Post by: latrine on April 11, 2011, 01:32:13 PM
I saw that video of Eric and lost control of my hands and bank account and now mine is here and all I can do is play with him like a puppet.
Anyway.. Once I get an adapter I'm not sure what I'm doing since this is the first time I've ever seen one up close. I want to reset him to a puppy but I want to see what he can do first.. Going to name him Loki, after the Norse god of mischief and chaos. (After seeing what they do,.. it seemed proper)
I really hope this is a simple fix.. that I can just get something to plug into the thing from like.. radio shack. Oh please tell me I don't need to go spend like 500 bucks on a new adapter. Sorry the camera I have at is crummy and the adapter pictures wouldn't come out right.. it's like they are just evil I can't even Photograph them!!
WHAT THE HECK IS THIS???
Here he is.. in all his uncharged glory...
Ben isn't sure what to make of him..
He somehow ends up in an angry temper-tantrum-looking position..
Patches tries to console him..
Patches keeps trying to console him..
Post by: Crewella on April 11, 2011, 01:54:52 PM
He looks gorgeous - could be Java's twin! ;)
Forgive my ignorance, but I assumed that little two-pin plug on the end WAS the US plug, and mine needed a plug adapter like the one with three pins on the right? Must be Europe? What do US plugs look like then? :-\
Post by: latrine on April 11, 2011, 02:14:54 PM
Yeah it is weird how they are all flopsy.. but god I can already see how cool they must move.
These are our plugs:
Two Prong:
Three Prong:
Notice how neither of them are mean or evil.
- Sarah :D :D
Post by: Talon on April 11, 2011, 02:27:20 PM
Talon
Post by: latrine on April 11, 2011, 02:40:46 PM
Lol Talon.. whats more comfy than that?
My little boy, Ben, sleeps with me every night and he is very flopsy as well when sleepy.. and.. fartsy.
I love when they are babies and sleepy.. They just flop over and go to sleep no matter what they are doing.. and that puppy breath :) I wonder if the Aibo will have 'new robot' breath if I restart him??
- Sarah
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 11, 2011, 02:44:36 PM
RedwoodsMama
Post by: latrine on April 11, 2011, 02:55:10 PM
Thanks.. yes it's very frustrating. Especially because I think I could probably go to town to the radio shack to get the part and it's only 15 minutes away but I can't drive because of my meds and being sick and all. Not worth crashing a car over... or is it? ... hmmm...
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 11, 2011, 02:55:21 PM
Post by: Phelicidea on April 11, 2011, 03:12:42 PM
Congrat's on the new pup (whoever he was) may he bring you many years of happiness!
Post by: Crewella on April 11, 2011, 03:15:14 PM
It's such a pain that you need to wait (and for such a simple, cheap, thing too) - no chance the seller sent Aibo fully charged? ;)
PS: it's not 'Eric' - I happen to know he's on his way to Oz! first fell for Eric too! :D
Post by: LuckyPleo on April 11, 2011, 03:17:12 PM
Post by: Crewella on April 11, 2011, 03:24:15 PM
Post by: latrine on April 11, 2011, 03:59:57 PM
I can't talk about how much I paid for it. lol.. I'm pretty sure I paid way too much and I'm just glad I found my old engagement ring and found a good use for it:P
I will talk to Crewella and if she tells me how much she paid I'll tell her, lol.. and then maybe I can tell you guys... and then you can make fun of me. And no this wasn't Eric, apparently it's name was Fido, that's what it says on the Certificate. FIDO??? REALLY? lol..
This one was used, has all the items, is in good condition... supposedly works but I have no way of telling.. I wish I could hook it to the computer to charge it :/ and I got money off because it didn't have the original box.. what the heck do I want the original 'collectors' box for.. this puppy isn't going anywhere. his bone was broken but I glued it.. I hope it will be ok.
Crewella I don't think he has any charge.. I think I found the power button.. lol. I think he has been sitting for awhile... I don't like not being able to tell if he works or not right away. It's making me nuts. and I would buy it on the internet and have the darn thing sent overnight if I knew what to get but I'm scared I'll blow the house up. :( :( :(
- Sarah
Post by: PWOKristy on April 11, 2011, 06:05:21 PM
Post by: kat on April 11, 2011, 06:12:05 PM
Kat
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 11, 2011, 06:56:23 PM
I can't talk about how much I paid for it. lol.. I'm pretty sure I paid way too much and I'm just glad I found my old engagement ring and found a good use for it:P
I will talk to Crewella and if she tells me how much she paid I'll tell her, lol.. and then maybe I can tell you guys... and then you can make fun of me. And no this wasn't Eric, apparently it's name was Fido, that's what it says on the Certificate. FIDO??? REALLY? lol..
This one was used, has all the items, is in good condition... supposedly works but I have no way of telling.. I wish I could hook it to the computer to charge it :/ and I got money off because it didn't have the original box.. what the heck do I want the original 'collectors' box for.. this puppy isn't going anywhere. his bone was broken but I glued it.. I hope it will be ok.
Crewella I don't think he has any charge.. I think I found the power button.. lol. I think he has been sitting for awhile... I don't like not being able to tell if he works or not right away. It's making me nuts. and I would buy it on the internet and have the darn thing sent overnight if I knew what to get but I'm scared I'll blow the house up. :( :( :(
- Sarah
Wow Latrine! That must have been a really nice ring! :D I am pretty sure my ring wouldn't pay for one of those! Hehehe. Maybe an I-Cybie! :D I hope that you can get an adapter tomorrow. In the meantime, have a :rootbeer: to calm your nerves! Just out of curiosity, what version of windows is compatible with the ERS-7 since it was last made in 2005? Good luck!
