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Pleo Stuff => Pleo Archives => Archive -- Non-pleo => Topic started by: MannyNZ on December 25, 2010, 04:35:54 AM
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Hi,
I was wondering if there are some more animal like robots, which can be compared on the same level as Aibo and Pleo?
I mean, I've read about D-Rex, Crunsher, Gupi, and others listed here, but havent found any information if they are programmable or not.
The first impression though was, that they are not as interesting as Aibo and Pleo in terms of what they can do on their own and their
accessability for programmers.
So if anyone of you know of any more Animal-like robots in the same league as those two don't hesitate to write them down here ;)
thx
Manny
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I'm by no means a tech expert, but the only one I found that was anywhere near as interesting was the i-Cybie dog. A LOT cheaper, and to program it takes some hacking, but it was a neat design and the later models were able to self-charge on a walk-up station. Some interesting things were done with them, too:
http://cyberdoll.free.fr/cyberdoll/index_e_trophees.html
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I don't know that I'd put them in the same category as Pleo & Aibo, but Roboquads make good pets too ;D
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I recently won an I-cybie with walk up charger on eBay. I'll let you know when it arrives
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I agree 2NZ, Pleo and Aibo are in a league of their own. I guess the Genibo is the only real 'alternative', but I've had little experience of them.
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A Genibo would be great, but at 5 times the price of a Pleo it's not going to happen. :(
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Yay! Glad to hear it, Ozpleo, do! I'm still desperately seeking a Silverlit downloader to try and upgrade my original i-Cybie and to use the walk-up charger I got for him. %)
Nope - no Genibo likely here either! ^-^
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I've not had one before, but how autonomous is an i-cybie? I know it's not as smart as Pleo, but can you more or less leave it to it own devices?
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It's autonomous to a degree, but nowhere near as independent as a Pleo can be. Mind you, neither is an Aibo. I can leave the Pleos to potter about for ages, especially Iggy, but the Aibo gets sulky if you don't shake its paw when it offers it (or whatever) after a while. The i-Cybie gets depressed if you don't interact with it after a short time as it doesn't even have a ball to distract it. I still have a very soft spot for the i-Cybie, though. %)
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Yea I had an aibo once, it drove me nuts with it's constant need for attention lol. It's so called learning ability to me is very comparable to a PleoRB accept, as you say, a Pleo is far more independent.
I read somewhere that eventually an i-cybie will turn itself off if it's not interacted with after a very short time? The one I won two days ago on eBay has a walk up charger so if that being the case wouldn't it make the walk up charger redundant?
I already have a blue one (without walk up charger) but because the battery only lasts 5 minutes have never had the chance to play with it. I bought two new batteries from an English guy who makes them yesterday so I'm hoping my i-cybies will be worth it :)
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I've got one of his batteries, and his charger - they're a LOT better than the originals. Hope you're pleased with them.
I think I've read that too, but I've actually never left the i-Cybie running unattended longer than about 10 minutes (got irritated by the neediness! :P), and it did that alright, but it also depends on the room environment, I think. A bright room with room to roam will keep them happier and going for longer, and my guess is background noise like a loud TV will count as 'input', for a while at least, and keep them going? In my view, it's the voice recognition function that's the most fun with i-Cybies, and I like the fact that you can get them to run the 'show off' pre-programmed skits straight out of the box.
*Can you tell - the length of time it takes the RB to hatch is driving me nuts!* :P
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Thanks for that and yea it's driving me nuts as well ;)
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The hatching time seems to be different for all of them. Kermit was slower to hatch than Kermy with 8 full cycles before she walked and Kermy only5 full cycles. So a long time! :) It does get a bit frustrating after a while. Makes you want a second battery so you can just power through it. :) I'm sure there must be some rb's out there that wont take as long but who knows. I think Degers Beta took a while to hatch as well.
Hope this helps.
Kat
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Hi,
Mojo was walking in 3 cycles and today he's been roaring like an adult dino... he scared my dog Moses when he did it..LOL!
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Oh man, I never heard of Genibo and now I kind of want one! But at that price, an African Grey parrot is coming home first.
