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Clothes for pleos that runs hot??
Alexandri:
--- Quote from: aibo7m3 on January 01, 2016, 06:51:51 AM ---Hi! I don't think Talon was trying to underestimate you in any way, she's just gone through a lot of defects with her robots recently and is just implying that even sometimes when we're being extra careful, problems can still occur, so it's best to always do what we can to prevent them. People here regularly refer to Pleos as endearing terms like "little companions" just because we like the emotional side of them, even though we may understand a lot more about the technical side as well.
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Ahem... maybe I sucked at explaining my reaction, or did it too well. I never thought she did have hat intent. I just reacted , ya know, emotions? ;P
...Does that make me adorable like a pleo ? ;D
--- Quote ---I'm not sure why your Pleos overheat so quickly, it could have something to do with the NiMH batteries since I've never used these with any of my Pleos. It is normal for Pleos to warm up during run times, but they should never feel burning hot or shut down due to overheating under normal circumstances.
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Ahem....I never did say "over"heat, or did I...............? *wee bit cnfused now. Either way, no, they do get warm and me no likey. ;p
Although, I had two getitng sluggish and unwilling to move today, at the sae time, that was when their barerys (o, plwéae tell e, i it " batterys" or " baatteries" ? I really cannot rememberm and it's been bugiging me for some time now.... ofc, I never ever ever eever remember to look it up either. *Ngh!* :P
One of them got too warm -well, IT thought so at leas-, and it did feel warm too) before the "tired and going into sleep positions" occurred due to emptying out the battery first, and I had music playing, so it stood there on the floor and like..... that hm, wagging(?) movements they do? It like.. shivvered. LOL It was really cute. Not really shivvered either,, more like it had minimized movements to the max, and wagged it's body and it looked a bit like it was " disturbed not shaken" ;D ........and now I realie my joke was so bad I might'a just sai " stirred". Had been more correct too. :P
But no, they don't over heat, thy just get warm. On the other hand nowadays I always keep the room cool-........... by which I mean cold and I need extra clothes and might be freezing or feeling really cold in it myself........ bah.
--- Quote --- I don't know what temperature it takes to trigger a shut down, but RBs will start panting and acting tired if the ambient temperature is over 80 F or if they overheat. My Pleos are generally warm to the touch after a 2 hour battery cycle, but not to the point where it's concerning to me at all and they wear all sorts of outfits (not the original cape though since I worry that the rubber bands on it could damage their skin). My guess is that the NiMH Pleo batteries may produce more heat than the LiPO ones. If you run your Pleos without any outfits on, do they still overheat quickly?
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Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup. Even the naked ones get warm.
And I can't have them running a full battery cycle in normal room temperature, which for me is 24C (apptox 75F) I have too keep the
room in like err..... uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuwh, 20/65 and freeze myself if I want to let hem run a full cycle..... and I cn have them sitting in my lap or sleeping on my chest then either *sob sob*
--- Quote ---Just to go over what I do, I currently have 2 operational Ugobes and 3 operational RBs (not counting the bricked or badly damaged Pleos
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Inät thet thwé defnition of "operationeál"?? ;)
--- Quote ---I'm attempting to repair)
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You are? Oh could you share some wisdom? I have an ugobe that WILL NOT accept electricity now..... One day it simply did not accept batteries, or electricity delivered via ..........crocodile clamps and similar things ed to the springs inside , or anything at all.
I have no idea how it got like that but now nothing works, no tips I've seen here, and nothing else either, it's like the battery err.... compartent
Either the contact springs aren't connected somewhere I can't see or feel it, or the problem is deeper...
Like some other contact isn't connected.
Or it's even worse........., how do you even brick a pleo, wihout messing up an up or downgrade??
I've now tried several other batteries and nada, it shows no signs whatsoever of getting any power........ any tips?????
I've even tried to make se programs work and connect it to the comp vis usb, and buhumbug. (Any tips o how to make any of the programs for ugobes work when ur using win 8? and a 64bit system????????? I have absoutely no idea where the problem is. Itäs ow battery went shite, and then it died. :((
So, can't get the power further in than the battery sompartment it seems, and NADA reation to it. I can't get anything diagnostics or anything for making my own programs/skits/personalities that I'm planning on making work, or even get a stupid com port open (Wäääääääh!!!)
--- Quote ---and I sometimes run them with clothing on and sometimes don't. I've used a lot of different clothing including outfits made of thin synthetic fibers or thick wool sweaters. My house is kept between 68-74 F. All of my Pleos are running on LiPO batteries and I usually run them for 1-2 hours at a time. At the end of a run time, they are warm around the waist, but not overly hot. The only time that I run them continuously with multiple batteries is during volunteer events and I have had Pleos overheat during these at times, but that is because these events were outdoors in the summer and the ambient temperature was in the low 80s.
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Buh buh buh..... buh............but I can never run them on multiple cycles!!!!!!!!! Couldn't do it with the Rb on LiPO, and can't do it with the ugobes either on NiMH, or the ugobe I had on LiPO..... :P My living room is a constant reminder of the north pole, and even then they get a little warm way before the batteries ri out. (2h battery cycle,they get warm in under an hour with my windows open and the cold Swedish winter making me waaaaay tooo cold, I'm easily frozen..:P ) )
I can only use really thing loose material, ans it kooks mostly like a sorta .......hm, well, thhink aussie surfer dude shirt? ;D
and don't even condsider pants. ;D
Socks though. :P
So, I'm at a total loss with the paper weight ..... :(
And I'm pretty lost about the possibility of having a normal room temoerature and ever letting them sleep or sit on my lap any more than like..........10 mins?