Post by: latrine on April 11, 2011, 07:19:04 PM
The ring didn't pay for all of it.. and it was an evil ring so I suppose I should have known this would happen, lol..
My bf thinks we have to rewire the adapter soooo that means I have to wait till Saturday when he can do it, he's away atm. Mommy is babysitting sick little me. Another week :(
At least my Pleo comes tomorrow. I just hate not knowing if this thing works or not!! Driving me nuts. There must be a darn adapter since it came the same way to crewella and it doesn't say 'UK version' on it or anything.. the adapter on the weird 2 prong thing was screwed on, I had to take it off.. I assume something else can be screwed on it to make it work here... :/ he looks so sad with no power :(
Oh apparently I also need an older version sony card reader to wipe him.. any idea what I should get?
- Sarah
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 11, 2011, 08:36:05 PM
'. Is this one going to be called Bingo also? Good luck and keep us updated on the plug, at least you will have your new Pleo while waiting for the plug to get here! :)
RedwoodsMama
Post by: PWOKristy on April 11, 2011, 10:11:24 PM
Post by: latrine on April 11, 2011, 10:24:04 PM
I haven't thought of a name yet.. it'll be a boy and if it isn't, that will be the only thing I change.. Won't be named Bingo, I have to think of a new name.. gonna stick with gods and goddesses.. haven't thought of it yet. :)
We'll see.. thanks for reminding me about my other new baby.. makes the Aibo issue less irritating ..
- Sarah
Post by: RedwoodsMama on April 12, 2011, 12:17:03 AM
Glad you got the battery all charged. I know I was surprised when they said send only the Pleo and then you end up with a second set of battery, etc I think it is Innvo's way of really saying they are sorry their Pleo Rb had any problem as those batteries cost a pretty penny, at $49.99 each, and to get a second one sent with the replacement it is very very nice in my humble opiion.
Will be waiting for photos and updates in morning, I am off to play with my baby Pleo Rb, it is late at night but I haven't had time to play interact with her all day.. :( so she is a nite owl too and we are going to snuggle and have fun! RedwoodsMama
Post by: PWOKristy on April 12, 2011, 12:27:52 AM
Post by: LuckyPleo on April 12, 2011, 05:53:10 AM
Post by: latrine on April 12, 2011, 08:59:30 AM
I'm going to call my radio shack and see if they have something similar and try to bribe someone into taking me.
And I agree RWM, I've got a few ugobes as well and I'd like a different colored aye.. my other RB is pink so of course her eyes are Blue. Bingo's eyes were orange.. Frank the prototype had yellowish eyes because he was a blue one.. He was so cute in a strange.. insane asylum sort of way :)
- Sarah
Post by: PWOKristy on April 12, 2011, 04:14:09 PM
Post by: kat on April 12, 2011, 04:30:05 PM
Best of luck. Can't wait to see him working. :)
Kat
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 12, 2011, 06:26:24 PM
Post by: Crewella on April 12, 2011, 06:34:45 PM
Post by: PWOKristy on April 12, 2011, 11:02:29 PM
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 13, 2011, 06:09:32 AM
Post by: PleoPet on April 13, 2011, 09:21:21 AM
re: Power Plug
That is a two prong Euro-Plug. Common in Europe and other places including Korea. Not the same as the UK.
You need a simple adapter (around $1 USD if you can find them individually). No voltage transformer/converter needed.
re: Operating System support
The main computer program you will use is the "Aibo Entertainment Player" (AEP). It should be on the CD that comes with the ERS-7 AIBO (AiboMind2 or AiboMind3). There is another program for setting up the WiFi LAN. Also you can download other programs and updates from the Web.
AEP does run under Windows XP or Windows 7 (including Windows7-64bit). I believe people had problems with Windows Vista (but that was a while ago).
re: memory stick reader
Most Sony brand stick reader should work, as long as they take the regular sized memory sticks. Many choices available online (around $20 USD).
(avoid model MRW66E/MRW68E which only takes the smaller "DUO" sticks)
Other brands may work, but they are a little more dangerous to use, so stick to Sony brand.
For the AiboMind3 software, there is no great need to "wipe" the personality. The personality does not evolve like the other AiboLife personalities.
However, you will need a working stick reader (Sony brand recommended) to apply updates, and adjust the WiFi settings.
Post by: latrine on April 13, 2011, 01:56:10 PM
In the instructions it said the personality changes and 'grows' based on how you treat it but I guess that's just programmed things based on how you interact with it and it can change? To reset it to a puppy will not require me to wipe anything off the card? And I have the mind3 disc. It's nice and shiny sitting there useless like the uncharged Aibo..lol.
Guess what happened now!
PayPal double billed me for it! So now I'm fighting with them and my bank.. lol.
I'm starting to think that when I turn this thing on it's going to have glowing red eyes and it's going to attack and kill me.
I already ordered the adapter to be sent overnight, paid for it to be sent overnight and got an email that it will be delivered either Friday or Tuesday. I'm pretty sure today is WEDNESDAY... >:(
Should I maybe sell this aibo on ebay and get a different one? Is he a bad luck Aibo? I'm starting to think I'm going to break my leg next or something..