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Genibo looks quite limited at moment in terms of expression and what it can do i would compare the Genibo to be more in the category of the 210 Aibo,s and so for the price of Genibo right now , i think i will stick with my 210 and keep eye out for any future improvements on the Genibo .
i bought my son a new in box gold i-cybie for xmas it comes with the walk up charger and it works well ( has already self charged by himself ) . i also bought a new battery for the i-cybie from the guy selling them on ebay and works really well . Just want to add my son loves Dinosaurs also and loves our Pleo's and for Xmas i also got him Cruncher there is no programming for Cruncher it is just a really good fun toy for kids and even i find him entertaining . ;D
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Yay! Glad you did manage to get a Cruncher in the end, Gaz! :D
I do sort of agree about the Genibo - I'd like to see one operating, but up to now I can't see a reason to get one instead of a much cheaper rehomed Aibo either!
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yeah my thoughts exactly ! Although i have never owned a ers7 yet but hope to 1 day ;) as these seem to be the most advanced compared to any thing else .
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I didn’t realise I-Cibies where still around.
Remember a couple of us buying one for a friend who wanted something for company but lived in a pet free zone. .
That was a good 10 years ago now though so I’m guessing it must be a very old simplistic model. It was blue and it had a few voice commands.
I couldn’t interact with it too well though myself because a lot of the cues where too visual for me to work with.
Not sure about the Ibo but from what I’ve read about the Genibo I think this would also probably be the case.
All academic really though since I’ll proberbly never be able to afford one.
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I was tempted to buy an aibo but I can't justify spending so much money on something that no longer has any tech support or replacement parts. The 210s are riddled with physical issues like droopy head syndrome which renders them useless and none of the aibo models have replacement batteries available. How awful it would be to spend hundreds of dollars (or in the case of the 7 model thousands of dollars) only to be stuck with a non working object. I guess at least with Genibo being a currently manufactured product that's not something to be concerned about.
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i have never had any problems with my 210 and incase of the droopy head syndrome there is Aibo hospital still actively running in the uk so that would not be a problem for me ;D , + the 210 is the only robotic pet out there with so much software available for it currently at this time and you can also get them quite cheap on ebay now, and with the battery mine still runs for around 1 hour and half which does me just fine, and brand new batteries do pop up from time to time if incase i ever did need a new 1 which i wont for quite a while as i have a spare battery ;) + 210's look so much better in my opinion .
As with i-cybie being very old simplistic model ( they were for kids ) i am quite sure the sony Aibo were released before the i-cybie and yes Aibo is over 10 years old now from the earlier models but they are still the most advanced robotic pet out there to this day .
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The last model I-cybie was 2005.
Batteries for 210's are not actually new. They may not have been used, but would've been in storage since that model was last produced (which is quite a few years). It's a good thing the Aibo Hospital exists because the fact of the matter is unfortunately Sony released a very defective Aibo model onto the market which suffered from many debilitating mechanical issues and for the price, like I said, I'm not willing to risk hundreds of dollars on old, defective technology. The software available via eBay is still quite expensive these days. Thank goodness for other robots that don't depend on a memory card that no longer exists in order to be usuable.
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Agree with barrettgazzy. Apart from anything else, both Gaz and I went for the 210 Supercore, which is far less likely to get the infamous droopy head syndrome as they had fixed that problem by the time most of the Supercores were made. As for batteries, several Aibo owners are reporting success in getting their batteries repacked - some by Aibo specialists and some by local computer battery stores. That means you can now get a pretty workable Aibo ERS-210 for less than a new Pleo rb, and it's likely to be worth something still after you've owned it for a couple of years. Even if only for parts as other Aibo owners struggle to keep their pets going - because of the repacking even the duff batteries now have a value. ;)
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Hi folks,
first of all, thanks for the heap of replies :)
If I get it right, there is not really a comparable robot out there which plays in the same league as Pleo and Aibo.
Genibo and i-Cybie are same dog-like robots and therefore not as interesting for me, since there is already Aibo as a dog.
Another dionsaur would be interesting, though Cruncher and D-Rex aren't programmable as mentioned. Since im only interested
in the tech aspects of such a robots (e.g. whats able to do with that robot to suit one owns needs), they'r not an option as well.
Hmm difficult task, since i have quite some constraints ;) it has to be a animal-like, not dog-like, programmable autonomous robot ^^
So as i said, thanks a lot, and maybe someone kowns of a robot im looking for *hope*.
btw: those hexbugs are really funny, though they are to simplistic for my needs, but as such, they are cool
greetings
Manny
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How about something like the Roboquad - or is that not animal-like enough? The Wowee Robo- series must be about the next level down, as 2NZ said.
