Post by: degers on December 17, 2008, 10:33:56 AM
Post by: mweed on December 17, 2008, 02:37:11 PM
(http://BobThePleo.com/pleo/forums/bob_tail1.jpg) (http://BobThePleo.com/pleo/forums/bob_tail2.jpg)
Post by: wgb on December 17, 2008, 08:21:03 PM
Both mine are in very well shape right now. No cracks or anything. One will be a year old soon too, March.
Post by: mweed on December 17, 2008, 09:30:18 PM
Post by: Siren on December 18, 2008, 07:49:30 AM
Post by: allosaurus on December 20, 2008, 05:56:24 AM
No problems with skin degrading/decomposing, but Bob is coming unglued. Physically, not psychologically. The tip of his tail is coming off at the seam. No tears, no breakdown of skin, just glue no longer holding . . .
(http://BobThePleo.com/pleo/forums/bob_tail1.jpg) (http://BobThePleo.com/pleo/forums/bob_tail2.jpg)
Same thing with Olympia, just that it's where the neck skin is glued to the body skin. That part's coming unglued.
Post by: degers on December 20, 2008, 11:21:39 AM
Post by: Starfire on December 20, 2008, 08:31:14 PM
Post by: mweed on December 20, 2008, 10:50:00 PM
On Eekie, the neck seam is not glued properly and was half coming offf to begin with, also the skin has not been milled down properly and the seam is at two different levels, making it really obvious. A bit rubbish I must say.
I know on the parts I've seen, the overlap where two pieces of skin come together, the skin is beveled so that where the two layers are glued together, it is the same thickness as one layer.
Post by: fancyfont on December 20, 2008, 11:58:14 PM
Post by: degers on December 21, 2008, 03:54:54 AM
On Eekie, the neck seam is not glued properly and was half coming offf to begin with, also the skin has not been milled down properly and the seam is at two different levels, making it really obvious. A bit rubbish I must say.
I know on the parts I've seen, the overlap where two pieces of skin come together, the skin is beveled so that where the two layers are glued together, it is the same thickness as one layer.
Yeah, on Eeekie the skin hasnt been beveled on the neck piece at the bottom making it jut out, I'll take a picture when I am back at uni.
Post by: allosaurus on December 21, 2008, 12:21:34 PM
If Peeky's neck seam ever comes unglued I'll have a chance to see if I can fix the cable.
Ooohhh, pretty dangerous and ambitious there. :o
Post by: Kancora on December 27, 2008, 08:44:22 AM
Post by: degers on December 27, 2008, 08:54:52 AM
Post by: Starfire on December 27, 2008, 10:22:40 AM
Post by: fancyfont on December 27, 2008, 12:21:34 PM
Post by: mweed on December 27, 2008, 06:46:56 PM
Post by: fancyfont on December 27, 2008, 10:09:24 PM
Post by: 3dogsandaDuckie on December 28, 2008, 05:22:00 PM
Thanks everyone for all the tips!
Post by: wgb on December 28, 2008, 07:06:54 PM
Post by: mweed on December 28, 2008, 09:00:56 PM
Post by: Kancora on December 30, 2008, 03:13:44 PM
Post by: 49er on January 03, 2009, 09:36:07 AM
Post by: wgb on January 03, 2009, 10:12:45 AM
Post by: degers on January 05, 2009, 04:37:20 PM
http://pleoroom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=63#63
Quote
Ah my dear Kelvin, this is where Pleo is also unique. Initially we thought that the quality of the skin of Pleo was not that good because after some time the skin fades...that is until we truly found out from Ugobe that when Pleo was developed they actually wanted to create a skin texture that is so unique to not only make it feel as if it is so lifelike but they wanted the skin texture to be able to slightly fade to give the Pleo a sense of its aging process...seriously this is not a marketing excuse but it was really planned to have the skin colour slightly fade through time..it was on purpose. I guess it's like a baby's butt that is smooth when it is young but as we grow old (hmmm I better stop describing about it further...) :-[
I think this is complete bull**** but I would like to hear what anyone else thinks to this!
Post by: wgb on January 05, 2009, 06:37:52 PM
Post by: mweed on January 05, 2009, 07:24:27 PM
And what we do have from Ugobe about the fading (remember their picture of the three faded pleos?) sure doesn't make it sound like a design feature!
Post by: fancyfont on January 05, 2009, 08:12:35 PM
Post by: smasher on January 07, 2009, 01:13:27 PM
Post by: degers on January 07, 2009, 01:32:42 PM
Yeah, I'm sorry to say that the paint wears off real quick if you aint careful! Most of us have learned to live with it!