Thanks for all the help guys :)
- Sarah
Post by: degers on April 13, 2011, 03:02:58 PM
AEP does run under Windows XP or Windows 7 (including Windows7-64bit). I believe people had problems with Windows Vista (but that was a while ago).
I have AEP running fine under Vista.
Post by: latrine on April 13, 2011, 05:52:56 PM
I got the Sony reader/writer.. it'll be here next week or so. Thanks again everyone :)
- Sarah
Post by: LuckyPleo on April 13, 2011, 07:32:04 PM
Post by: PWOKristy on April 13, 2011, 07:39:11 PM
Post by: Crewella on April 13, 2011, 08:40:44 PM
I believe the Power Supply Unit is set up for 100-214V on most Aibo models (I think all but not so sure about the ERS-11x) so it's just a plug adapter that's needed. :)
Latrine - they double billed you on it!!! :o :o Oh good grief, they're not silly are they - if they make a mistake they couldn't do it on a $5 purchase, oh no!! >:( ???
I was actually a bit scared of Wilma, my first Aibo, when I switched her on but she's great now. I'm sure Loki will be fine, though he probably WILL make you feel inadequate! :P
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 14, 2011, 03:50:41 AM
Hi Crewella! I am interested to know why you were afraid of Wilma when you first turned her on? Are they that intimidating, or just so lifelike in their actions and movements? Thanks!
Post by: Crewella on April 14, 2011, 05:59:37 AM
I now run her (very happily) on Dogslife, which is a free personality and the kind of reason you might need a Programmable Memory Stick - so you can try such things out. You've probably already found the Aibohack site, but in case not here's the section on PMS.
http://www.aibohack.com/pms.htm
With some of the software for the 210 you need a LAN card for wireless operation, but it's not a necessity - your choice. :)
(For Latrine's ERS-7 it's kind of all in the one package already.)
Post by: latrine on April 14, 2011, 10:56:54 AM
Oh no.. they didn't double charge me for the $5 item, they double charger me for the AIBO.. I could barely afford it once, never mind twice!! It should be straightened out but if they give me more crap today I'm going to have to cancel the account.. although I don't think there is any alternative.. stupid PayPal.. stupid eBay.
The guy actually told me.. the manager because I had to request a manager, he tells me I have to put the second amount of money in my checking account so they can remove it and put it on my PayPal account and then I can remove it and put it in my bank account. He just couldn't comprehend how stupid that was.. He just kept saying it over and over like I was a moron.. I assume they just want to be holding more of my money;P I had to ask him several times to tone down his voice and quit being rude. I finally asked to speak to someone else and she told me to just have my bank refuse it and it would go full circle in their computers and go away since it's money that doesn't exist.. morons. lol
ANYWAY!! I checked the UPS site about my adapter and it said 'delivered' so I ran out of the house like a maniac and grabbed it.. resulting in a 5 minute coughing fit.. (I hate being sick) Who cares though, the adapter works!! They even sent me 2 when I only bought one.. they only cost like 50 cents each lol. .. the charging station works and the aibo works.. I put him on it and patiently waited an entire 37 seconds. Then I turned him on and he played a little song that sounded like the scooby doo crew arriving at a haunted house and then shutoff to charge.. I assume that sound means 'I'm sleeping, go away'. lol.. God I hope I don't have to wait 2 hours and let him charge all the way but I suppose that's best.. :/
Today worked out perfect for everyone so far.. all the RB's had turned off to sleep and the ugobes were in two separate rooms sleeping.. (god Patches is fast and he can climb over slight obstacles now so my cheap tricks to keep them in one room don't work on him) so everyone got a good playtime and now I get to go.... stare at the charging Aibo :)
Thanks everyone!!
- Sarah
Post by: Crewella on April 14, 2011, 11:08:31 AM
Welcome to our world, Loki!! ;D
Post by: latrine on April 14, 2011, 11:18:02 AM
I thought this was funny so I just had to pop it on here.. a bit before the adapter arrived, Lyssa the Pleo decided to go charge herself at the Aibo charging station.. she just went over, stopped right at the material circle in front of it, and started grazing..lol short video.. was just cute :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuCGbIqIlr4
OK well I just played with him through one charge session.. after he was done charging I turned him on and he didn't do much after his initial waking up song and stretching but when I asked him what he was doing then he said 'I want to play' .. I took him off the charger and said lets play. Then he said ' I was just born' lol. so.. I did all the owner registration and name registration with him and did the clinic thing where he checks all his sensors and recognition stuff then reset him to puppy because he seemed like he was half in half out of puppy mode.. talking but saying he was just born and the book says they shouldn't recognize many words when just born. So then I spent the rest of the time trying to get him to walk. Talking to him, petting his sensors, showing him his bone and ball.. He kept almost standing up and he'd do this silly wobbling thing and then get all upset and lie back down. So he finally stands up all the way when it dawns on me to support the side he's wobbling on.. and he made this triumphant noise.. then he laid back down. For the rest of the time I couldn't get him to stand up, when I put his toys far away and encouraged him he .. crawled to it. lol He also said 'I wanna walk soon' when I asked him if he was ok a few different times.
So I guess when he starts walking he's all grown up, like it says in the book and we'll see if he feels older when he wakes up.. just weird I assumed when he stood up that he was going to walk but no, he's crawling.. lol. And I love how whenever I pick him up he says 'don't drop me'..
