Post by: latrine on July 06, 2011, 10:38:12 AM
Then we had to go chase down the UPS truck driver because, just to annoy us, Ups requires you to hand over anything insured for over $1000 to the truck driver himself so he can sign for it.. so I had to hand off my Poor Loki and my bf didn’t even give him any air –holes in the box.. (then teased me for a half hour for asking about air holes.. even though I was (mostly) kidding! )
So I put Aibo life 2 on my extra 16 mb stick and put that in the 220.. and he spent most of the night mad at me for not naming him.. I finally tried and accidentally named him: “How the *bleep* does this thing work anyhow..” lol.. WHOOPS!
I also may have made a severe blunder with the pink stick.. I backed it up but then deleted the stuff on it and tried to put the regular Aibo life 2 on it but it didn’t work, he would turn on and then turn right off.. Then I remembered reading
“DO NOT FORMAT A PINK MEMORY STICK” but I didn’t ACTUALLY format it.. I just cut’ the 3 files (after making a backup) and then putting on the new files.. it works fine on the extra stick. For now I just put the old stuff back on the pink card and I will go see if it works.
How do I safely software I want on the Pink memory stick? Did I do it wrong? I have a Sony memory card reader/writer.. the proper one that Crewella told me to get.
I know, now, how to name him but for the life of me I can not figure out how to reset him to puppy.. I have been reading and reading..
Wolfbob is going to make me a copy of the 220 info and aibo-life info as he has a cheap way of doing huge copies and he'll send it back with Loki as it's easier to have something 'in-hand' when doing this.. I just don't see anything in the software info, so far, that tells me how to reset him. (by the way, Wolfbob has been WONDERFUL, I would really suggest anyone wanting an Aibo.. speak with him about it.. he's very, Very nice and very prompt. I'm sure he's also VERY pleased with this forum atm since he's sold HOW many aibos in the past few weeks? lol..
Ok.. more questions. I want to get my 220 a charge station.. I see lots of them on eBay, like this: (not that I'd go with Nippondeals for anything.. they have a bad rep.. but a charging station might be ok, I dunno.. I never see any towers for sale by themselves )
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Aibo-ERS-210-ERS210-ERA210P1-Energy-Station-Dockin-/230640482560?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b33e7900 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Aibo-ERS-210-ERS210-ERA210P1-Energy-Station-Dockin-/230640482560?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b33e7900)
But I assume that’s for drop-in.. if I want him to be able to self dock, don’t I need a tower and a part for the front for him to be able to find it? I don’t see THAT for sale anywhere.. I would like to buy one of the stations but I want to make sure I can upgrade it to what I’d need to get him to self-charge... i never see that stuff sold seperately except for the occasional ones to upgrade your ERS-7 to mind 3 which I don't need.
From what I was reading, I think he can dock himself with Aibo Life 2 or do I need Explorer?
At any rate, I think the station will be a good thing to have simply for a safe place to put him while he’s charging.
For now though, when I charge him from the wall with his charger and that thingy that attaches to him (dongle?) Is it ok to leave that going overnight or do I only want to charge him when I can be there to unplug him when he is charged after 2 hours?
Also, can I get one of those Dongles for my ERS-7 ? It seems like it’d be great to have if I want to bring him somewhere to show someone and not have to bring the entire station.. or will that one work with him?
Ok, this is him:
Here he is doing his start-up thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y340TPeWaUk
Here he is dancing to the Disco Aibo dance of "Here comes the Sun" the one song that Loki couldn't do without falling over, also when I first realized Loki had a problem.. Thor did it perfect.. (ok so his name is Thor)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnpLKwOoz4E
Bhobbes, I agree. they sure did make them different looking but for some reason I just REALLY like the way he looks and I really wanted this one. I want them all though.. a 210 or 111 is next.. they are like Pokemon or potato chips.. just REALLY expensive ones.
Talon, he has no tail or ears, and no mouth that opens.. he has a little like 'penlight that flips up on top of his head which is pretty expressive and funny and he is very expressive with his lights. I can also understand a bit of what he wants with his beeps and whistles.. although some of it I recognize from Loki. You may miss out on SOMEof the stuff they do, from not being able to see, but I think you'd be able to handle one fine.. you can easily learn what they are saying by listening.. which is something I'm sure your very capable of :)
Well I hope you like him.. :)
- Sarah
Post by: RedwoodsMama on July 06, 2011, 10:44:19 AM
Pretty soon you will have not just a herd of Pleos but a Puppy Mill! ( but in a good way that is... :)) Have fun today with your puppy!