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How about something like the Roboquad - or is that not animal-like enough? The Wowee Robo- series must be about the next level down, as 2NZ said.
well not much animal-like, more futuristic as aibo is as well ( pleo is different due to his rubber skin ), but I'll spent some time to read whats possible to do with the Roboquad, and whats not, maybe it suits me needs.
thanks :)
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You're very welcome - come back and let us know how you get on! :D
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well I'm afraid it didnt take too long...
From what I was reading in the manual, programming is ment was putting some movements down to create a skit.
What i need for programming is, that there is a SDK (Software Development Kit) available which gains you as a programmer more oppertunity to do stuff with the
robot, like in the case of Pleo (PDK) and AIBO (SDK).
For my needs I'd like to have a robot with an available SDK, that opens up the access to the hardware itself. E.g. in Pleos case its possible to programm/script your own personalities, like those which can be downloaded on the homepage (x-mas, halloween, etc.). Same with Aibo, its possible to gain access to his senesors and motors for the legs etc and so create your own personality/behaviors.
Unfortunately the Roboquad didnt have such accessability, just 40 slots to programm predefined movements.
I know, my constraints are very limiting the choice of robots ^^ sorry for that.
greets
Manny
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I had a feeling that might be the case ................ in that case I'm afraid you might have to wait a few years! %)
If there IS another one out there similar to Aibo/Genibo and Pleo, I'd REALLY like to know about it! :P
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Yeah right now there is nothing available for us to buy >:( i am always Looking out for new robotic pets etc hehe
Innvo did say they where going to create other life forms so maybe they can create a meat eater dinosaur more on the scale of WowWee's Roboraptor now that would be of interest to me especially if they could improve on the movements and sensors etc etc ;D
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So far I have a robosapien, femisapien, roboquad, robopet, d-Rex, mio pup, roboraptor, roboreptile, furby,spykee, interactive R2D2 droid, Pleo and Pleo RB.
I wouldn't mind a Genibo and I'm looking for a joebot
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........... and a Silverlit i-Cybie and an Outrageous i-Cybie. ;)
Good grief, Ozpleo - I thought my collection was getting out of hand!!! :P
*Good for you!* ;D ;D
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That’s a pretty impressive collection I have to say.
aPart from pleo the only other I have is Furby. The rest all sound fun though. Except for the Femisapian that is. When ever I’ve seen that one in action That one just kind of disturbs me
If it’s OK to ask how many of them do you still interact with on a regular basis?
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most the robotic pets i have are for my sons entertainment and at same time i am entertained by them (the 210 Aibo is all mine tho :P) that is why i got my son the 2005 i-cybie with walk up charger . ;D but would love it if in near future there was a much more advanced roboraptor of some kind hehe and if it was as advanced in the way i have visioned that would have to be a annother toy for me :)
was just browsing ebay i typed in Aibo and a few other robots came up in search 1 was a robotic fish and then there was a humanoid type robot i will post the link below has any1 ever seen 1 of these ....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ZMP-Nuvo-rare-robot-like-Aibo-Nao-/120663507764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_186&hash=item1c181b0334#ht_1164wt_1128
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Wow - that's a seriously weird looking critter! And the price!! :o :o
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Very interesting though. I wonder if there are any videos of what it can do. I would love to see it in action. :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODxGUaEzhb8
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there are some vids on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODxGUaEzhb8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q27r3ETx0s&feature=related
Ha you beat me to it Crewella :P
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Only just, by the look of it! :P
I like the way it gets up, but won't be parting with £1,000 or so anytime soon! :P
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Very interesting but way too expensive. :o And not as cool as Pleo :)
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The vids where interesting but like Crewella I won’t be parting with £1000 either I don’t think.
Just out of interest what exactly does it look like?
I mean does it have a sort of stylised dog look like I-Cybie and Ibo? Or is it completely out the box?
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That’s a pretty impressive collection I have to say.
aPart from pleo the only other I have is Furby. The rest all sound fun though. Except for the Femisapian that is. When ever I’ve seen that one in action That one just kind of disturbs me
If it’s OK to ask how many of them do you still interact with on a regular basis?
I only interact with R2D2 as he's autonomous and responds to voice commands and my pleos of course. I'm looking forward to receiving my icybie with walk up charger though.