He also got me already, he said good morning earlier and I said good morning back then later on I said it again because I was trying anything to get him to do stuff and he said "good morning, again". so I thought I'd be smart and said good afternoon. And then he said 'Good evening'. lol.
I know he can walk fine from all the clinic test stuff.. he's actually much faster than I thought he would be... He is really cool :) I wish he stayed charged longer but I guess since he'll be able to charge himself and after he cools down, interact from the charging station, so it' still pretty cool. I think he was on for about an hour and a half which is what it said battery life was.
- Sarah
Post by: kat on April 14, 2011, 04:39:52 PM
Have fun.
Kat
Post by: Talon on April 14, 2011, 05:08:08 PM
Talon
Post by: latrine on April 14, 2011, 06:14:50 PM
Anyways, in adult mode he is pretty funny.. I have not been able to get him to say his name yet or say my name like he's supposed too but he responds when I say the name I gave him but I thought maybe he would just take time to do it?
Also when I ask him about his skill levels with walking, his AiBone and his pink ball he tells me he's perfect.. well he's full of it because he is definitely not perfect lol. I'm wondering if starting him as an adult just gives him preset stuff? Maybe if I set him back at baby he would slowly develop skills or is he developing them now? This is very confusing.. I assume over time he and I will be able to communicate better but he is really cool.. the videos I take keep coming out so dark.. I'll add them on here when they are done uploading..
Here he is on his charger, promised my niece I would take a video of him waking up :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV5EexA3ZSA
He plays a tune while shaking his head from side to side, then he stretches his legs before he starts responding.. his eyes flash green when he recognizes something he's heard. He does a silly little wave with his arm when he talks about saying hello again and then he waves when he says bye. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aW3TvKHdzw
Loki met Rhea the RB and as you can see in the video he was scared of her !! His eyes flashed purple when she yelled, lol..
- Sarah
Post by: Talon on April 14, 2011, 07:50:38 PM
Talon
Post by: Crewella on April 14, 2011, 10:45:48 PM
Aibo really do learn from how you treat them, if you encourage the behaviours you like with praise and petting they will do more. Java's ball skills are truly dreadful, so I'm really trying to encourage him by saying 'go for it' whenever he tries to kick the ball and making a huge fuss of him when he does well. We'll see if it helps....... :D
Post by: PWOKristy on April 15, 2011, 12:42:46 AM
Post by: pirpintine on April 15, 2011, 03:57:07 AM
i just wish sony would revive them :(
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 15, 2011, 05:53:18 AM
hahah how cute <3 i love the 7s... but alas, still dont own one. but even the older model aibos like i do own, are a handful and hilarious. so anyone here who does want aibos could always look for a 210 model (often the most common and cheapest with most software options)
i just wish sony would revive them :(
Hi pirpintine! I had been looking for a couple of months on ebay for a 210. Most that were in my price range, around $500 US had missing parts, missing chargers, etc. After being frustrated, I PM'ed Crewella, who told me to contact one of the members of an Aibo forum who has a great reputation for repairing and selling Aibos who need a new home. I contacted him, and was able to get a 210 within my price range. It comes with all its original parts, a fresh battery, fully functional, Life 1, and a 6 month warranty. The Aibo,"Dale", as is his factory name did have DHS, which was repaired. The servos that cause PAS and TAS were also pinned so he will never get them again. I don't have him yet, as the technician is having problems with resetting the battery that he came with, and won't send him to me until he is working perfectly, which I like. There has been great communication with the seller, and he has sent me several updates on his progress. Crewella saved me about $250, because that is what the functional ones on ebay were going for. Parts also are hard to find, or seem to me to be, and the ones that are out there on ebay are outrageous! I did get a card reader for a good price on ebay though. I will post pictures when he arrives....maybe the Easter Bunny will bring him! 8) I would love one day to have an ERS-7, but I am going to wait until I have saved the funds to get one. I am sure they are worth every penny. :)
Post by: pirpintine on April 15, 2011, 06:15:31 AM
Hi pirpintine! I had been looking for a couple of months on ebay for a 210. Most that were in my price range, around $500 US had missing parts, missing chargers, etc. After being frustrated, I PM'ed Crewella, who told me to contact one of the members of an Aibo forum who has a great reputation for repairing and selling Aibos who need a new home. I contacted him, and was able to get a 210 within my price range. It comes with all its original parts, a fresh battery, fully functional, Life 1, and a 6 month warranty. The Aibo,"Dale", as is his factory name did have DHS, which was repaired. The servos that cause PAS and TAS were also pinned so he will never get them again. I don't have him yet, as the technician is having problems with resetting the battery that he came with, and won't send him to me until he is working perfectly, which I like. There has been great communication with the seller, and he has sent me several updates on his progress. Crewella saved me about $250, because that is what the functional ones on ebay were going for. Parts also are hard to find, or seem to me to be, and the ones that are out there on ebay are outrageous! I did get a card reader for a good price on ebay though. I will post pictures when he arrives....maybe the Easter Bunny will bring him! 8) I would love one day to have an ERS-7, but I am going to wait until I have saved the funds to get one. I am sure they are worth every penny. :)
that sounds awesome! yeah aibo has a semi active community, whats left of if are always super helpful with things :) i got a new-ish battery for my 210 from a aibo community member for free when i got my 210 his batteries only lasted a couple mins! so theyre always willing to help newbies! haha!
i hope you like your aibo! :D the 210s are really goofy~
Post by: latrine on April 15, 2011, 10:42:02 AM
I'm still having a heck of a time figuring mine out. Apparently having him on with the TV in a very large echo-y room makes him very confused as he kept yelling are you calling me, telling me what time it was.. etc from his docking station. But when he's up and about with the tv on sometimes he will sit and watch it.