Post by: wgb on January 07, 2009, 01:38:45 PM
Post by: mweed on January 07, 2009, 01:53:06 PM
However, if the brown rubber is flaking/crumbling away (not just the green paint), you better call customer support!!!
Post by: taoworm23 on January 10, 2009, 07:15:35 PM
I used GIBBs brand penetrant on my PLEO over a year ago, and he shows NO wearmarks anywhere on him.
You can order GIBBs online. To apply it, just rub it into his skin evenly with your fingertips. It keeps his skin soft and protects his paint. ;)
Also if your Pleo becomes unglued anywhere use crazy glue to glue it back. It will NOT void the warranty because that is the same glue they use to adhere the skin together.
Above all else, never be afraid to void your warranty if it will make your Pleo better. (That goes for all electronics come to think of it.)
So many folks are a prisoner to the idea of a warranty... ::)
Post by: mweed on January 10, 2009, 07:29:57 PM
Sorry about that. But for many of us, like you, the 90 warranty has long since expired. ANd you're right, it wouldn't matter. But with the number of pleos reported in the forums as breaking early on and having to be returned, that warranty has been important to many owners. I know of at least one member on his 4th pleo, three returned under warranty. If he had voided the warranty, he would have been out a lot of money for a green doorstop.
But I really doubt that treating a pleo with Gibbs would void the warranty. ;) It actually enhances the value, even if you end up having to return it.
I just wish I could find a store that carried Gibbs . . .
Post by: June on January 11, 2009, 02:37:25 AM
I'm in Europe so we have a two year warranty, but at the moment that isn't helping much since the seller can't get info from the importer/manufacturer on how to proceed and the seller is out of stock so they can't replace Dino. They're probably going to offer to take him back and return my money (and I guess then I can look at buying another someplace else with a new warranty), but I don't want to risk being without a Pleo in case the few stores here that carry Pleo are out of stock. So I might just settle with keeping Dino and removing the skin when it gets really ugly... :o
Post by: 49er on January 11, 2009, 10:18:26 AM
Post by: fancyfont on January 11, 2009, 02:08:43 PM
I would sure like to learn more about Gibbs and whether it penatrates further past the rubber and what the effect might be on the inner body.
Post by: Lornex on January 11, 2009, 09:28:31 PM
If GIBBs actually protects his paint, then I'm definitely interested! :)
I don't really care if the skin is soft, especially since dinosaur skin is supposed to be rough anyway. It would be nice, though. ;D
Post by: 49er on January 12, 2009, 12:37:47 AM
Post by: mweed on January 12, 2009, 08:48:49 AM
Post by: Pleotonic on January 12, 2009, 11:20:17 AM
I have just read this post in the malaysia forum.
http://pleoroom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=63#63QuoteAh my dear Kelvin, this is where Pleo is also unique. Initially we thought that the quality of the skin of Pleo was not that good because after some time the skin fades...that is until we truly found out from Ugobe that when Pleo was developed they actually wanted to create a skin texture that is so unique to not only make it feel as if it is so lifelike but they wanted the skin texture to be able to slightly fade to give the Pleo a sense of its aging process...seriously this is not a marketing excuse but it was really planned to have the skin colour slightly fade through time..it was on purpose. I guess it's like a baby's butt that is smooth when it is young but as we grow old (hmmm I better stop describing about it further...) :-[
I think this is complete bull**** but I would like to hear what anyone else thinks to this!
hahah degers, i agree degers...but to be fair i think they did acknowledge that they were pretty new and the admin itself is still a newbie as mentioned in its reply to mweed's explanation. at least they ain't trying to defend their mistake or anything like that and did look up to mweed as the "grand master of Pleo"...no way someone can learn everything about pleo in such a short period of time as it was launched in that region only about a month ago, so i guess every newbie needs a helping hand...so let's spread the love of pleo...but honestly i do like the look of the site at http://www.pleoroom.com because many sites on pleo seems to be a direct rip-off in look from ugobe's site and i think bob the pleo and pleoroom are really one of the very few cool lookin sites for pleo.
Post by: Lornex on January 12, 2009, 07:24:49 PM
One of my pleo's toes is starting to loose it's paint! (only one)
When he goes to sleep and his head curves in to rest, it tends to rub the toe's paint, and now the paint's almost completely rubbed of that one toe! :(
Can anyone please help me fix this issue, because I don't want it to get any worse. (The only paint that's left is a tiny strip in the middle)
I may post a picture sometime, just to give anyone an idea.
Post by: grumpy on January 12, 2009, 07:52:59 PM
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj279/laceycindy/014.jpg)
Post by: Lornex on January 12, 2009, 09:12:44 PM
Do NOT use baby powder as it will dry out his skin quicker.