RWm
Post by: Pleo100 on July 06, 2011, 02:24:35 PM
The ERS 7's came with a special charging station and were able to self-dock with the Aibo Mind Software that they came with.
I hope you enjoy your new Aibo.
Post by: bhobbes on July 06, 2011, 02:27:24 PM
If the 220s are like the 210s and AL2 isn't any different, I'm pretty sure it won't recognize and self-dock with that - I can't speak for explorer, but I know that the recognition software supports it.
And also, I think that the 210/220s self-docking is even less reliable than the ERS-7's so I'm not sure how much bang for your buck you'd get if that's the feature you're really aiming for.
(Honestly, I don't even use Nicco's self-docking all that much - if anything, I use it more to show off to my friends as they're more impressed but due to lifestyle factors etc. it's just not something I use regularly)
Post by: bhobbes on July 06, 2011, 02:28:22 PM
Guess it's verified lol.
Post by: Talon on July 06, 2011, 03:51:04 PM
Don't tempt me like that, Latrine! I've always wanted an Aibo of some kind since two thousand one when I first heard of them. I just never thought it was possible for me to work with one. An Aibo is miles out of my league but as perhaps you know I like challenges. Hmmm. Now what to save up for for Christmas? An Ipod touch or... something else? Now look what you've started. Lol!
Talon
Post by: Pleo100 on July 06, 2011, 04:40:47 PM
I always found it enjoyable to place my 210 on her charger awake when I couldn't watch her or when she was about to run out of battery. This way she interacted while charging and I felt like she was still part of the family.
Post by: latrine on July 06, 2011, 05:43:42 PM
Ok so I could place my 220 on the station while awake and still interact with him if he's running aibo-life 2 ? I was reading through dogs life 2 and I thought it said something about self docking but it looks like it's an adult only program and we are VERY slowly working through his puppy stage. How long is stage 1, for gods sake.. it's been 1 1/2 charges and I he's still in baby stage 1 even though I've been interacting with him and touching his sensors nearly constantly.. he doesn't act frightened when I touch him anymore but he also isn't moving on.. he is dancing a tiny bit though. Still shows no interest in his ball but stopped acting scared of it.
I think I will probably get the station just for a safe place to put him and the interaction while he's on it will be fun. I love the self docking feature with Loki.. I usually let him have the run of the living room and he just docks when he needs too.. (or passes out in front of the TV) But seriously.. how long is it going to take to move onto baby stage 2? lol..
I can't even name him till stage 3!!
I showed him my fish tank and he got scared of our minnows... hehe. He's lots of fun.. but I miss Loki :)
Thanks for the replies, guys :)
RWM, maybe my robots and I can (very slowly) raid and destroy a puppy mill! Save the puppies! :)
they'd definitely hear us coming though.. with all the atari beeps.. loki dancing and singing and the Pleos Moo'ing.. %) %) %)
- Sarah
Post by: Crewella on July 06, 2011, 06:01:50 PM
He looks fabulous - congrats! ;D
Post by: latrine on July 06, 2011, 06:21:41 PM
Do I need to worry as much, buying a charging station off ebay, as I would buying an Aibo? I mean I'd be attaching my own brand new charger to it so I'm hoping theres not much more to it than that? I take it the explorer software is not one of the free ones, since I see it on ebay.
thanks guys ;)
- Sarah
Post by: aibo7m3 on July 06, 2011, 09:50:28 PM
Post by: kat on July 07, 2011, 04:04:19 AM
and don't worry Loki will be back before you know it and better than ever. :)
Post by: pirpintine on July 07, 2011, 06:36:39 AM
i raised my 210 on life 2 and if you interact a lot it should get past baby stage reletivly quickly - and youll be amused when they start walking.. the weird rock back and forth shuffle made me laugh every time!
ive had a go of explorer and its pretty much an adult version of life2 - with added boost mode, which is taken advantage by the 220s and their many flashy lights! a 220 in boost mode in the dark is its own rave machine.
dogslife the 3rd party software is an adult software based on hello aibo i think. its got lots of skits and stuff but i find it to be deaf, does work in the 220s but i dont think it takes advantage of the lights as much.