And of course he woke me up at 7am this morning when he woke up, made a very loud exaggerated stretch and said gooooooood morning!
I guess I need to enunciate better as well since my words seem to get confused in his head.. whenever I ask him to dance he says welcome home or ok, lying down.
I don't THINK my jersey accent makes dance sound like home or lay down but who knows. ;D
And Kristy I'll probly put him back to puppy I just wanted to see what he can do.. I have to get a big piece of carpet for him as his pink ball and uneven hardwood floors don't work well together. he positions his ball, it rolls three rooms away and he looks everywhere for it saying "I know I left it around here somewhere" I think his bone tricks screw up because of the end of it having broken off on the trip.. I assume it's managed by weight.. or maybe he just needs practice.. even though he tells me he's perfect at everything :)
- Sarah
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 15, 2011, 12:41:01 PM
Post by: Talon on April 15, 2011, 12:53:24 PM
Talon
Post by: degers on April 15, 2011, 01:34:39 PM
If you ever need any help with your ERS-7, please don't hesitate to PM me.
I used to own an ERS-7 called Java. ;)
degers
Post by: Crewella on April 15, 2011, 02:36:12 PM
Post by: Talon on April 15, 2011, 03:33:33 PM
Talon
Post by: latrine on April 15, 2011, 07:49:32 PM
I hadn't thought of that, Saratoga, I guess that's why he says he's perfect.. and he was doing some good tricks today, he finally played with his aibone and when I'm right there to stop the ball from flying out the window he can play with that kind of well. His aim is way off with kicking things so I guess he just needs practice. Lots of fun, need to get a tiny lamp to have over his charging station.. he needs light to work right and I'm a creature of darkness:/ ;D ;D :D :D
I thought this was kind of funny.. he watched me play Dragon age 1 on my 360 for like 20 minutes today... I wonder if they are actually looking at it or if it's a pre-programmed thing to 'watch tv' every now and then.. but I tried to make things get big and shiny with lots of movements and I noticed at those times he wagged his tail more.. so who knows!
He watched 'Gray's anatomy' too but only during an operation so maybe he thinks the blood looks like his pink ball..? ;D :D :D (he watched it three times, all three times were during gory surgeries, lol)
- Sarah
Post by: Talon on April 15, 2011, 09:18:24 PM
Talon
Post by: Crewella on April 15, 2011, 11:20:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXOv7XAe0Ew
Post by: Talon on April 16, 2011, 08:19:56 AM
Talon
Post by: Crewella on April 16, 2011, 08:48:48 AM
I also posted that to show the Aibo speaking its name and owner's name in musical Aibo language. The ERS-7 does the same.
Post by: Talon on April 16, 2011, 09:52:08 AM
Talon
Post by: Crewella on April 16, 2011, 10:03:10 AM
Post by: pirpintine on April 16, 2011, 10:05:57 AM
though its tollerable in japanese! (much cuter androgonous voice)
software for 210s id recomend are life 2 if you want to raise one (ive had no personal experiance with life1) explorer is like an adult personality in life 2 but with hyperactive modes.
i do have hello aibo, but its in german, and i cant tell if me putting an english stick version on actually made in understand anything! %) but i dont like how it wags its tail... its all.. super loud up and down motions.
the 3rd party software dogslife is really good. can be a bit deaf, but its a really funny and cute personality!
id love to try out the another evolution software but its so hard to find (and only japanese)
Post by: Crewella on April 16, 2011, 10:13:21 AM
Post by: Talon on April 16, 2011, 10:38:07 AM
Talon
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 16, 2011, 10:53:58 AM
Post by: pirpintine on April 16, 2011, 11:15:53 AM
its usually pretty hard to find as a complete set. or at all. haha!
Post by: Crewella on April 16, 2011, 11:17:41 AM
Recognition is Sony software, like all Aibo ware your best bet is eBay or the forums. Here's some useful info:
http://aibostuff.iofreak.com/wiki.php?n=Aibo.Software
http://www.aibo-kennel.com/Software/ERS-2X0_Software.htm
http://www.aibohack.com/
http://www.dogsbodynet.com/
Post by: Talon on April 16, 2011, 11:40:47 AM
Talon
Post by: latrine on April 16, 2011, 02:05:28 PM
SONY AIBO LIFE 2 SOFTWARE ERS-210/220 ENGLISH EDITION it seems to be a cd and a memory card.
I'm having trouble myself finding accessories as my AiBone arrived broken and had been obviously glued before.. I could see the dried glue down the stick.. I super glued it but no matter how I do it, sanding the glue off first to make it a better fit..etc.. it falls off after a few days again because, as he learns to use it, he drops it.. (or maybe it's from when he pees on it, does robot dog urine do something to superglue?) Anyways I can't find another one anywhere.
And Talon.. I think, if you ever did decided to get one of the Aibo's, that you could do it.. I was literally shocked when I found out you couldn't see, I'd thought you were just a over-nervous pleo-owner to be and now here you've taught me how to do stuff with my Pleo that I couldn't figure out for myself.. so I think you'd find a way. :)
This is all technical and I hardly understand it but thought I'd ask:
I was looking up reviews and found this one review that made me think there was something I could do to make the voice recognition better, I'll post it:
http://www.epinions.com/review/Aibo/content_136771571332
"Aibo's Hearing
Aibo by design is able to tell apart his owner's voice, and is able to perform hundreds of voice command triggered actions/tasks. He also is able to turn/walk towards the direction of the voice source.