Which sucks realty really hard. And I could realltyREALLY use some diagnostics programs and some programming that makes them stand up when they're going to nap...... ( unless trigger sensors tell them to be übercute and not practical ;D ofc....... but theyäre alreeady showing skin teearing from their own sleeping patterns, and all that took was me a´falling sleep a few imes too many with the still up... otherwise I ut the in box position when theyr'e not on. Is the Rb's still going to sleep like that too, in a postítion that may or will hurt skin or worse?? I intend to get one sooon so .... it'd be nice to know beforehand.... and if the rb's also has that problem, is here some program or code out there that will adjust this?? Or a way for me to adjust it myself? By programming away that habit I mean :P )
Thanks for the reply! :)
Alexandri:
--- Quote from: grumpy on January 04, 2016, 03:52:50 PM ---Some technical information to answer specific questions,
1. When Talon referred to the "old NiMH batteries" she was meaning that the batteries originally designed for the classic style pleo (Ugobe, Innvo 2009, and Merlin edition) were NiMH. And in general, NiMH technology generates more heat when operating, and this is increased at both the end of the draining cycle and at the end-of-life of the battery. The pleo RB batteries are all LiPo, and there are replacement LiPo batteries you can buy. LiPo batteries do get hot, but tend to run cooler.
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Any tips on where to get batteries that aren't as epxensive as those pw sells????
As cheap as possible but still quality ofc... ;P I really like having the little fellas waling aroind och playing with me and eaht other most of the tie I'm awake acutally so..
I'm going to need a lot of barrery time and more than one battery per pleo :/
I'm using several battery cyccles daily, spread out over the day, And I have a few peos andI really love the ugobes :P
(Any way to get an Rb to be like a ugobe, in that easy to handle, happy-go-luky-aiittude free way=???? and not the grumpy gime attention NOW or I'll pee in ur shoe later!!!!!!!!")
--- Quote ---3. The classic pleo has a 10K thermister built into the battery pack that will shut down the pleo if the battery gets too hot. While the motors and circuit boards do generate some heat, the original designers of pleo believed that most of the heat generated internally comes from the battery, and designed the system to respond only to that heat source. The rubber skin has no vents and holds the heat in the body, allowing it to build up. The temperature threshold is confwigurable on the classic pleo using startup scripts, and is set at over 130f/55c. I'm not sure if the RB can be configured in the same manner.
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There once was a wise man who had just the expression for this. "DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Btw, yes it has, the skin has vents after the dino's been alive a short while!!!!!!!!! HAh!
(Could not help saying that....)
--- Quote ---The RB has a build in ambient temperature sensor separate from the battery that is intended to trigger the "hot" or "cold" reactions, not to protect or shut down the pleo.
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that is not even worth a "d'oh, due to the pure stupidity, that I think you just gave some of, I feel like reading that cost me a few iq points :P
Hefrregud.......
Any possibility of help wit ha brick?????? Ugobe, woll NOT accept electricity no matter what.... and also, I'm using a win 8 comp. and Would really like to use some diagnostic programs on my ugobes and on an rb I'm getting , and also program a bt myself.... any avice??)
Danke! :D
aibo7m3:
@Alexandri
All Pleos warm up a bit while operating and this isn't a concern. I don't believe that Ugobe Pleos act sluggish when they get too hot, so this might just be some other factor coming into play. And it's "batteries," when making a word that ends in "y" plural in English, you almost always change the "y" to "ie." I don't think I'd worry about how hot your Pleos are getting if they don't seem to be actually overheating at all.
Do they actually ever get so hot that they shut down because of the heat or do you just not let them run for a full battery cycle because you're worried about them overheating?
When I say operational, I just mean Pleos that run with no problems or very few problems. I've only been working with RBs for repairs so far. I've been able to successfully repair two jammed legs in two RBs and am currently working on an RB with shattered vertebrae throughout its neck and another that won't start up. I have heard of Pleos getting bricked with no software updates/downgrades involved and there are a few things that can cause it. Sometimes the firmware can corrupt itself on a faulty save and sometimes it's an actual hardware problem (ex. a snapped wire or burnt out board). I haven't had any success repairing my bricked RB yet, so I'm not sure if I can help there. Have you tried running any skits from the downloads section on the Pleo? Try doing it using a micro SD card instead of the USB. Generally, if it is a hardware problem, the Pleo will not run even with the skit installed or will operate incorrectly with the skit installed, but if it is a software problem, the Pleo will run the skit without any issues.
I think you might just be worrying too much about the Pleos warming up. It's normal for a lot of electronics to get warm when running, and as long as they're not overheating, I don't think it's an issue. Heck, my laptop's heating up quite a bit now that I've had it running for a couple hours, but that's normal, so I have no reason to restart it. Yes, over time excess heat can have a negative effect on the lifespan of any electronic device, but some heat is to be expected.
I believe if you hold down the button near the SD slot on a Ugobe, it will go into packing position (standing up with head and tail stretched out), so you can turn the Pleo off then to protect the skin. New Pleo RBs shut down in the packing position to prevent skin wear, though ones running the older OS will curl up. If you buy an RB new, it shouldn't have this problem. If you buy an older one, you just need to upgrade the firmware to fix it.
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