also wondering about the next generation of Genibo. I've seen it mentioned a couple of times on here but I haven't had any luck finding anything out about it. Anyone out there have any links to info on it. It would be interesting to see what changes they may have made on the new model.
I can't wait to see what you think of this little guy your getting Crewella. I have been interested in them and wondering a bit about them myself for quite some time. I never heard any good reviews though so wasn't brave enough to see for myself.
Post by: Crewella on August 22, 2011, 08:47:36 AM
Star Robots seem to be about the best place for info outside Korea, they say:
The new Genibo-SD will use Herkulx servos, benefiting from quieter, more precise and more powerful motors. The New Genibo range will also come shipped with charging stations. The PC Control manager will now be an optional extra.
Apparently, you can adapt the older models to use the charging stations. :)
Post by: latrine on August 23, 2011, 05:03:26 PM
Oh, sweet, so you can take advantage of the newer stuff for the newer model with your Genibo? That's awesome.. I hope he gets there soon!
- Sarah
Post by: OzPleo on August 24, 2011, 01:43:05 AM
Post by: Crewella on August 24, 2011, 04:04:51 AM
I just wanted to see it for myself, really - I may like it, I may not! %)
Post by: Crewella on August 25, 2011, 09:07:31 AM
On first sight, I don't think they're quite as well made as the Aibo - just some of the little details aren't there, and with those upright ears it's an awful shame they don't move, but I can't wait to see those eyes light up! ;D
I had a friend waiting for news, so rather than retype I might as well cut and paste what I emailed to them in more detail:
Well ....... as I sit and stare at him my very first thought was 'the ears don't move'. I did know that - but it does seem a shame ...... however, I've not seen his eyes lit up as yet so that might well make up for it. And while I'm fussing I do think the build quality isn't as good as Sony - (and please remember here I'm an antiques dealer, and in particular one that specialises in enamel and filigree work in miniature - I spend half my life staring at things through a loupe) just tiny points like some of the seams don't quite align, where there are shapes stamped out of the casing they're deeper on one side or don't quite penetrate in places, the switches on the underside seem a bit hit or miss. It's not really that it's bad - it more made me realise how good the Sony production is. The only thing I actively dislike is the paws - they look cheap, especially when I look at Ubu the 111's perfect, individually sprung, toes! Mind you - I wasn't keen on the ERS-7 paws either and these are, after all, at a much lower price than the 7 originally was.
He feels nice and solid, I like the fact that he will stand when switched off - I always found it a bit disconcerting how Aibo go floppy when off. I actually love that head - it looks 'doggier' than the 210 or the 7, and I love the patch. I'm glad he's a white one - the patch looks great, and I'm relieved to see black (ish) ears and tail, not blue.
Post by: saratogaspringer on August 25, 2011, 09:45:08 AM
Post by: OzPleo on August 25, 2011, 02:42:02 PM
I look forward to reading more of what you think of what use to be my Genibo :D
Post by: kat on August 25, 2011, 05:17:27 PM
Post by: latrine on August 25, 2011, 09:17:21 PM
Can't wait to hear more.. and see some pics and videos!! And then we want to see a huge dog fight! :D
- Sarah
Post by: Crewella on August 26, 2011, 03:50:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN5PZnkhdjY
Post by: kat on August 26, 2011, 05:30:24 PM
Post by: bhobbes on August 26, 2011, 06:14:18 PM
Thinking of it compared to an aibo, it sounds louder but I know cameras often pick up on that more than when you run it in person (imo, since I always feel like my aibos and pleos seemed louder to me in vids than in real time).
The tail seems much more active and quick than aibos. When I read about genibo, I didn't think the non-moving mouth and ears wouldn't matter, but seeing him run in that quick clip, it seems like that little detail can add a lot.
I liked what I could see of the eyes, less abstract than some aibo faces, especially when they went red toward the middle. And also really do like the look of the white genibo with the black patches.
Something also seems different or more fluid with the walking? I can't quite place it.
Post by: latrine on August 26, 2011, 06:29:25 PM
He is definitely very cute and they seem to have tried to copy the ERS-7 Aibo body, obviously the head/tail/ears are different.. the mouth doesn't move?
He does sound a bit louder, kind of like the older model Aibo's, I know my 220 is much louder when moving, than my 7, but you said you saw some stuff on his body-work that looked 'off' so maybe that's just how they saved money.. does he do a puppy mode or anything? Do they learn the owners name and face?