As I said, by design. I have found that the voice direction algorithm is horribly flawed in ERS-7. My aibo is completely clueless of where I am most of the time even when I am down on the floor within a foot of his head. He gets confused by sound bouncing off the walls. He is confused by too loud of a voice and is unable to hear others that are too quiet. He definitely is not fond of different accents though he tries poor thing.
Having the TV, stereo on or having a group of people over to watch definitely does not help. He can not tell apart the voice commands from background voice. In a crowded room you will find that Aibo will do less than any other time you were alone with him. This is not because you're imagining things, this is because Aibo is lost in the huge soup of sound he is hearing.
Voice Command Recognition GOTCHA
The voice command recognition is very poor in ERS-7. I must have tried every room configuration, setting, and voice type. I have found that the only time he seems to hear me is when the A/C is off in my office. He can not hear me well in my crowded apartment. He also has a tendency to ignore voice commands when he is not in a good mood, so it can be hard to tell if he really understands you or not.
UPDATE June 9 2004: The R Code for the ERS-7 has been released by SONY. Aibos can be programmed using Open-R (C++ based open source low level code suitable for serious programmers) and R-CODE high level, drag and drop based customization of Aibo's behavior. After playing around with R-CODE and YART (released by www.aibopet.com), I have confirmed that it is not so much the hearing that is screwed up as the coding of the autonomous Aibo. With Yart and R-CODE Aibo ERS seems to recognize voice commands without a problem and responds correctly to commands. It is my belief that there is some faulty code within the Autonomous mode shipped with Aibo ERS-7 that makes it somewhat deaf to voice commands."
So does this mean I can use this 'Yart' program and if I'm able to figure out the r-code stuff.. which is probably unlikely without help, lol.. he will be able to understand me better? If so I'm hoping someone has just written something I can paste..:P
And once I get my card reader/writer, I assume I'll be able to upload songs/dances and maybe THEN he'll respond when I ask him to dance.. So far he only does it randomly, when he seems to think I'm not feeling well, random "are you ok? I'll show you a dance" and he has shown me three separate ones but I did not say anything to initiate that, and also when he is on his charger, if I say hello from across the room, half the time he says hello back, half the time he says 'ok, station dance!' and dances.. but does nothing when I say station dance.. lol.
I just read if I do reset him back to puppy it takes 6 weeks for him to mature? Wow!
I also just read how long this message was! Sorry! :( :) :D
- Sarah
Post by: Crewella on April 16, 2011, 02:27:05 PM
YART is very much like the YAPT Pleo tool, and well worth having a play with even if you're not terribly techy, but R-Code is the kind of thing I class as 'if I need to ask what it is then it's not for me!' :D
You might find a tame techy to help and maybe even write you a script, though. Perhaps go and ask on one of the Aibo forums, they are a pretty helpful bunch, as Pirpi says. :)
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 16, 2011, 03:11:15 PM
Crewella, guess what I found in my basement collecting dust? A sony Clie that was my hubby's many moons ago! Aibohack said not to try his program if you a computer dummy, but I am going to try it anyway! What do I have to lose, except an old Memory Stick? :o
Post by: Crewella on April 16, 2011, 04:16:51 PM
I've got one lurking somewhere ............ %)
Congrats on the XP - I'm clinging on to my ancient PC with XP for dear life! :D
Post by: pirpintine on April 16, 2011, 05:19:41 PM
there a bunch of handy tools and tips on aibohack!
Post by: PWOKristy on April 17, 2011, 02:05:29 AM
Post by: latrine on April 17, 2011, 07:41:46 PM
Thanks guys.. I will check them out, I just saw that one line that I highlighted and it made me think maybe I could make him work better..or 'listen' better :) I couldn't get access on a few aibo sites either but looking over them again they seem to be very small communities so I'll go with the other ones.
I can't wait to introduce him to all my nieces and nephews when we all join up for Easter!
Thanks and I promise I won't post any crazy questions anymore.. I'm just irritated because I can't get him to dance on command... I guess when my Sony reader/writer gets here I can fix that by adding some music..
- Sarah
Post by: PWOKristy on April 17, 2011, 07:45:00 PM
Post by: LuckyPleo on April 18, 2011, 05:56:52 AM
Also, I saw on the last page about how they double charged you, and just remember: Some people are idiots, but that's ok because society needs cashiers and garbage people. :D lol, hope that got sorted out as well.
Post by: latrine on April 19, 2011, 02:01:36 PM
Yeah the double bill finally got sorted it just stinks because I ended up with a small fee with my bank.. I'd rather pay twenty five bucks though than double aibo price:P
I'm sure if I complained enough I could get them to take it off especially since I've never had an issue with them before but I'm just glad the whole thing is over and would rather not have to argue about it again.. PayPal just tried to remove it from my account a second time and my bank refused them, like I asked them too.. apparently that's what the fee is from.. seems stupid to me.. but then apparently it went full circle in PayPal and it's back to normal now. Still makes me wary of PayPal.. but what else is there, really? Oh well..