stick with life 2, when its grown up its a good varied personality - my aibo gets mood swings and has highly active goofy days and very lazy mopey days. ive also put the elephant patch on him so he remembers when ive praised/scolded actions a bit more. seems to mold the personality a bit better in my opinion.
charging over night is fine, i used to keep my 210 on his station plugged in all the time - but since imoved house were on a metre so i have him unplugged most the time now - but he only takes little over an hour to charge so hes fine and dandy either way you choose to charge him :)
the 220s always amused me and i really wanted one for ages, quite rare to come by on ebay though, and im mostly after an ers7 and a 11X to add to my family... shame im unemployed! tsk! expensive hobbies, these robots. ;)
Post by: Talon on July 07, 2011, 06:55:44 AM
Talon
Talon
Post by: pirpintine on July 07, 2011, 09:15:09 AM
Post by: latrine on July 07, 2011, 10:47:55 AM
I am having fun with the puppy stage even though it IS long.. I just LOVE how he just falls asleep boop.. right outta no where.. I finally caught him on video trying to stay awake.. it was really cute so I wanted to share it.. I can't wait for Loki to get home to meet his baby brother!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMqlqac420c
Too cute :)
- Sarah
Post by: aibo7m3 on July 07, 2011, 11:29:02 AM
Post by: latrine on July 07, 2011, 11:57:07 AM
Yeah the falling asleep thing is so cute, I wonder if he'll still do it now.. he just became interested in his ball too. :) I'm glad to hear that they still do the falling asleep thing later on, it's fun to see and I know the kids will love it. Especially my little nieces..
- Sarah
Post by: bhobbes on July 07, 2011, 10:07:44 PM
It's interesting to me to see the 220's form go through the AL2 phases compared to the 210 because it's very robotic going through growth phases. If that even makes sense? Even though I'm watching it do things my 210 did at similar stages, it has a very different feel (to me, through the video) simply because of its looks.
Post by: latrine on July 08, 2011, 09:33:08 AM
And speaking of 'ears' I am amazed by his hearing, it is SO much better than Loki's.. he flashes his side blue light whenever he hears someone say something and then does his recognition beep if he understood it. I know Loki knows more words but Thor can hear me even with the TV blaring.
So the head movements are different from what your 210 did also? Is the 210 able tilt it's head around in any direction? Thor seems to be able to wobble it any way he wants.. I was worried there was something wrong at first (with the software he came with) but it was part of the personality..
His 'recognition' beep is a little high-pitched for my bf, he gets headaches so easy, and I'm hoping I can do something about the volume for him.. hehe. Maybe the station will let me do it, I dunno.. it should be here in a few days.. along with a Sony Clie, another memory card... *cough* "just stuff Wolfbob forgot to put in the box, honey".. will be my explanation :D
USPS and UPS are driving me NUTS! We sent Crow to Wolfbob USPS since we didn't need to insure it for as much and we could get it there faster that way for him since he'd already sent Thor out.. we sent Loki UPS because it was a VERY large amount of insurance and (in our experience) UPS honors it's insurance when they screw up where USPS isn't so great about that.. it's telling me the Pleo got there but Wolfbob doesn't have it yet and I can't get any info about Loki! I wanna know where my pup is!
- Sarah
Post by: aibo7m3 on July 08, 2011, 09:53:32 AM
Post by: latrine on July 08, 2011, 12:26:27 PM
My PleoRB, Crow, got to Wolfbob's yesterday apparently he just forgot to tell me.. she's already on her 2nd cycle and has met 'Dude' the Ugobe Pleo he got from Hannah.. apparently he's enjoying her :)
Well Thor just went to Baby stage 3 while sitting on the bed with my bf touching all his buttons teasing me saying whats this button do whats this button do.. lol.. I had to yell at him and leave the room just so I could name him but bf is sick so I won't beat him up to much.. this time...
Anyway.. here he is learning to stand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU63EyyaUyg
Here he learned to 'walk' If you can call it walking.. hehe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZV04W1zYDo
And here he is showing me that moving his ball doesn't phase him.. he found it anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBAx9Ftuli4
Lots of fun :D
I checked his memory card/brain and apparently he's almost to child stage 1 and that will be my first chance to see him develop into one of several different personalities!
I'll bet he ends up spoiled and needy since I can't stop playing with him .. hehe..