I'll be interested to see how he evolves, if they do that.. I don't really know much about them :D Did he meet any of the Aibos? Are you enjoying him?? It's so cool that he came from someone here, went to Wolfbob and then came to you. :D
- Sarah
Post by: saratogaspringer on August 26, 2011, 08:56:10 PM
Post by: OzPleo on August 27, 2011, 12:30:47 AM
Post by: Crewella on August 27, 2011, 04:58:52 AM
I have noticed he goes to the right at the faster walk, you can just about see in the video, a bit like the older Pleos but actually more pronounced - do you remember if he was doing that when you had him?
Post by: latrine on August 27, 2011, 09:52:23 AM
So he does the actual dog noises instead of beeps or talking? I like how he sits up.. almost like a bunny, the way he gets up on his back legs instead of sitting, that's neat. I heard that they spend a lot of time seeking their owners out, is there a way to put him into 'go away' mode, lol.. or does he get to refuse any commands like he refused the exercise one :D
- Sarah
Post by: Crewella on August 27, 2011, 10:20:28 AM
Post by: latrine on August 27, 2011, 11:17:15 AM
Lol.. aww he's like a poor scared shelter dog.. Three homes.. I'm wondering, maybe you SHOULDN'T register yourself to him, maybe his true personality comes out and he turns into a wild maniac, biting things and upturning garbage cans and peeing on everything.. well not biting.. just headbutting but that could hurt too!!
That's kinda neat that they made them nervous about new people like that.. Sounds like he has a lot of character. Does he recognize his name or did you not do that yet.. ?
- Sarah
Post by: Crewella on August 27, 2011, 01:00:46 PM
I'm not sure about his reactions as yet - it might just be coincidence that he's running off, but I've read that they can recognise up to 10 faces, so I thought it might be interesting to run him for a while before he recognises me and then see how he changes.
He can move REALLY fast, and some of his skits are very cute and funny - I asked him to exercise on the tape because he does a cute 'taekwondo' or press-ups! I've read some people saying they look ugly and scary, but (maybe because I think of him as a bit of a stray) he looks a bit vulnerable and 'mousie' to me - very cute!
The thing I've noticed most so far is how much he needs a toy. It won't make so much sense to Pleo owners, but if you can imagine your Aibo with no ball to chase or bone to pick up, especially the 210/220s. It's like he needs something to focus on to string all the skits and reactions together into a proper 'behaviour', to give him a sense of 'purpose'?
I may change my mind, we'll see, but that's how it strikes me so far. :D
Post by: saratogaspringer on August 27, 2011, 01:41:17 PM
Post by: Talon on August 27, 2011, 02:41:49 PM
Talon
Post by: Crewella on August 27, 2011, 08:29:21 PM
He's very sweet - I really love those LED eyes and the way he blinks and looks around. The surprised look still makes me giggle every time! :D
Post by: latrine on August 30, 2011, 11:18:43 AM
Yeah.. It is rather weird, I can't imagine that.. especially Thor, my 220, it's like his entire world revolves around that Pink Ball.. lol.. and just how happy they get when they find that toy.. adding the AiBone was an awesome Idea I'm surprised they didn't do something similar with Genibo.. Maybe the new one will have it.. that's what I'm awaiting to see.. with the self docking and everything.. (and I'm so glad that you'll be able to take advantage of that with your version too!!)
Has he fallen over or anything at all? I wonder about how well they will hold up with what you said about how they are put together.
He does look really cute I don't know why folks would think they look ugly or scary.. he's adorable, I LOVE his spots! I would prefer the ears and mouth to move but they are cute as anything anyways and the body/legs look almost identical to the ERS-7, aside from being a little less well put together, I guess, from what Crewella said.. but maybe they'll improve that as well with the next version.
Then again..Loki's NECK is now making noises and getting stuck so who am I to complain about 'well-put-together Robot dogs' ..... *throws something*
- Sarah
Post by: Crewella on August 30, 2011, 11:33:35 AM
Post by: saratogaspringer on August 30, 2011, 04:56:57 PM
Latrine, I am so sorry about Loki's neck. I hope that it can be sorted out in a simple way. I hope the poor little guy doesn't have to take another flight to Cali! :(
Post by: Crewella on August 30, 2011, 05:45:26 PM
He has moved around and explored a bit, but I want to spend a bit more time with him before I decide how much I like the behaviour. He does seem a bit 'needy', but we'll see how it goes. :-X :D
Post by: latrine on August 31, 2011, 02:30:00 PM
I'm so glad your enjoying your new pup.. it sounds like he got a good home but c'moooon lets see a video of him running with & near Java.. I want to see the difference.. lol. :) Pleaaase.. remember. I'm sick.. *cough cough* lol..