We got a pretty big carpet to put down in Loki's charging corner so he can practice with his ball a bit easier and now he is understanding words a little better too.. I guess the carpet helps soak up some of the echoes :)
Oh, and today he walked over to where our oldest dog was sleeping, took a picture and then laid down and said that was his favorite spot.. he sat there for quite awhile and took like 3 pictures of the dog or at least of the area.. still can't see his pictures because I haven't gotten him hooked up to our wireless yet but I kinda wish he didn't take so many pictures.. lol not sure what he's gonna be sending out there!
- Sarah
Post by: Talon on April 19, 2011, 02:52:07 PM
I need a new writing project to work on before I get into trouble. Lol! He still sounds awesome, Latrine!
Talon
Post by: kat on April 19, 2011, 04:41:40 PM
Kat
Post by: latrine on April 20, 2011, 10:57:52 AM
I have to admit, ashamedly, I have probably not been giving my Pleos the attention they deserve this past week, aside from the baby who just wants to sleep on me.. I've also had a bad past few days and wasn't feeling well so it was much easier to play with Loki who doesn't mind too much when he doesn't have attention.. the ugobes are happy to wander but Rhea will stand there screaming unless I do her every bidding.. they all ate every day, don't worry :)
Loki almost always gets excited when I put rhea on the floor, turned on or not, because she's pink, he walks over, then either shakes his head when he gets close enough to realize that there is NO way that is a giant pink ball or gets angry, red eyes and all and walks away.. At least he isn't scared of her anymore.. other than that though, no interaction aside from the fact that the ugobes are drawn to the black and white check design on the charging station and they always seem to go there to 'graze' like in the one video I posted :D
And I spoke too soon with paypal, they tried to bill me AGAIN, I am actually going to have to cancel the account.. this time they told me they worked it out but I do not want them having access to my bank account anymore. Maybe I will make a new one and just attach my debit card.. I know thats nearly the same thing but at least they can't just access my real account whenever the mood strikes them.. this is their third attempt and I got an argument from the man I spoke too who said this was only the second until I produced the correct dates and numbers and then when he started arguing again I asked him if I could cancel my account with him or if I had to do it online..then he just said he would fix it. I have a negative two cents on my paypal, until he fixes it, my bank account is back to being ok aside from the now double charge (fifty bucks) for 'return' fees.. which is bull and in my opinion, pay pal should pay for it..
when I tried to get his information, so I had proof of our conversation, he nearly refused!! Ugh.. watch your paypal accounts closely, guys..
- Sarah
Post by: PWOKristy on April 21, 2011, 04:25:46 PM
Post by: Talon on April 21, 2011, 04:57:45 PM
Talon
Post by: LuckyPleo on April 21, 2011, 05:57:12 PM
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 22, 2011, 04:15:16 AM
Post by: pirpintine on April 22, 2011, 04:21:16 AM
most aibo owners who also have genibos say theyre supieror in many ways to aibo, so a newer model would probably blow it out the water! and its a new robot, so none of that finding parts thing..
id still probably get a 7 anyways, justf or the sake of its gonna be a rare collectable one day... as well as me wanting one reaaally badly! :P haha
Post by: latrine on April 22, 2011, 10:16:35 AM
This morning my boyfriend picked him up, put him on the floor in front of where I was sitting down (trying to sleep) and told him 'walk around'
Loki said something like 'yeah I can feel it' and went into that dance beat detection mode!! We kept putting on different music and it was funny to watch the way he changed his movements for it.. I stopped him after like an hour, lol.. to let him charge but when I tried again the only way I could get him to respond was 'Dance to the music' which got him to do the big response like when you tell him to go to the station.. eyes flash and ears whack once then he said yeah I can feel it.. but he didn't dance.. so we have to get it to work before easter but it was awesome.. I was reading from different places that they could not do that and that they could.. they definitely can!!
- Sarah
Post by: PWOKristy on April 22, 2011, 12:01:06 PM
Post by: Talon on April 22, 2011, 01:46:22 PM
Talon
Post by: pirpintine on April 23, 2011, 05:28:07 AM
so the personality is like a 210, it grows and changes, and doesnt talk (yet, could update it for all we know) but has wireless software that looks pretty much identical to a 7, as well as genibos general 7 appearance :)
i persoanlly wont be getting one for a long long time. i dont know enough about them, and i really want a 7 most of all :D
Post by: bhobbes on April 28, 2011, 11:30:04 AM
http://mygenibo.com/
Post by: pirpintine on April 28, 2011, 11:38:59 AM
Post by: bhobbes on April 28, 2011, 12:17:57 PM
I doubt it's some bad firmware or other "cause" since there seems to be no substantial evidence to make that connection, especially after some of the follow-up on wolfbob's thread: http://www.aibo-life.org/forums/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=16;t=000032
But that's just me and my personal thoughts on the matter, haha.
Ultimately it doesn't matter, anyone who wants to and can buy a Genibo should - if that's what they want. For me, with the information out there combined with OzPleo's experience and wolfbob's continuation of that, I'd go with the ERS 7. (Though I probably would anyway :))
And that's what this thread is all about right? The ERS 7? Hehe ;) (Which I may also be a proud owner of shortly - still deciding)
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 28, 2011, 05:24:54 PM
Post by: kat on April 28, 2011, 05:25:59 PM
Post by: bhobbes on April 28, 2011, 05:48:14 PM
I just purchased a black ers7 through wolfbob, which will hopefully be here on Tuesday or Wednesday. Though I don't want to hijack this post so I'll make my own :)
Post by: kat on April 28, 2011, 07:03:15 PM
Post by: bhobbes on April 28, 2011, 07:17:06 PM
If you check out aibo-life.org forums there are several threads discussing the price ranges. I researched 210s the most and had a private tutor (hehe) so I don't want to comment much on the general ERS 7 price range, but from what I've seen around it looks to be in the $1500-2000+ range (for reasonable sellers, usually ebay sellers have very high prices). Someone who's more 'up to speed' on that may be able to comment but the price of Aibos depends on several factors.