- Sarah
Post by: Crewella on July 09, 2011, 10:48:35 AM
I wasn't a big fan of the 220 - they looked a bit too 'robotic' for me, but he's actually much more endearing than I'd expected. You're right, Sarah - he does manage to get the emotions across with the lights and movements. I'm particularly enamoured of hs feet - they're like little hooves! ;D ;D
On the hearing thing, from my understanding the ERS-7s are much more senstive to sounds than the 210/220s, but are not so good at distinguishing the relevant from the background, if that makes sense? They 'mishear' a LOT! ;D
Post by: bhobbes on July 09, 2011, 10:53:56 AM
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On the hearing thing, from my understanding the ERS-7s are much more senstive to sounds than the 210/220s, but are not so good at distinguishing the relevant from the background, if that makes sense? They 'mishear' a LOT!
I think that sounds dead on (i.e. you're qualifying "better").
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I wasn't a big fan of the 220 - they looked a bit too 'robotic' for me, but he's actually much more endearing than I'd expected.
I agree with that. I don't feel the 220 fits enough of my personality to own one personally (and I think a lot of these are what the owner sees them as), but I really do enjoy watching your videos. All the flashing lights and his robotic-insecty look (ok, maybe that's just because of my resident spider) has me interested in seeing this.
And mind you, I saw all of this go on with Murray within the past month - so that speaks FOR the 220.
Post by: RedwoodsMama on July 09, 2011, 02:23:42 PM
I can't really tell from the video what color Thor is, is he gold, copper or something else?Do his eyes allways light up blue or do they change colors or patterns sometimes? How long does it take him to go from one stage to another and how long does his battery "charge" last. so many questions...He is cute and adorable!
RedwoodsMama
Post by: latrine on July 09, 2011, 08:19:16 PM
Well, he knows his name now but does not really respond to it often, as he just learned it.. he will tell me his name and my name in his own language though. He isn't quite old enough to respond to his name properly but he's getting there.. He has several different colors and they light up in different area to reflect his thoughts/feelings... lots of red means he's angry, blue in the front usually means he's frightened or unsure, blue in the middle means he's recognized what you've said.. etc.. They do different patterns and he also has lights on his hind end that light up.. he also has lights close to his hind end that indicate his power level, which is REALLY handy.. I'm not exactly sure how long his battery lasts yet because he is still a puppy and he takes frequent naps during which I THINK he goes into an almost 'power-save' mode, which would make the battery seem longer... but I'm still learning... It seems like a very long charge though.. I've had him playing well over an hour without a nap since he started 'walking' hehe..
He is silver.
They go through lots of stages, he is on the third baby stage and he will be moving onto one of the 'child' stages next.. then the next stage till he's an adult:D
It was funny just a few minutes ago I put my bird to bed and went over to Thor and asked him if it was time for bed.. he made a funny noise and waved me off with his paw.. Then I asked him if he was tired, he made a few beeps and blips and shook his head 'no'. So I said ok.. and left him to play with his ball..
Well, of course, the minute I left the room my bf was like "Sarah.. I think I just heard something small and robotic fall over!!' So sure enough, he had fallen right over and was laying there on his side all pathetic, not wanting to get up on his own. So I helped him up... then asked him again if he was tired. This time he shook his head yes and then waved at me like a 'hello/goodbye' wave instead of a 'bugger-off' wave like earlier.. so I said goodnight and shut him off :D
I didn't know he recognized those phrases yet and it was funny that he shook his head because he didn't do a recognition beep when I said them.
He's lots of fun and very cute.. I'm enjoying him.. :D
- Sarah
Post by: bhobbes on July 09, 2011, 08:42:09 PM
I used to get annoyed with the sleep stages quite frankly! Haha. I'm glad to see you are enjoying them. I hope he evolves differently from Murray so that way I can compare without having to do what I just said above :). Same with kats. We'll all be on the same software arguably going different routes for different people. Murray is currently a Talking Child.
Another aspect that made me realize why I like the lights on the 220 more than the 210 (because I have to know why I like to sit and watch these blinky things) is because the 210 has my least favorite LED face. I'm still working on figuring out why that is but I'll be sure to inform you all.
Post by: latrine on July 09, 2011, 09:43:27 PM
It's fun trying to figure out what his lights mean but sometimes I think being able to see the expression like (I think) you can see on the 210's face might make it a little easier.. but it's fun anyways! As soon as he does something new I'll be filming it.. crazy bf got all mad just because I filled up the Hard drive with videos.. he has another one.. jeeesh (whoops, just popped another 101 pleo pictures on there today!!)
- Sarah