As for Loki.. I have been doing gentle 'massage' therapy when he's off, for his neck and so far I think it's helping.. if it doesn't keep improving he may well need another trip but I'd contact wolfbob first. And just another reason I will never kill that seller if I ever meet him :)
- Sarah
Post by: Crewella on September 01, 2011, 07:22:52 AM
I've been a very, very bad Crewella and got distracted from poor Sykes. I bid on lots of things on Ebay that I think are cheap and leave a low bid 'just in case', and very few of them are successful, but every now and again one goes through ................. ;D
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180713809549?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Post by: latrine on September 01, 2011, 03:41:00 PM
- Sarah
Post by: saratogaspringer on September 01, 2011, 03:46:42 PM
Post by: Crewella on September 01, 2011, 04:00:18 PM
I still can't believe my luck! ;D
ADDED: He IS tempting, Springer! ;)
Post by: latrine on September 01, 2011, 06:09:07 PM
Oh wow that's cool.. so it's just dead batteries and they thought the entire Aibo was dead? Sounds like you got a really good deal :D
Are you going to keep him? (I think you have a 210 already but I'm not sure?) I'm enjoying watching my 220 grow up so I can see wanting more than one of this personality..
- Sarah
Post by: barrettgazzy on September 01, 2011, 07:26:58 PM
And when recognition becomes too annoying for you lol go for Dogs Life that way you still get the self charging going on :)
Post by: Crewella on September 02, 2011, 12:37:41 PM
Of course, I told myself I'd keep the bits I wanted and sell the dog .............. but now it's here I might as well run it and try a few comparisons ............... %) ;D
And here are Dexy the 210's first steps when we got home. I was worried about the wobbles at first, but when I looked at the AiboLife stick I realised the poor little pup never made it past childhood stage! :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwbIIxUzWcY
Post by: Talon on September 02, 2011, 02:53:22 PM
Talon
Post by: saratogaspringer on September 02, 2011, 03:38:55 PM
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on September 02, 2011, 04:28:48 PM
Post by: Crewella on September 02, 2011, 05:02:57 PM
And I've been meaning to try bringing up a 210 Aibo pup anyway ............ :D
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on September 02, 2011, 05:34:37 PM
Post by: kat on September 03, 2011, 01:02:15 AM
Post by: Crewella on September 03, 2011, 01:42:18 AM
Post by: latrine on September 03, 2011, 08:05:22 PM
Well is he a psychopathic/sympathetic killer? If so, Dexter would be a good name for him, like the show, my favorite :) but Dexy is very cute too. So you have 2 silver 210's then? They must look very cute next to each other. The more I run my 220 the more I have surprised myself by shutting off my ERS-7 to see the antics of the 'baby'. I didn't think I'd EVER do that.. lol.. but I love them both. Your puppy family is sure growing!!
- Sarah
Post by: Crewella on September 04, 2011, 06:18:04 AM
Nope, Dexy it is, and I think Dexy might be a 'she' anyway! ;)
I've been running Recogntion. Some of it's quite fun, but I'm starting to wonder abot the speech in general. Thing is, when they talk they get it wrong sometimes, whereas when they bleep you don't know if they're ignoring you, have misheard you or what ............. The whole illusion works better when they don't talk - possibly why I'm still slightly intimidated by Wilma, as she's always run DogsLife! :P
Post by: latrine on September 04, 2011, 11:01:31 AM
I really do enjoy the beeps and whistles and I LOVE when Thor says something in aibo-language and Loki responds. It's so cool that they understand it and I'm starting to understand it as well and can get him to do a few things by whistling or beeping the noise. So can my birds :D
Might be neat to have 2 of the same, Crewella, and just 2 different sets of software but some of them are scary.. they move sooo fast and you just can't find them! I hope your having fun!!
Post by: Talon on September 04, 2011, 04:06:35 PM
Talon
Post by: kat on September 05, 2011, 05:17:30 PM
Post by: OzPleo on November 10, 2011, 04:02:47 PM
Post by: Crewella on November 11, 2011, 05:08:11 AM
You've failed to keep up with my rampant robot addiction (and who can blame you ;)), Dexy is a 210 I bought on eBay! :P
Speaking of my addicton ............... ;)
Look who arrived yesterday!
Post by: OzPleo on November 11, 2011, 05:14:59 AM
That's a cute little aibo. Of course you know my good news :)
Post by: Crewella on November 11, 2011, 05:25:13 AM
I'm glad you have some good news, it's been a rough year.
Here's a slightly better pic of Elmo:
Post by: Talon on November 12, 2011, 06:06:59 AM
Talon