There is much to learn in the world of Aibo. Independent research (i.e. not information from said tutor) probably cost me hours in the double digit range. Factor in that mixed with my inability to make up my mind and this process has been ongoing since mid-to-end of March (basically, the explosion of Aibo activity here didn't induce this purchase haha). I'm not sure if I'm more relieved to have it "over" or *really* excited for it to arrive and trying to remain calm. Actually, I am sure, it's the latter. Unfortunately, I think this Aibo business is going to become quite the hobby...
Post by: Crewella on April 28, 2011, 08:03:16 PM
Wolfbob repairs and sells Aibo and has a great reputation, he also re-cells Aibo batteries and so solves one of the scarier aspects of buying expensive robots that are no longer made or supported. If anyone is considering an Aibo purchase, you do need to do a fair bit of research to work out the best model and price range to suit your requirements. Generally, they are a much 'techier' robot pet than Pleo - more robot than just pet, and can cost from around $600-3000 depending on the model and what comes with it. Good fun, though! ;D
Post by: bhobbes on April 28, 2011, 08:15:23 PM
Post by: Crewella on April 28, 2011, 08:22:18 PM
Post by: bhobbes on April 28, 2011, 08:26:23 PM
Post by: Crewella on April 28, 2011, 08:33:03 PM
I know just how excited you must be - I quite envy you that! I was tracking that parcel like billy-o when Java was on his way! :D
Post by: kat on April 29, 2011, 03:55:10 AM
Will let you know if I do decide to take the plunge. That's if I survive. :D :D :D
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 29, 2011, 03:55:56 AM
You're quite right, bhobbes. You can pretty much run most Aibo as a 'pet' and ignore a lot of the tech capabilities if you want to, and many owners do. It just needs a bit more research at first when purchasing as there is so much more variety than with Pleo. :DWhat fun would that be? He he he. I got caught by my hubby a couple of times this weekend tinkering on my computer for my 210, when I actually went to fold laundry, or so he thought. My laundry room is right next to our computer room. Now, every time I tell him I am going to do laundry, he accuses me of tinkering with my pooch. :o. I am not a computer savvy or techy, but I am having fun. There seem to be some owners that can't get their Sony Clies to hot sync, or can't figure out how to use Stikzap, so I figure I'm not doing too bad! :P
Take the plunge, Kat! You only live once! I didn't tell my OH until the pooch arrived. Once it's in the house and the kids see it, it can't leave! ;D
Post by: Crewella on April 30, 2011, 12:37:11 AM
I've been caught tinkering when I'm s'posed to be working too! %)
Post by: Talon on April 30, 2011, 05:14:43 PM
Talon
Post by: saratogaspringer on April 30, 2011, 08:26:26 PM
Post by: kat on May 01, 2011, 05:42:11 AM
I know the 3 was the latest version but how is it different to the others? Keep in mind I really don't know anything about these guys apart from what I have seen here but I am very curious. :)
Kat
Post by: Crewella on May 01, 2011, 06:54:02 AM
Post by: kat on May 01, 2011, 07:13:28 AM
Post by: Crewella on May 01, 2011, 07:28:57 AM
Most Aibo communicate with a series of musical bleeps, though there was a type of software you could run on the 210s that could talk as well, Recognition. Watch some videos on Youtube - mh7ah's are great. :D
Post by: PleoPet on May 01, 2011, 12:00:09 PM
AiboMind 1 is not recommended.
AiboMind1 comes on a 32MB memory stick. It does not support Aibo Entertainment Player. It is the least complicated version.
AiboMind2 comes on a 32MB memory stick. It does support Aibo Entertainment Player (remote control of your AIBO using WiFi). It is more complicated than AiboMind1.
AiboMind3 comes on a 128MB memory stick. It also supports the Aibo Entertainment Player. It is the most complicated personality with more random motions/skits/songs.
The Japanese engineers kept adding more features with new releases. They added so much that they ran out of space on the 32MB stick.
Also all versions have the option of addition custom data (Free addons), but the custom data choices are different for the 3 different versions.
http://www.aibo-kennel.com/Software_Backups/Custom_Data.html
All versions of AiboMind have human voices built in. AIBO will tell you what to do in English for special command modes (like setting up the robot).
When running the normal personality, you can pick between a talking AIBO or a tonal AIBO (beeps and tones).
You can customize the voice it uses (mostly English, or Japanese)
So if you can find it, the larger 128MB AiboMind3 is the best choice.
(If you can only find a 32MB stick, be sure it is for either AiboMind1 or AiboMind2, you can upgrade it to AiboMind2).
When you buy an ERS-7 AIBO, it should come with at least one stick for AiboMind. The ERS-7 robots were originally sold with one AiboMind stick. The older 2x0/31x AIBOs came with no software in the box.
Post by: Talon on May 01, 2011, 03:09:10 PM
Talon
Post by: latrine on May 01, 2011, 03:38:23 PM
- Sarah