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Hmmmmmm ............... that makes r2d2 sound interesting, as I've not explored that one, and, Ozpleo, you seem to like a lot of the same things about autonomous 'bots that I do. :D
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So far I have a robosapien, femisapien, roboquad, robopet, d-Rex, mio pup, roboraptor, roboreptile, furby,spykee, interactive R2D2 droid, Pleo and Pleo RB.
I wouldn't mind a Genibo and I'm looking for a joebot
Do you like your interactive R2D2? I saw it and thought about buying one. Along with this fancy R2D2 trash can I found.
I generally only "collect" dark side/imperial items but R2D2 is an acceptable "good guy" haha.
(My home server and network printer are all nicely "decorated" with some of my Star Wars things)
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So far I have a robosapien, femisapien, roboquad, robopet, d-Rex, mio pup, roboraptor, roboreptile, furby,spykee, interactive R2D2 droid, Pleo and Pleo RB.
I wouldn't mind a Genibo and I'm looking for a joebot
Do you like your interactive R2D2? I saw it and thought about buying one. Along with this fancy R2D2 trash can I found.
I generally only "collect" dark side/imperial items but R2D2 is an acceptable "good guy" haha.
(My home server and network printer are all nicely "decorated" with some of my Star Wars things)
Yea the R2D2 is pretty cool actually.
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Hi,
Just found this page. It's not an animal-like robot, but still some pretty cool humanoid robot.
http://www.aldebaran-robotics.com/en/programmable
its called NAO and one is able to programm it in pyhton or c++.
For private people it's price is up to 10.000€ but there are also ways to get it cheaper. (e.g. when your in a roboCup-Team or ur joining
their research ...)
I thought, it might be interesting for you, if someone wins in the lotto, tell me :)
PS:I posted that reply in the wrong place before ... sorry for that.
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Absolutely agree - that's a very cool robot indeedy! ;D
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I am sure I have seen a youtube video of one of these Nao bots owning a pleo and taking it to another Nao bot for training. They taught the pleo to dance and I can't remember what else but it was quite a funny / sweet video. The Nao do look very cool if only I was rich........ :)
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Yeah does Look like a good robot and i did read they were going to release a cheaper model ;D i have been following Nao on youtube and such for while now , it did not look so sturdy on its feet the earlier video's but Looks like it is coming along nicely now just way too expensive tho lol
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Scoozie pets are autonomous but very silly i have one but it is broken,another one would be a mio pup its kind of like a aibo but just as advanced as a d-rex,there is also a robotic penguin called pango my sister has one its like a toy but at the same time it is not. ???
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I saw the genibo, it seems like that it isn't going to take off anytime soon, i checked the official website and it seemed the company was more focused twards its factory-job robots. I just wanted to point out there were some robots call robo-chi that were like the first robotic pets. They were poochies that were like robo dogs that sang and had eye shapes for emotions. There were also sub-catergories of poo-chi like meow-chi (cat), dino-chi (dino), petal-chi (flower), chirpy-chi (bird), Ect. I looked up the, on ebay and they are, like, really, really, really cheap. I don't really know what they can do, but I thought it was pretty cool that it is considered the first robo pet. They may look kinda lame, allthough if you look at them really really hard, you may be able to see the start of pleo deep deep in there...... not really. ;)
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Kind of. You saw glimmers of Pleo in the "Chi" line, I made an even bigger leap. I really wanted a giga-pet back in the daybut of course they didn't have any audio cues other than a beep and that wasn't enough for me considering my blindness. I had to wait a few years for the Furby to come out. Sure they're a little annoying but to me they were really neat. I have six of them. Two origionals, two Furby babies, and two 2005 Furbys. Later I wanted a Techno Dog but never managed to save up enough money. I've been watching Pleo with envy since two thousand seven and only recently have I had enough money to buy one- a purple-eyed RB with plenty of charm. Ryu is amazing and amazingly complex. Wouldn't trade him for the world.
Talon
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I still have my gaggle of Furbys, and I still find the 'emototronic' ones funny sometimes! I also always keep a Shelby in the car to put in a "bad mood' when I'm stuck in traffic - it really helps to have an electronic pet that's even grumpier than you are! :P
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Furby seems to drive me insane, just a pet peev of mine, but that's really funny how you leave it in the car Crewella (my first attemt spelling that without copying and pasting :))