I used GIBBs brand penetrant on my PLEO over a year ago, and he shows NO wearmarks anywhere on him.
You can order GIBBs online. To apply it, just rub it into his skin evenly with your fingertips. It keeps his skin soft and protects his paint. ;)
Also if your Pleo becomes unglued anywhere use crazy glue to glue it back. It will NOT void the warranty because that is the same glue they use to adhere the skin together.
Above all else, never be afraid to void your warranty if it will make your Pleo better. (That goes for all electronics come to think of it.)
So many folks are a prisoner to the idea of a warranty... ::)
Taoworm23, when you say to apply it by rubbing it into his skin evenly with your fingertips, do you mean to spray a bit of the GIBBs onto your finger and then rub it in the Pleo's skin or do you mean to (gently) spray it on the Pleo's skin and then rub it?
Just making sure so I don't make any mistakes. ;D
Wow, there's sure a lot of really dangerous (and poisonous) chemicals in GIBBs! :o Has anyone tried GIBBs on their Pleo? ???
Also I found another GIBBs website www.getgibbs.com! Does anyone know which website is the official, www.getgibbs.com or www.gibbsbrand.net? Which one do you recommend?
Post by: grumpy on January 12, 2009, 10:14:52 PM
Post by: Lornex on January 13, 2009, 08:54:13 AM
Post by: holly on January 13, 2009, 09:55:06 AM
Post by: pleofixation on January 13, 2009, 11:35:35 AM
I had my Pleo for close to a year now. (I actually had two, the first one had to be returned - broken neck).
I applied GIBBS to my second pleo when it was brand new.
There are still signs of wear - the paint is pealing off still.
GIBBS doesn't help. There are two explanations to this. One is that those people who say GIBBS works, don't play with their pleos enough, or tap on them gently instead of petting, or treat them like museum property. The second explanation is that there is some smart GIBBS seller disguised as Pleo owner, who is advertising GIBBS on Pleo forums.
One thing is for sure - I have tried GIBBS starting with a new Pleo, and I have no motivation to lie about the results - it doesn't work.
GIBBS is harmful, for your kids' sake, don't apply it to their toys. Or for your own sake, if you care about your health.
Pleo ages, and that's not a big deal - when compared to an option of using CANCER-CAUSING chemicals. GIBBS doesn't help; and it's bad for you.
(If you feel like you must spend on something - perhaps to keep the economy going - buy another pleo, and don't play with it, but put it under the glass cover, and enjoy its pristine colors)
Post by: mweed on January 13, 2009, 01:29:05 PM
Post by: Lornex on January 13, 2009, 03:54:19 PM
Post by: fancyfont on January 16, 2009, 01:21:59 PM
This brings up another way that we can have fun with our pleos. I plan on dabbing some different acrylic paints on Peeky just to see what seems to look good. I know it has to be very flexible but paint can only flex so much before it pulls apart.
Don't be shocked if Peeky may soon have some new looks. ;)
Post by: mweed on January 16, 2009, 01:37:18 PM
Post by: fancyfont on January 16, 2009, 08:45:55 PM
Post by: wgb on January 16, 2009, 09:58:35 PM
Post by: Lornex on January 16, 2009, 11:50:53 PM
Post by: taoworm23 on January 17, 2009, 06:20:16 PM
I got to tell you that Gibbs is the way to go! I have had my Pleo for over a year and play with him EVERYDAY and pet him ALL THE TIME.
He shows absolutely NO SIGNS of paint flaking or wearing off.
To the person that said they used GIBBs and it did not work, all I can say is you didn't put in on right.
Let me explain.
In the early days of Pleoworld someone posted a method using GIBBs Brand penetrate because it seals and hydrates.
They originally said to aply it with a paper towel soaked in the stuff. Not true.
Spray just a bit on the skin at a time and rub it in liberally. Allow to dry after you have rubbed it in real good. (Just act like your rubbing suntan oil on your pleo.)
Your pleo will be dry at the end of the day and not feel tacky.
Repeat the same steps every couple of months from now and your pleo will never show any signs of degrading.
Gibbs seals in his rubber like material and protects his paint. It also rehydrates the rubber like material of pleos skin and prevents it from cracking.
If you leave your pleo out in the Arizona sun for two weeks the skin will crack and his skin will become brittle and literately fall apart.
The second Pleo with gibbs that was left out in the sun had no problems with the skin drying out or flaking.
I cannot understand disinformation about Pleo.
I can't believe there are those that put baby powder on there pleos. THIS WILL MAKE IT WORSE.
Baby powder will act as a fine abrasive and take the paint off of your pleo quicker!
The baby powder also drys out your pleo's skin. (Powder absorbs all moisture in his skin)
Comon people, use your brains! Why do you put baby powder on a baby butt?! (TO ABSORB MOISTURE, so you baby won't get diaper rash.)
Get some GIBBs, it safe, it works and you will be glad you did.
My Pleo's skin looks like I JUST bought it. And that was over a year ago.
But hey, what do I know right? I'm just taoworm23. (Google that screenname and see if I am just some idiot.)
Peace out guys. This is my last post here, just trying to help out...
Post by: grumpy on January 17, 2009, 10:28:32 PM
Don't know if it works, or if it doesn't.
But that is the point of these forums; to share our experiences and make suggestions as best we can.
I think both taoworm23 and pleofixation make some very good points.
Taoworm23 is right. The whole point is to seal the skin to help prevent wear and to keep the rubber/latex skin soft and supple. If it dries out it will crack. Baby powder is a desiccant and does dry out skin. But baby powder was also the recommendation from the manufacturer, it was not just someone else's suggestion. Of course, pleo's skin isn't moist or hydrated. Water is not the issue. In fact, GIBBS drives out the moisture. That's one of it's jobs! But latex and rubber don't need water to stay supple, they need oils, which is what GIBBS provides. So, logically, a product like GIBBS is ideally what you want to use.
But on the other hand, GIBBS does have a lot of really volatile compounds in it, any number of which might just as well eat away at the rubber skin. And as pleofixation said, there are a lot of hazardous chemicals involved that are not meant to be handled constantly. If you have small children playing with your pleo, you should consider that before using a product like GIBBS.
As to how well it works, I don't know. Out of 120,000 pleo sold, so far we only know of two people who have used GIBBS. One loves it, one said it doesn't do any good. Sounds to me like we don't have enough experience for a good answer one way or the other.
I would actually like to encourage more open discussion like this. And ask that people don't take things too personal. It is through these discussions that we all can learn and benefit. And sometimes things can get a little heated, as some people can be a little passionate about their views. Disagreement is good, as long as we stay away from personal attacks and accusations. Most things are not cut-and-dried, so we benefit from opposing viewpoints.
I would like to encourage pleofixation and taoworm23 to share more of their experiences with their pleos. I wish I knew more about each situation so as to better understand the pros and cons. Because even though fancyfont may be right, I'd rather not have to earn to love our pleos without paint.
Post by: Lornex on January 18, 2009, 07:39:00 PM
Post by: justbede on February 03, 2009, 10:51:31 AM
Post by: mweed on February 03, 2009, 12:25:57 PM
Post by: fancyfont on February 03, 2009, 04:22:18 PM
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on February 04, 2009, 09:39:28 PM
Post by: fancyfont on February 04, 2009, 11:46:13 PM
Post by: hmrbri on February 07, 2009, 11:39:16 PM
just a thought.......
Post by: fancyfont on February 07, 2009, 11:41:38 PM
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on February 08, 2009, 02:52:21 AM
Post by: PLEOGALINBC on February 19, 2009, 08:02:03 PM
Post by: pirpintine on February 22, 2009, 08:27:49 AM
he does have a bit of tearing to the tail, and a little under his legs, but nothing drastic.
heres the tail
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/pirpi/SP_A0101.jpg)
anything to do to stop it getting worse?
Post by: mdirch on February 22, 2009, 12:09:45 PM
I don't have any other suggestions I'm affraid :-\
Post by: InmemoryofRomeo on February 22, 2009, 03:24:08 PM
Post by: majorhavoc on April 20, 2009, 11:29:04 PM
With some difficulty, I was able to convince Ugobe to replace it.
I had to send it to them and they returned a new Pleo. (refurb I think).
FYI - that was about 3 months ago.
Post by: Junkroxy on April 26, 2009, 10:48:28 AM
Post by: Bumblebee on April 30, 2009, 10:33:58 AM
And about the pleo love contest-- Fancyfont would win no sweat! Peeky has lots of browny patches if I recall the last picture I saw of him. ::)
Post by: 49er on April 30, 2009, 03:08:01 PM
Post by: Junkroxy on April 30, 2009, 06:27:21 PM
Post by: fancyfont on April 30, 2009, 08:47:41 PM
Post by: fancyfont on May 01, 2009, 01:09:26 PM
I haven't had any problems with Macon and Yasmin. Macon was a year old on Christmas, and he's fine. He got a slight wear stripe on his back but other than that no skin problems. I don't have any t-shirts that fit so i'm surprised how well they've held up.I think he would win the best loved pleo contest ,too ;) :)
And about the pleo love contest-- Fancyfont would win no sweat! Peeky has lots of browny patches if I recall the last picture I saw of him. ::)